4-2 in our next 6 puts our WAB in the Greene

[Greene Rice FIG]

A B1G B1G ask, but in 3+ weeks maybe we can be bac on track.

For those who are impatient 3-0 puts us a hair away.

Yes WAB is just one metric and Yes right now there are more positive WAB teams than at large spots, but still.....


Worth noting we may be underdog in every game the rest of the day except for our last on March 9th

 

[rtabachk]

Really need to go 5-1 and not 4-2. We need 9-10 wins out of our last 13 to have any shot given our losses to date. 19 or 20 wins in total.

 

[Scangg]

Win the next 3. That's really only 1 big time win at the Garden in a home-ish game

We NEED high-end signature wins. We don't have one yet. It's a must

PSU and NW are not great teams. Teams we really should beat based on pre season expectations

 

[RUisB1Gtime]

Win at MSG and it's on.....

 

[RU89]

Win at MSG and it's on.....

Only if you beat PSU on the road

 

[RUisB1Gtime]

Only if you beat PSU on the road

We will...

 

[bac2therac]

A B1G B1G ask, but in 3+ weeks maybe we can be bac on track.

For those who are impatient 3-0 puts us a hair away.

Yes WAB is just one metric and Yes right now there are more positive WAB teams than at large spots, but still.....


Worth noting we may be underdog in every game the rest of the day except for our last on March 9th

well then that blows your argument up...right now we are 82 in WAB a 20 plus jump from last week.

going 4-2 may not be good enough...i see 3 almost sure losses at Oregon, at Michigan, at Purdue coming later. Its likely we need to go 5-1 the next 6.

 

[bac2therac]

Win the next 3. That's really only 1 big time win at the Garden in a home-ish game

We NEED high-end signature wins. We don't have one yet. It's a must

PSU and NW are not great teams. Teams we really should beat based on pre season expectations

yup...to stay in consideration we really need 2 of next 3...yes preferable all 3 but 2 keeps is a heartbeat.....i would take a win at Penn State for a win over Michigan State...need that signature win as you said and then 2 more shots at signature wins at home vs Illinois and Michigan

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

well then that blows your argument up...right now we are 82 in WAB a 20 plus jump from last week.

going 4-2 may not be good enough...i see 3 almost sure losses at Oregon, at Michigan, at Purdue coming later. Its likely we need to go 5-1 the next 6.

4-2 on it's own puts us on the wrong side of the bubble.....but it puts us in a position to actually see the bubble.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

The bottom line is our 5th loss makes us need to win B1G. 4 more losses is asking for help. 3 more losses and we are in.

 

[bac2therac]

4-2 on it's own puts us on the wrong side of the bubble.....but it puts us in a position to actually see the bubble.

yes agree with that...to me to serious consider us on the bubble..i need to see next 2 as wins...then we are rockin n roll baaaaaaaaaaaabeeeee

 

[soundcrib]

We're 2 wins into our 10 game win streak. No problem.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

yes agree with that...to me to serious consider us on the bubble..i need to see next 2 as wins...then we are rockin n roll baaaaaaaaaaaabeeeee

and then Dylan hits the wall and we lose 3 straight.......sorry couldn't help myself

 

[whofrewdatmataRU13]

Win out

 

[fluoxetine]

Win out

Guaranteed national championship if we do this, seems like a good strategy

 

[bac2therac]

and then Dylan hits the wall and we lose 3 straight.......sorry couldn't help myself

just go bac2 last year when we beat maryland, wisky and someone else and at 13-10 we were on our way and then lost 7 of 8

 

[mjjoyce51]

just go bac2 last year when we beat maryland, wisky and someone else and at 13-10 we were on our way and then lost 7 of 8

I knew there were similarities, but after taking a look they are eerily similar.

Last Year

• 10-10 after losing by 15 to Penn State at home.
• 3-7 in their last 10 after that loss
• Then in comes our savior Jerimiah Williams and they win road games against Michigan and Maryland (Who both were bad last year), Crush #11 Wisconsin by 22 at home (I believe Mag's last game), and beat Northwestern by 3 at home to go 14-10.
• Lose 6 of their last 7

This Year

• 8-8 after losing by 18 to Purdue at home.
• 3-7 in their last 10 after that loss
• (Hypothetical if they win their next two games) Then comes our savior Dylan Grant and they win road games against Nebraska and Penn State, #12 Michigan State at MSG, and UCLA at home to go 12-8.
• TBD

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

just go bac2 last year when we beat maryland, wisky and someone else and at 13-10 we were on our way and then lost 7 of 8

My main concern back then was we wouldn't have the NIL $ to keep jWill!

