3/2 BACATOLOGY: NCAA TOURNAMENT ANALYSIS
- Thread starter bac2therac
- Start date
I considered that ...I just thought that if we did get to 18-10...that’s 24-11 in a normal season with cupcakes added...and while it might be a 5...having three wins against NCAA 1 seed in scanairo (Illinois Twice and Michigan) might give us a slight bump
full body of work, they won the Big East and geez it was only their 5th loss today and it was with an injured player
A conference tourney run from an underdog can really help a team's seeding, but traditionally, I don't remember teams getting punished much for tourney losses.
true, tourney performance is not a big mover for seeds as one would think, its just one or two games on a resume, its more important for teams needing to get into the tourament
LSU got a big road win over Missouri. LSU is a 8 and stay that way so that wasnt a good results as far as trying to move up in seeds
Wow USC stuns UCLA with corner 3 with 1.4 left..they had not led all game.
Great result for RU because it keeps UCLA from moving up in seedings. In fact I think UCLA is teetering if they dont win one Pac 12 tourney game
Great result for RU because it keeps UCLA from moving up in seedings. In fact I think UCLA is teetering if they dont win one Pac 12 tourney game
If no upsets except for our run
0-1 14-11 Q1 4-8 Q2 5-3 Q3 3-0 Q4 2-0 9-10 seed
I would have to believe our opponent is Indiana or MSU is a Q2 on neutral court
The rest of the next 3 opponents should be Q1s
1-1 15-11 Q1 4-9 Q2 6-2 Q3 3-0 8-9 seed
2-1 16-11 Q1 5-9 Q2 6-2 Q3 3-0 7-8 seed
3-1 17-11 Q1 6-9 Q2 6-2 Q3 3-0 6-7 seed
4-0 18-10 Q1 7-8 Q2 6-2 Q3 3-0 5-6 seed
Would be my best guestimate, and depending on what others do and other RU B1G wins Or losses don't change any.
0-1 14-11 Q1 4-8 Q2 5-3 Q3 3-0 Q4 2-0 9-10 seed
I would have to believe our opponent is Indiana or MSU is a Q2 on neutral court
The rest of the next 3 opponents should be Q1s
1-1 15-11 Q1 4-9 Q2 6-2 Q3 3-0 8-9 seed
2-1 16-11 Q1 5-9 Q2 6-2 Q3 3-0 7-8 seed
3-1 17-11 Q1 6-9 Q2 6-2 Q3 3-0 6-7 seed
4-0 18-10 Q1 7-8 Q2 6-2 Q3 3-0 5-6 seed
Would be my best guestimate, and depending on what others do and other RU B1G wins Or losses don't change any.
Louisville loses at home to Virginia. Its not a great profile and it would be hard for them to miss but they should win a ACC tourney game to be safe
I don't think our resume is getting enough credit.
Combined Q1/Q2 9-10. Zero Q3/Q4 losses. Best win #1 seed Illinois. Toughest conf in the country. Most other schools mentioned by many analysts around 8/9/10 in other conferences can't compare.
Really we should be very comparable to Wisconsin.
They are also combined Q1/Q2 9-10. Zero Q3/Q4 losses. Their best win? Us or Maryland? Expecting them to lose tomorrow vs Iowa.
Don't get why they're considered like a solid 6 and we could be a 10?
wisconsin is headed downward, I have seen 7s for them too, if they dont win again which is possibly given a possible matchup with Penn State, they fall to an 8/9 game
Exactly. If we had 2-3 more random OOC cupcake wins on our resume we would be looked at a lot differently. It makes no sense.
