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BKIn118 How Does Diallo Look

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Bk, you have sat in on a couple of workouts. How coordinated/athletic does Diallo look. How is his touch around the rim. Does his body look ready???
Is he aggressive?
 
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Extremely athletic. Body is ready....kid has worked hard to transform himself.

Offense is a work in progress, but he's not lost. He is strong around the rim...will be instant impact on the boards. His hands aren't made of stone, but not soft as a pillow either.

In the small sampling I've seen this summer, I can't say Diallo stood out though. That's not necessarily a bad thing...and I'm not worried at all about it. People who've seen him far more than I rave about his game.
 
Extremely athletic. Body is ready....kid has worked hard to transform himself.

Offense is a work in progress, but he's not lost. He is strong around the rim...will be instant impact on the boards. His hands aren't made of stone, but not soft as a pillow either.

In the small sampling I've seen this summer, I can't say Diallo stood out though. That's not necessarily a bad thing...and I'm not worried at all about it. People who've seen him far more than I rave about his game.
I think the kid will be key piece this year. Lewis is solid in what he does. Freeman has expectations. I think Doorsman needs minutes this year to developed a bit more.
If Diallo can defend consistently and rebound I think he will get important minutes. We will see.
 
Extremely athletic. Body is ready....kid has worked hard to transform himself.

Offense is a work in progress, but he's not lost. He is strong around the rim...will be instant impact on the boards. His hands aren't made of stone, but not soft as a pillow either.

In the small sampling I've seen this summer, I can't say Diallo stood out though. That's not necessarily a bad thing...and I'm not worried at all about it. People who've seen him far more than I rave about his game.

Great to have "informed opinions" about Diallo based on first hand knowledge, rather than people basing their opinions on how many D5 offers he had.
 
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Great to have "informed opinions" about Diallo based on first hand knowledge, rather than people basing their opinions on how many D5 offers did he have.

BK....I hate to be that guy to keep asking questions..........BUT, how has Goode looked as a shooter ?? He is only a freshmen, so there is time for his development to continue.
 
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I don't mind the questions brother...

Anyway, as a straight up shooter...Goode is friggin lights out, I mean automatic (at least in practice). Last time I saw him in the gym, he was tossing up shots from the R in center court from the edges...not flinging them, shooting. This was after a vigorous full squad workout in a sweltering gym. Let's just say that range isn't his problem, as he was making them pretty routinely, even in a state of exhaustion.

Justin needs to get stronger and improve his lateral movement to get more minutes than a specialist. His defense is a little lacking, but he is willing. He may struggle to matchup with more physical players. His role, at least initially, will be heat check guy off the bench. 5-8 minutes a game depending his effectiveness. He is skilled enough to become a more complete player over time...that I'm confident of.

And as a disclaimer...my comments on the program and its players are only MY opinions, and are based on impressions I've gathered from what I've seen with my own eyes (which are always a bit Scarlet colored). Place as much or as little stock in them as you see fit.
 
How is Foreman progressing? Is he getting better around the rim? I love his quick first step and think it can create mismatch problems, but he drove me nuts with his inability to finish. Thanks
 
Foreman has really taken a step up, especially in games during the end of the season as his minutes increased. He finished much stronger (and improved his FT shooting drastically)...that trend has continued into the offseason.

Confidence will be important for Foreman. He needs to improve his all around offensive game and get stronger, but I think he has the potential to be very good here.
 
I don't mind the questions brother...

Anyway, as a straight up shooter...Goode is friggin lights out, I mean automatic (at least in practice). Last time I saw him in the gym, he was tossing up shots from the R in center court from the edges...not flinging them, shooting. This was after a vigorous full squad workout in a sweltering gym. Let's just say that range isn't his problem, as he was making them pretty routinely, even in a state of exhaustion.

Justin needs to get stronger and improve his lateral movement to get more minutes than a specialist. His defense is a little lacking, but he is willing. He may struggle to matchup with more physical players. His role, at least initially, will be heat check guy off the bench. 5-8 minutes a game depending his effectiveness. He is skilled enough to become a more complete player over time...that I'm confident of.