 

[fluoxetine]

I knew there were similarities, but after taking a look they are eerily similar.

Last Year

• 10-10 after losing by 15 to Penn State at home.
• 3-7 in their last 10 after that loss
• Then in comes our savior Jerimiah Williams and they win road games against Michigan and Maryland (Who both were bad last year), Crush #11 Wisconsin by 22 at home (I believe Mag's last game), and beat Northwestern by 3 at home to go 14-10.
• Lose 6 of their last 7

This Year

• 8-8 after losing by 18 to Purdue at home.
• 3-7 in their last 10 after that loss
• (Hypothetical if they win their next two games) Then comes our savior Dylan Grant and they win road games against Nebraska and Penn State, #12 Michigan State at MSG, and UCLA at home to go 12-8.
• TBD

Meh our savior this year is Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey growing into some of his potential.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Why is at Oregon a game that's out of reach if UCLA just won at Oregon back in December and Illinois went to Oregon.and won 109-77?

Purdue on the road is tough, but we are scarred by watching 8 turnovers in the 1st 10 minutes at the RAC and Dylan Harper at 50%.

Michigan on the road or at home is tough, but I personally don't think anyone in the B1G is better than Texas A&M or Alabama, but if you want to throw in the towel, go for it......

 

[mjjoyce51]

Meh our savior this year is Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey growing into some of his potential.

Yeah but I needed a closer comparison to fit the narrative I made up.

 

[RUJMM78]

The bottom line is our 5th loss makes us need to win B1G. 4 more losses is asking for help. 3 more losses and we are in.

It just shows every game matters and losing early leaves very little margin for error.The games remaining home and away are against some of the top teams in the B1G Ten.Slow starts in games puts Rutgers in panic mode after five minutes.In the UCLA and Nebraska games Rutgers came back and won the games with strong second halves.There is no assurance such good fortune will continue.

 

[PhillyRU]

I knew there were similarities, but after taking a look they are eerily similar.

Last Year

• 10-10 after losing by 15 to Penn State at home.
• 3-7 in their last 10 after that loss
• Then in comes our savior Jerimiah Williams and they win road games against Michigan and Maryland (Who both were bad last year), Crush #11 Wisconsin by 22 at home (I believe Mag's last game), and beat Northwestern by 3 at home to go 14-10.
• Lose 6 of their last 7

This Year

• 8-8 after losing by 18 to Purdue at home.
• 3-7 in their last 10 after that loss
• (Hypothetical if they win their next two games) Then comes our savior Dylan Grant and they win road games against Nebraska and Penn State, #12 Michigan State at MSG, and UCLA at home to go 12-8.
• TBD

I mean @Nebraska is probably more impressive than any of those wins, considering that Wisconsin had lost three straight before us and 8 of 11 to end the season, plus Northwestern had already lost Berry by that point

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Yeah but I needed a closer comparison to fit the narrative I made up.

Better than saying Martini 2.0, which theoretically could be said!!

 

[RUGiddy777]

Focus on Monday. Let’s get back to .500 in conference.

 

[fluoxetine]

The bottom line is our 5th loss makes us need to win B1G. 4 more losses is asking for help. 3 more losses and we are in.

If we finish 8-5 we would have a positive WAB.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

If we finish 8-5 we would have a positive WAB.

actually somewhere between +.5 and +1.0

Mon 1-20	A	56 (I)	Penn St.	+7.8, 85-77	25%	0.6
Sat 1-25	H	14 (I)	Michigan St.	+7.1, 80-73	26%	0.59
Wed 1-29	A	58 (I)	Northwestern	+6.5, 74-68	26%	0.59
Sat 2-01	H	10 (I-A)	Michigan	+8.8, 84-76	22%	0.64
Wed 2-05	H	4 (I-A)	Illinois	+11.7, 86-74	16%	0.73
Sun 2-09	A	18 (I-A)	Maryland	+14.2, 86-71	11%	0.8
Wed 2-12	H	39 (Ⅱ)	Iowa	+1.9, 86-84	44%	0.39
Sun 2-16	A	25 (I-A)	Oregon	+12.5, 84-72	14%	0.76
Wed 2-19	A	111 (Ⅱ)	Washington	+1.0, 76-75	46%	0.37
Sun 2-23	H	45 (Ⅱ)	USC	+0.6, 76-75	48%	0.35
Thu 2-27	A	10 (I-A)	Michigan	+17.1, 89-72	8%	0.85
Tue 3-04	A	12 (I-A)	Purdue	+15.1, 83-68	9%	0.83
Sun 3-09	H	105 (Ⅲ)	Minnesota	-5.6, 72-66	72%	0.16
						7.66​

 

[robjknight]

Win the next 3. That's really only 1 big time win at the Garden in a home-ish game

We NEED high-end signature wins. We don't have one yet. It's a must

PSU and NW are not great teams. Teams we really should beat based on pre season expectations

It really would have been better at the RAC than the Garden.

