I know I'm getting old(Livingston 73) but I was scratching my head trying to remember it being called that. Thanks.
Ohio State Game Income-Rutgers Stadium or The Meadowlands ?
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Wow , do not remember that, '74-'78. Not saying you are incorrect but I just remember the the football stadium not even Rutgers Stadium.
It has never been called Busch Stadium. It was Rutgers when we had wood bleachers, it was Rutgers when it was redone and it was Rutgers when it was expanded now called high point solutions stadium. Busch campus wasn't even called Busch until 1974 or 75. Before that it was university heights.
As to the topic of this thread, all hone games on campus. You lose atmosphere going to a pro stadium.
As to the topic of this thread, all hone games on campus. You lose atmosphere going to a pro stadium.
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There is zero reason for Rutgers to play Ohio State at MetLife Stadium. The purpose of high dynamic prcing for the OSU game is to encourage local football fans to buy season tickets. You move the game to the Meadowlands and you lose that incentive.
Contrary to what some here think, Rutgers is more interested in building its fanbase through season tickets than chasing a transient single-game dollar.
Contrary to what some here think, Rutgers is more interested in building its fanbase through season tickets than chasing a transient single-game dollar.
Wowwee. Wow. Wow. Wow. Sorry for the disturbance. Having lived together on Busch Campus for three of my years at RU, that's the designation our group used when referring to the stadium. I realize it's official NAME was Rutgers Stadium, as did the rest of the gang. Still, we CALLED it Busch Stadium. Believe it or not. Rest easy folks. We also "called" the College Ave Gymnasium "The Barn." And I call Taylor Ham "pork roll." Sheesh....
If memory serves, I believe the B1G announced before the inaugural season that Rutgers Stadium would host all the other members the first time around. After that, I don't believe there was a commitment to anything.
And yes, up until it became High Point Solutions Stadium, officially, it was always Rutgers Stadium on the Busch Campus. And yes, before it was Busch Campus it was University Heights Campus and before that it was River Road Campus.
And yes, up until it became High Point Solutions Stadium, officially, it was always Rutgers Stadium on the Busch Campus. And yes, before it was Busch Campus it was University Heights Campus and before that it was River Road Campus.
The Big Ten doesn't care where we play our home games. That is up to Rutgers. There is zero chance the conference tells Rutgers that it has to play home games in a different stadium, because it doesn't matter to the conference.
College avenue was the Barn. But no such thing as Busch stadium. I used to sell programs before games. Never referred to as Busch stadium.
Wouldn't it be more lucrative for RU if it is was a neutral site game as the revenues would be split 50/50? Unless there is some rule about neutral site games having to replace a home game that I don't know about?
I would love to play Syracuse, UConn, UMass, Delaware, Lehigh or any other of our lesser regional peers in a NEUTRAL site or ROAD game at MetLife lol.
In all seriousness, once in a blue moon for a big payout is fine by me, but only if it makes good financial sense and based on what people are figuring above I'm not sure it would really be enough.
At the initial press conference Tim Pernetti made it seem as if this had been discussed and that RU had expressed a willingness to play at MetLife every once in a while. That made it seem like the Big Ten had brought it up (Because why would Rutgers?). However, if you look at the recent comments from big ten folks they seem to have underestimated how great a venue we have for both in person and TV atmosphere.
Rutgers vs. Maine at MetLife. Make it happen! The Knights vs. the Black Bears! Real men hunt with sword and lance.
That's the mistake some make when they say moving a home game to Metlife/Giants stadium back in the day is that they only look at one game revenue...and completely ignore season tix sales/booster donations, many times BECAUSE the biggest game of the year is played on-campus.
Keep moving the biggest game of the year to Metlife and watch season tix sales/donations fall.
"Keep moving the biggest game of the year to Metlife and watch season tix sales/donations fall."
No one is really suggesting this though. I think everyone pretty much agrees that it should be a once in forever kind of thing and only for the right price. The opinions seem to run from "I don't like it but I could deal with it once every few years" to "Over my cold, dead, corpse." That's about as unified as this board gets lol.