Seton Hall on life support, need to make the Big East title game
Im not sure why bracketologists have been so high on them and so slow to drop them
Their resume is trash. Big deal they beat Uconn and Xavier but filled with losses to mediocrity from the Big East
I think they need to win the Big East tourney to go
St Johns though in the running now
Their resume is trash. Big deal they beat Uconn and Xavier but filled with losses to mediocrity from the Big East
I think they need to win the Big East tourney to go
St Johns though in the running now
Curious ...Since ESPN kept saying the same thing
Suppose Illinois lost to us in the quarterfinal of the big ten tourney
And Iowa wins the big ten tourney
Could scanario (with Iowa getting additional quality wins) get Iowa the 1 seed over Illinois
Don’t think so...but it would be close
Even with a loss to Marquette I'd still have Xavier above St. John's. That Oklahoma win helps a lot. And they didn't lose to Butler and DePaul.
Different world now but thinking back to our BE days:
Syracuse 2006: going into the BET they were 7-9 BE, 19-11 overall, I know NET wasn't a thing then but they were ~3-9 Q1. They won 4 "Q1" games in the BET and got a 5 seed. RU's resume would be unequivocally better than this.
UConn 2011: going into the BET they were 9-9 BE, 21-9 overall, ~8-9 Q1. They won 4 "Q1" games in the BET and got a 3 seed.
I think if we won the BTT we'd get a 3 seed. That would likely include wins over Illinois, Iowa, and Michigan, 18-10 overall, 7-8 Q1, 13-10 Q1/Q2.
0-1 => 10 seed
1-1 => 9 seed
2-1 => 7 seed
3-1 => 6 seed
4-0 => 3 seed
IMO
(Assuming opponents are Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan)
A Rutgers team that runs off 4 wins including two more over #1 seeds and a #2 seed has the resume for a #3 seed.
Rutgers / Kansas
18-10 / 21-9
Q1 7-8 / 8-9
Q2 6-2 / 3-0
Q3 3-0 / 4-0
Q4 2-0 / 5-0
Wins over Illinois x2, Iowa, Michigan / Win over Baylor
Don't get me wrong I give Kansas the edge there but not by much.
18-10 / 21-9
Q1 7-8 / 8-9
Q2 6-2 / 3-0
Q3 3-0 / 4-0
Q4 2-0 / 5-0
Wins over Illinois x2, Iowa, Michigan / Win over Baylor
Don't get me wrong I give Kansas the edge there but not by much.
Nothing to do with it being a tournament. If we won those four straight and they were regular season games it would be the same thing. The games don't become LESS important because they're tournament games.
I mean I agree it isn't happening.
Vcu over Davidson advances to A10 championship vs St Bonnies. Both appear very solid at this point
Marquette ready to defeat Xavier. Honestly because of the weakness of the bubble not sure who gets projected in that last spot now. Xavier? Syracuse? Utah State? Mississippi?
With a loss tomorrow Michigan State WILL remain in the field
Marquette ready to defeat Xavier. Honestly because of the weakness of the bubble not sure who gets projected in that last spot now. Xavier? Syracuse? Utah State? Mississippi?
With a loss tomorrow Michigan State WILL remain in the field
Remember things are played in a vacuum. Houston winning AAC tourney keeps them a 3. Arkansas has come on strong and may deserve a 3..what if they win SEC. Nova effected by injuries but can they hang onto a 3. FSU in line for a 3 for winning AAC reg season?
Of course, it's not like I'm saying that if Rutgers were to win the BTT they definitely, 100% get a three seed. I'm just saying that if things played out largely as expected and we did have that miracle stretch we would have a comparable resume to the current projected three seeds.
Who would you replace them with
These bubbles beat no one
Msu beat Illinois and Ohio state
MSU definitely has an edge over basically all bubbles in terms of quality wins, but 14-13 (8-12) is just such a mediocre overall record. I would not expect them to get in over all of these schools out there with mediocre resumes but just simply more wins, i.e. even a team like Syracuse or Colorado St.
I mean they basically have all the same problems Rutgers would've had if we lost out except an even worse conference record and worse NET ranking.
I mean they basically have all the same problems Rutgers would've had if we lost out except an even worse conference record and worse NET ranking.
Latest posts
-
***Ask The Experts Presented by American Financial Network’s Greg Ginn***
- Latest: ScarletKnight81
-
-
-