 

[RUforester72]

Why is at Oregon a game that's out of reach if UCLA just won at Oregon back in December and Illinois went to Oregon.and won 109-77?

Purdue on the road is tough, but we are scarred by watching 8 turnovers in the 1st 10 minutes at the RAC and Dylan Harper at 50%.

Michigan on the road or at home is tough, but I personally don't think anyone in the B1G is better than Texas A&M or Alabama, but if you want to throw in the towel, go for it......

Agree UO is winnable.

 

[socaldave]

Really need to go 5-1 and not 4-2. We need 9-10 wins out of our last 13 to have any shot given our losses to date. 19 or 20 wins in total.

The right 9 wins puts RU in
Tall task like at least 6’10” tall 😉

 

[GRU23]

In reality any game is winnable, any game is losable. It’s a possibility we somehow win at Michigan and Purdue and blow it against Minnesota to end the season. Ultimately I think 4-2 is the minimum level we will have yo perform to unless if they give a ton of leeway for our non Dylan performances. 5-1 would give us leeway but not anything we can really unclench with. Very steep uphill climb but luckily it’s not unprecedented

 

[RU-ROCS]

Why is at Oregon a game that's out of reach if UCLA just won at Oregon back in December and Illinois went to Oregon.and won 109-77?

Purdue on the road is tough, but we are scarred by watching 8 turnovers in the 1st 10 minutes at the RAC and Dylan Harper at 50%.

Michigan on the road or at home is tough, but I personally don't think anyone in the B1G is better than Texas A&M or Alabama, but if you want to throw in the towel, go for it......

The 3000 mile trip for East Coast teams has been kryptonite so far. Just ask MARYLAND, and they got to do it over winter break with no classes (and no students on campus at Oregon and Washington).

 

[richthedentist]

actually somewhere between +.5 and +1.0

Mon 1-20	A	56 (I)	Penn St.	+7.8, 85-77	25%	0.6
Sat 1-25	H	14 (I)	Michigan St.	+7.1, 80-73	26%	0.59
Wed 1-29	A	58 (I)	Northwestern	+6.5, 74-68	26%	0.59
Sat 2-01	H	10 (I-A)	Michigan	+8.8, 84-76	22%	0.64
Wed 2-05	H	4 (I-A)	Illinois	+11.7, 86-74	16%	0.73
Sun 2-09	A	18 (I-A)	Maryland	+14.2, 86-71	11%	0.8
Wed 2-12	H	39 (Ⅱ)	Iowa	+1.9, 86-84	44%	0.39
Sun 2-16	A	25 (I-A)	Oregon	+12.5, 84-72	14%	0.76
Wed 2-19	A	111 (Ⅱ)	Washington	+1.0, 76-75	46%	0.37
Sun 2-23	H	45 (Ⅱ)	USC	+0.6, 76-75	48%	0.35
Thu 2-27	A	10 (I-A)	Michigan	+17.1, 89-72	8%	0.85
Tue 3-04	A	12 (I-A)	Purdue	+15.1, 83-68	9%	0.83
Sun 3-09	H	105 (Ⅲ)	Minnesota	-5.6, 72-66	72%	0.16
						7.66​

Dumb question but what is WAB?

 

[PhillyRU]

The right 9 wins puts RU in
Tall task like at least 6’10” tall 😉

I think the right 8 get us in, I think any 9 gets us in

 

[socaldave]

I think the right 8 get us in, I think any 9 gets us in

Hope you are right

 

[RUDave_01]

Dumb question but what is WAB?

I believe it's Wins Above Bubble. I got the following from an external site:

Wins Above Bubble is not all that different than the idea of Wins Above Replacement in baseball. It’s the measurement of how much better you are than a team that would be right on the cut line. Or: How many more wins do you have than a team that would be on the edge of missing the tournament.

 

[SBP]

A B1G B1G ask, but in 3+ weeks maybe we can be bac on track.

For those who are impatient 3-0 puts us a hair away.

Yes WAB is just one metric and Yes right now there are more positive WAB teams than at large spots, but still.....


Worth noting we may be underdog in every game the rest of the day except for our last on March 9th

I dont mind being the dawg, we play better. I sense these guys intensity, especially Ace, Grant have put them in the hunt.