No one is really suggesting this though. I think everyone pretty much agrees that it should be a once in forever kind of thing and only for the right price. The opinions seem to run from "I don't like it but I could deal with it once every few years" to "Over my cold, dead, corpse." That's about as unified as this board gets lol.
And in the previous sentence, I noted that while one game revenue could be higher, season tix sales (and donations for that year) would still suffer if fans know well in advance that the biggest game of the year won't be played on-campus.
Biggest games of the year/season are HUGE SEASON TIX DRIVERS and without them on campus, sales/donations will drop.
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This could have been a casual lie of sorts......the big 10 is aware of MetLife, nearer still to NYC, and we answer we are open to it when being interviewed to join...... I would suspect we would not be so willing when asked from this point on.
The bigger the game is, the more we need it at home, certainly in league
My understanding of why the game is at M&T Bank Stadium is because when Maryland was still in the ACC there was an agreement for them to play Virginia Tech at M&T. After the move to the B1G they were still obligated by contract to play a game there and opted for the PSU game which will likely be a sellout.
I personally prefer seeing college football games being played on campus since that's what really makes the atmosphere great. Students, alumni, etc. Those games at Jerry World are nothing but a money grab by Jones.
I know the B1G has some limits on how often a given school can move conference games off campus. Years ago the PSU game at Indiana was moved to the RCA Dome which at least was in the same state. More recently the Indiana home game against PSU was moved to FedEx Field. IU was in a tight budget spot and welcomed the $3 million+ payday from Dan Snyder. It was a great opportunity for PSU fans to make a short drive to an away game but I still didn't like the concept.
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That's exactly right, NittPicker. Maryland often plays a game a year in Baltimore (it's actually not as much of a "stunt" as some in this thread believe; there are a lot of off-campus games in NCAA football, including conference games).
The Ravens asked for this particular game to replace the Virginia Tech game from last year.
As to the general point, I agree that on-campus games are preferable, but money often talks.
http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2013/06/03/maryland-penn-state-mt-bank-stadium.html
The Ravens asked for this particular game to replace the Virginia Tech game from last year.
As to the general point, I agree that on-campus games are preferable, but money often talks.
http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2013/06/03/maryland-penn-state-mt-bank-stadium.html
That was three years ago...the dynamics are changing....
It could happen...but "it would have to be a really big check".
A MORE likely option....is that we play a NEUTRAL site game at the Meadowlands against a major out of conference opponent on a one and done situation. Think like the old Kickoff Classic (but not an extra game).....or the Chick fila classic. Labor Day weekend when people can travel.
It could happen...but "it would have to be a really big check".
A MORE likely option....is that we play a NEUTRAL site game at the Meadowlands against a major out of conference opponent on a one and done situation. Think like the old Kickoff Classic (but not an extra game).....or the Chick fila classic. Labor Day weekend when people can travel.
+1. Things have changed.
Unless RUTGERS is getting this.... $
I doubt it will ever happen again.
And for those of you who dream of a bigger Rutgers Stadium, you do not want this to happen.
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That's unlikely nowadays. We played Army as a home game at the new Meadowlands Stadium in 2010, but only because they offered us a significant amount of money that was more than we would clear on a home game in 2010. With the amount we bring in now for a home game, I don't think they could match that to lure us up there. Plus we'd never take a neutral site game there over a home game.
this was for the perfect storm conditions i.e. Rutgers and PoSU are both undefeated at the end of the season and we are to play each other in late Nov.
I'm thinking RU will not schedule any games off campus while they're trying to raise money for facilities improvement. Will just give opponents ammunition being able to say "why spend money, just play off campus"
I think you could make a case that selling say 70,000 tickets at Giants Stadium shows more reason to expand than selling 55,000 tickets at Rutgers Stadium. It puts the excess demand on display in a way that selling out for a higher price does not.
Knight_Light is right that if we had just one big game a year, that it might cause season ticket sales to crash. So we would likely have to do it in the right year. Say a year when we had both Michigan and PSU at home, in which us and Michigan were expected to be good and we are considering expanding (because the point is to visibly show that there is plenty up demand that will show up for big games in a bigger stadium.)
Move the Michigan game to MetLife. Get extra money. See how big the crowd could get. Still sell plenty of season tickets becuase of PSU.