And as a disclaimer...my comments on the program and its players are only MY opinions, and are based on impressions I've gathered from what I've seen with my own eyes (which are always a bit Scarlet colored). Place as much or as little stock in them as you see fit.

Thanks again....I love shooters that have the potential to spread the floor.

There's a reason Jordan said he was one best shooters he saw in HS and I still remember the Myles Mack comments, relayed through Jordan, that he really wanted Goode to play last year to spread the court.

Spot up shooters don't have to be the most athletic, just wait for a true PG to dribble penetrate and when help comes over....just wait for the pass to hit the open 3 pointer.
 
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Foreman has the highest ceiling of the returning players on the roster that played last year. Kid needs to learn how to use his big athletic frame

When he does...he will blossom
 
RecLots of good stuff. With eriu leaving, all i would hope for is diallo to grab a few rebounds a game and back lewis up. This season thats all id want to see
 
Like Bk said, Goode will give players a breather. If he can give 4-6 points off the bench with a three or jumper in six-eight minutes, he is a huge piece to this team. The competition of this league loves to jump, and it seems like doing more of that while doing gym work would greatly benefit him.

Can we neutralize his lateral speed by running a three guard set and keeping him against a slower small forward and slide Laurent to the two at times? A three guard offense might help him take on a slower player. Definitely needs to hit the livi dining hall. I can offer suggestions.

On the offensive side, if the team can set screens for him and the 4-5s work to help create shots for him, he will be a huge asset for this team. When you see good teams, you see a long stat sheet. It doesn't drop off after the first five. If goode can be a 8th man and chip in 5-6 points, that's huge. All while improving that athleticism.

As for foreman, a lot of games last year he was a inch away from scoring 8 pts a game. His potential is huge as long as he eats. Lefty that can drive right and we saw him do that a lot last year. He basketball is an inch away from him scoring 8+ for us this year. What will effect him is his size and capability to guard his spot. Has the athleticism, needs a dining hall.

Lots to come with this team. I like what I am hearing from BK.
 
I think Foreman's size is fine. Could he use a little more size? sure. But that is not his biggest issue. He just has to gain confidence and stick the jumper. His motor is non stop. He will be a solid big ten player for us and I think it will happen this year.
 
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Good to hear about Diallo and Goode. I really expect them to be the 10 and 11 players in the rotation, so if they can contribute at all , that would be really helpful.

With experience and seasoning, I do expect a little more in future years, especially from Diallo
 
Like Bk said, Goode will give players a breather. If he can give 4-6 points off the bench with a three or jumper in six-eight minutes, he is a huge piece to this team. The competition of this league loves to jump, and it seems like doing more of that while doing gym work would greatly benefit him.

Can we neutralize his lateral speed by running a three guard set and keeping him against a slower small forward and slide Laurent to the two at times? A three guard offense might help him take on a slower player. Definitely needs to hit the livi dining hall. I can offer suggestions.

On the offensive side, if the team can set screens for him and the 4-5s work to help create shots for him, he will be a huge asset for this team. When you see good teams, you see a long stat sheet. It doesn't drop off after the first five. If goode can be a 8th man and chip in 5-6 points, that's huge. All while improving that athleticism.

As for foreman, a lot of games last year he was a inch away from scoring 8 pts a game. His potential is huge as long as he eats. Lefty that can drive right and we saw him do that a lot last year. He basketball is an inch away from him scoring 8+ for us this year. What will effect him is his size and capability to guard his spot. Has the athleticism, needs a dining hall.

Lots to come with this team. I like what I am hearing from BK.

You make some great points. If Goode can shoot in games like he does in practice then the staff needs to find a way to give him a role. To be fair that is the job of any coaching staff, to get the most out of the players and maximize strengths while minimizing weaknesses. A shooter can absolutely have an impact on games. It sounds like this team will have some pieces. It's going to be interesting and hopefully fun watching them fit together.
 
