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So Saban admits that it is not fair that one conference can do things that others can't. Does that include cheating like sh*t in virtually any way to get some of their kids to play?
I usually respect your opinion but I call BS on this. The SEC is way worse cheating wise than any other conference.
Whomever was on ESPN radio this morning was so far up the SEC asses it was ridiculous. Does upper management tell them to spout SEC all the time or do they just hire pro SEC talk show hosts? He was trying to say how the BIG will never be considered a top conference until they go 10-12 teams deep like the SEC is. Someone did call in who was pro BIG and shot down most of his arguments but he still didn't get it. He basically said the BIG was all OSU and MSU and there are no other good to great teams, but that every team in the SEC west was a good to great team along with at least 4 from the other division.
Give it a rest for God's sake! The SEC does not cheat any worse than any other conference as a whole
Why wouldnt they?
ESPN is in the business of making money. Even if that means lying about how good your product is. Everyone at ESPN is a robot spewing what management tells them to say. Turn off the machine dude.Whomever was on ESPN radio this morning was so far up the SEC asses it was ridiculous. Does upper management tell them to spout SEC all the time or do they just hire pro SEC talk show hosts? He was trying to say how the BIG will never be considered a top conference until they go 10-12 teams deep like the SEC is. Someone did call in who was pro BIG and shot down most of his arguments but he still didn't get it. He basically said the BIG was all OSU and MSU and there are no other good to great teams, but that every team in the SEC west was a good to great team along with at least 4 from the other division.
Disagree...as it "seems" SEC Boosters are much more open in regards to the $$$ they offer players and/or their handlers.
In Mid 1990's, Bama Boosters offered tens of thousands of $$ for a key recruit
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2001-09-07-alabama.htm
Then a few years later, the infamous case of Bama Booster offering up to $200,000 to secure lineman Albert Means from a Memphis HS.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58965-2005Feb2.html
Then you had the recent bidding war between Miss St offering Cam Newton's Dad $180,000...yet Auburn obviously offered a better deal in the end.
As some know, many of the SEC Booster $$$ go through local historical black churches were many of these players parents and/or handlers have connections to...thus making it virtually untraceable (heck, not even taxable).
Knight Light -- Southern Gentleman isn't disputing that the SEC cheats. He'd have to be in denial to not admit that. His argument is that the SEC doesn't cheat more than other conferences.
So sick of the SEC BS. Half the conference is ranked at the beginning of the season. So when everyone looks at the schedule it looks so tough. Then an unranked SEC team beats a ranked SEC team... So the unranked team now becomes ranked. A&M was garbage last year, but was ranked at the start of year. And even when they lose, they get the benefit of the doubt. The top five SEC west teams all lost their bowl game and they looked so inferior in all of them. It was enjoyable.
Look, the Big12 and the ACC cheat their asses's off too, but the SEC is just better at it. SEC also does it a lot more, it is just part of the culture and it is not seen as a big deal by their fans and the local media that covers them. Ironically Southern Gentleman is a fan of Arkansas, which happens to be one of the cleanest schools in the conference which is why he is more sensitive about this topic. Sorry but the rest of the conference is shady as hell.
Ok. No problem. Show me the proof that you have.
Ironically Southern Gentleman is a fan of Arkansas, which happens to be one of the cleanest schools in the conference which is why he is more sensitive about this topic. Sorry but the rest of the conference is shady as hell.
Sounds like you don't know much about Arkansas...as they just had a 15 year run for NCAA Violations, including repeat offender status.
http://arkansasnews.com/sections/razorbacks/arkansas-out-under-ncaa-cloud-first-time-1997.html
NOTE: Has RU every had 15 TOTAL years in their history being sanctioned by the NCAA in any/all sports?
The only way to avoid becoming a regional brand (or rather, to step up from it - because really all CFB is regional) is to create a national league that plays alot of cross over games and where the quality of a team on the West Coast impacts the fortunes of one in Florida. The playoffs are getting there - but at 65 teams the P5 (oh excuse me - A5) is still far too big for that. Needs to whittle down to about 32 teams.A saw a friend of mine is in sports media programming and he said there is a deep concern about SEC ratings (money) should there be a drop in "perceived" lack of quality. So, they work hard to avoid a "perceived" lack of quality. There was a loud *gasp* when the B1G took in Rutgers and Maryland and they are monitoring (i.e. concerned) about potential PAC-12 developments. They are afraid of becoming a regional brand and not a national Brand (see NASCAR's drop in popularity/revenues).
A saw a friend of mine is in sports media programming and he said there is a deep concern about SEC ratings (money) should there be a drop in "perceived" lack of quality.
That being said, I agree with Pinkel's whine. Any program that wants to be P5 must be in a conference and any conference must play a title game.
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That article was from 2012.
It's good to see they finally kicked Florida out of the preseason top 25. They were brutal ever since the UL loss, but somehow always got ranked. The other thing about the SEC teams that the "surprise" teams or teams expected to take the next step. are somehow always ranked (ie Arky and Tenn)
I thought the "#HillbillyCropCircles" thing was really funny and am deeply wounded that it wasn't fully appreciated. :(
Sounds like you don't know much about Arkansas...as they just had a 15 year run for NCAA Violations, including repeat offender status.
http://arkansasnews.com/sections/razorbacks/arkansas-out-under-ncaa-cloud-first-time-1997.html
NOTE: Has RU every had 15 TOTAL years in their history being sanctioned by the NCAA in any/all sports?
ESPN is in the business of making money. Even if that means lying about how good your product is. Everyone at ESPN is a robot spewing what management tells them to say. Turn off the machine dude.
The SEC was exposed badly in the bowls the last two years. They are fraud and everyone else in the country knows it.
Arkansas should not be preseason top 25. There. I like Arkansas, but they should not be ranked. Georgia at 13 is a joke. LSU is overrated too
Whomever was on ESPN radio this morning was so far up the SEC asses it was ridiculous. Does upper management tell them to spout SEC all the time or do they just hire pro SEC talk show hosts? He was trying to say how the BIG will never be considered a top conference until they go 10-12 teams deep like the SEC is. Someone did call in who was pro BIG and shot down most of his arguments but he still didn't get it. He basically said the BIG was all OSU and MSU and there are no other good to great teams, but that every team in the SEC west was a good to great team along with at least 4 from the other division.