There is a simple solution to this. If people start writing the checks, there's no reason to play off campus. the only reason to consider offcampus is money.
right now, we are averaging about $350-$400 in donations per season ticket, when what we need is $1,000 a season ticket to fund facilities improvements.
facilities aren't going to fund themselves. we need a funding strategy and playing a game off campus can be part of that, if people are unable to donate enough.
Filling MetLife off campus will provide a solid business case for why Rutgers Stadium should be expanded on campus for the same reason, money. this of course, assumes that Rutgers continues to improve and make progress. You're not going to see any games offcampus in the next few years. But OSU 2017 could be a candidate.
right now, we are averaging about $350-$400 in donations per season ticket, when what we need is $1,000 a season ticket to fund facilities improvements.
facilities aren't going to fund themselves. we need a funding strategy and playing a game off campus can be part of that, if people are unable to donate enough.
Filling MetLife off campus will provide a solid business case for why Rutgers Stadium should be expanded on campus for the same reason, money. this of course, assumes that Rutgers continues to improve and make progress. You're not going to see any games offcampus in the next few years. But OSU 2017 could be a candidate.
Don't mind a game at Metlife (especially if its a marquee OOC), it helps to grow the brand.
Do mind a game at Yankees Stadium (it's not a place to watch football).
edit. It's also why I'm glad that we have that home and home scheduled with Temple, it's great for the fans in South Jersey.
Do mind a game at Yankees Stadium (it's not a place to watch football).
edit. It's also why I'm glad that we have that home and home scheduled with Temple, it's great for the fans in South Jersey.
If we could have made money on MetLife games over the last 2 or 3 years, it would have happened. Otherwise, it won't. Given the bind the Athletic Department is in, they would have taken the revenue over the last few years if it made sense to do so.
When we were only drawing 25K on campus, Mulcahy said that one game against PSU or ND at the Meadowlands would have brought in more than the other games on campus combined. Now that's not the case -- or we'd be playing there.
When we were only drawing 25K on campus, Mulcahy said that one game against PSU or ND at the Meadowlands would have brought in more than the other games on campus combined. Now that's not the case -- or we'd be playing there.
Im not sure about that. I think it was very important from a PR perspective to show how rowdy our stadium could been, even if it meant leaving some money on the table. I mean we played Army at the Meadowlands just a few years ago - surely if that were a money maker, then Michigan or PSU would be.
After the bath they took in the army game, the jets/giants won't feel compelled to offer unless there is a very solid business case. Opponents like Nebraska, OSU, and PSU would fit the bill.
Before the game (or at halftime), when Eric can walk again, he goes to the spot where he was injured and rises.....
If expanding the seating of the stadium is a priority, you have to prove it is necessary. The only thing that will do that is filling the existing seats game after game and having a long waiting list for season tickets. Farming any home games outside will just delay if not destroy this.
Keep in mind that the Giants/Jets basically own the stadium. If a game was to be played there they would pay Rutgers a flat fee and keep all revenue for themselves. They would also give their season ticket holders a shot at the best seats. I wonder how much they made for the 2010 Army game - I believe they paid us what we would make on campus, maybe more and that was not a well attended game. Had they made money they might have found a way to get us back there.
I say - all home games on campus!
I say - all home games on campus!
After sitting on the goal line for the Army game in 2010 I made a promise never again or I will certainly give up my tickets ...If I live another 10-15 years maybe I'll feel different...but I remember many of our long time ticket holders being pissed off at our seat locations...It wasn't even close ...
Home advantage is more then neutralized at Metlife. Unless RU has a waiting list, any higher ticket sales are disproportionately to away team fans, and you are likely to lose the cheering density of a packed house with people spread out. When a waiting list gets re-established, an occasional OCC game there might make sense, especially if it helps us get better opponents without spending a fortune.
Personally, I can't wait to this years home games in Piscataway. The schedule is unbelievable. Unfortunately I just got my kids travel schedule and I may miss a couple day games.
Personally, I can't wait to this years home games in Piscataway. The schedule is unbelievable. Unfortunately I just got my kids travel schedule and I may miss a couple day games.