Good to hear about Diallo and Goode. I really expect them to be the 10 and 11 players in the rotation, so if they can contribute at all , that would be really helpful.

With experience and seasoning, I do expect a little more in future years, especially from Diallo

I think we will see him develop into a pretty decent player here. That redshirt year last year was good for him. Now he's got four years to do his thing. I think in the end he is a solid 8 and 8 type of player for us. With all the players that have length on this team(Laurent, Diallo,Foreman, Lewis) I just want to see a lot of hands straight up.

Diallo might be quicker off the bench than we think. I think he get 10-15 minutes mid way through the season.
 
You make some great points. If Goode can shoot in games like he does in practice then the staff needs to find a way to give him a role. To be fair that is the job of any coaching staff, to get the most out of the players and maximize strengths while minimizing weaknesses. A shooter can absolutely have an impact on games. It sounds like this team will have some pieces. It's going to be interesting and hopefully fun watching them fit together.

Definitely. I am more hopeful this team will fit together quicker than SHU last year because of our coaching staff versus theres. Not that I am one to compare, but just a thought. I like the positive attitude of Sanders, and he is a different type of player than whitehead. Just a more fun, selfless player.

Solid point about the maximizing strength and minimizing weakness. If goode can take part in a double in a corner/ corner backcourt, he can minimize his weaknesses a little bit. As we stated though, it's going to be important to have a team that comes after Sanders, Williams, Laurent/foreman(or other three guard), Freeman and Lewis. The backup has to be there and chip in some points while other players rest. It has to be a productive bench, and as young as we are, I think you will see production from it.

Ej is assembling a team here. I am excited to watch it pan out. Ups and downs, with more peaks than valleys.
 
Foreman has the highest ceiling of the returning players on the roster that played last year. Kid needs to learn how to use his big athletic frame

When he does...he will blossom

Shack, I thought DJ used his frame very effectively for a frosh. Not saying he cant be even better...just that he exceeded my expecations in that dept

where he 'fell down' was finishing. the # of times he turned an easy layup into a circus shot was mind-numbing.

I am chalking it up to age and inexperience

if he improves even marginally in this area, his #s will be considerably better

I have high hopes for this kid...he can be a good one for us.
 
I'm not sure where the Foreman needs to gain a lot of weight came from, he is not rail thin. He just needs to get stronger...just like all players, but, he is not a bean pole. He is listed at 6'8, 230 as a true freshmen. Not bad size for a forward. He does not need to be 250 and bulky.

As a comparison, Nigel Hill of Wisconsin is listed at 6'8, 235.

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I'm not the only one talking about Diallo getting more minutes than Lewis.

I think Lewis will be a surprise. Look for a lot of mid range jumpers. A shot he was hesitant to take but Jordan wanted him to take because he said he was a pretty good shooter. I also heard that Lewis slimmed down and will be less bulky.

Rutgers will have 15 fouls at the center position. When was the time we had that kind of depth? No more playing off guys to avoid foul trouble. Co-centers, Shaq is the banger, Lewis is the guy that can step out and hit the mid-range shot and Diallo is long, athletic shot blocker. Jordan will have options based on opponent and situation
 
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I think you see more centers jacking threes than hitting 10 ft jumpers. It's not an easy shot to get off space-wise, and centers shouldn't typically be drifting 10-12 ft away from the basket, except for when they're setting a pick or working hi-lo post. I've gotten the stink eye from plenty of guards when I've drifted into their driving lanes. So often you hear someone say, if he could just hit the mid range jumper, he'd be in the NBA. No he wouldn't. Except for guards, that shot barely exists in the NBA or CBB. You'd have to have Pistol Pete style catch and release to get that shot off on a regular basis playing with your back to the basket. Worse yet would be looking for Lewis (or any college center) to take three dribbles to get to open space.

What Lewis can do, we've already seen. He can do it a little better, but I don't see him becoming a totally different player. Uconn had a big man that did it a few years back, but its rare as hen's teeth.
 
I think you see more centers jacking threes than hitting 10 ft jumpers. It's not an easy shot to get off space-wise, and centers shouldn't typically be drifting 10-12 ft away from the basket, except for when they're setting a pick or working hi-lo post. I've gotten the stink eye from plenty of guards when I've drifted into their driving lanes. So often you hear someone say, if he could just hit the mid range jumper, he'd be in the NBA. No he wouldn't. Except for guards, that shot barely exists in the NBA or CBB. You'd have to have Pistol Pete style catch and release to get that shot off on a regular basis playing with your back to the basket. Worse yet would be looking for Lewis (or any college center) to take three dribbles to get to open space.

What Lewis can do, we've already seen. He can do it a little better, but I don't see him becoming a totally different player. Uconn had a big man that did it a few years back, but its rare as hen's teeth.

By the end of this year I think Lewis will be an 8 and 6 player. Anything over would be great for Greg. I hope he proves us wrong again.
 
I think Lewis will be a surprise. Look for a lot of mid range jumpers. A shot he was hesitant to take but Jordan wanted him to take because he said he was a pretty good shooter. I also heard that Lewis slimmed down and will be less bulky.

Rutgers will have 15 fouls at the center position. When was the time we had that kind of depth? No more playing off guys to avoid foul trouble. Co-centers, Shaq is the banger, Lewis is the guy that can step out and hit the mid-range shot and Diallo is long, athletic shot blocker. Jordan will have options based on opponent and situation

Like the post. Options at the five.
 
I think you see more centers jacking threes than hitting 10 ft jumpers. It's not an easy shot to get off space-wise, and centers shouldn't typically be drifting 10-12 ft away from the basket, except for when they're setting a pick or working hi-lo post. I've gotten the stink eye from plenty of guards when I've drifted into their driving lanes. So often you hear someone say, if he could just hit the mid range jumper, he'd be in the NBA. No he wouldn't. Except for guards, that shot barely exists in the NBA or CBB. You'd have to have Pistol Pete style catch and release to get that shot off on a regular basis playing with your back to the basket. Worse yet would be looking for Lewis (or any college center) to take three dribbles to get to open space.

What Lewis can do, we've already seen. He can do it a little better, but I don't see him becoming a totally different player. Uconn had a big man that did it a few years back, but its rare as hen's teeth.

Good-Knight....This is how they get the mid-range shot off.

1. They go out, set a pick and if their man backs off to help they get the pass to hit the open mid-range shot. OR,

2. They move out into space, the opposing center backs off because they are protecting the lane, that leaves a guy open for a shot. (SEE JORDAN QUOTE #2 BELOW).

Centers don't just "drift into" a guards driving lane, they move around based on the play called and the offense being run. If you listened to Jordan, he specifically said, he wants Lewis to take the open mid-range shot. I think Jordan knows a thing or two about offenses.

JORDAN QUOTES:

It's his first full year where he's 100 percent healthy. His body is right, we're going to move him to a perimeter 5-man (center)."

"He still likes to be in the post," he told us, "He can do some of that, too. But I want him to step out and put the strain on the defense with his ability to make shots."

I am not sure how you assumed anyone was advocating that Lewis move out to the foul line area, beat his man off the dribble to take a mid-range shot. That's ridiculous.
 
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I'm not sure where the Foreman needs to gain a lot of weight came from, he is not rail thin. He just needs to get stronger...just like all players, but, he is not a bean pole. He is listed at 6'8, 230 as a true freshmen. Not bad size for a forward. He does not need to be 250 and bulky.

As a comparison, Nigel Hill of Wisconsin is listed at 6'8, 235.

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Then gain five pounds. I just don't want to see this team outsized at any position because thaat is something we can control. Height,sure-no. But weight and size- make sure Sanders is 175 and not 160.
 
Then gain five pounds. I just don't want to see this team outsized at any position because thaat is something we can control. Height,sure-no. But weight and size- make sure Sanders is 175 and not 160.

Higgs....I agree, he needs to get stronger and few pounds would probably help.
 
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