55 is back and at it's finest in years

[gigantor1024]

I am loving the ability of this team to get steals and execute the 55.

Sure it's been tougher against some of the larger and better teams of the B1G but it hasn't been this successful in a few years and I love the CViv is using it more in the last stretch of the regular season.

We're going to be a force in the B1G tourney and the dance

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Where has it been? I have not seen it in YEARS !!! Maybe the team did not have the depth to run it.

Maybe CVS held it back this year until late in the season so that teams could not prepare for it. Good time to spring it on everybody....right before tourney time.

 

[redshoes]

As Coach said " the 55 is hard and takes its toll on the players. I expect we will see it more coming down the stretch.

 

[RU MAN]

Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:
Where has it been? I have not seen it in YEARS !!! Maybe the team did not have the depth to run it.

Maybe CVS held it back this year until late in the season so that teams could not prepare for it. Good time to spring it on everybody....right before tourney time.

True, she has held it back and for good reason as you stated. But what is irritating is that I thought this was the year that women's BB was going to implement the 10 second rule. If so, Rutgers would have more wins, because they would have more touches. For example, against Maryland, I counted at least 5 times where the Maryland team didn't get it over the midcourt line, which would have resulted in a TO. IMO, that needs to be corrected, because the game has changed so much and it's so much faster. With the 55, this will wreak havoc even against the elite teams.

 

[knightfan2000]

They DID implement the 10 second rule - we got at least one possession today because of it. Whether the refs call it correctly is another matter

 

[RUChoppin]

If they call the backcourt violation rule consistently and accurately (when have wbball refs called anything consistently or accurately, but still), the 55 would be a hugely dangerous weapon - especially against a team that hasn't ever seen it.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Originally posted by RUChoppin:
If they call the backcourt violation rule consistently and accurately (when have wbball refs called anything consistently or accurately, but still), the 55 would be a hugely dangerous weapon - especially against a team that hasn't ever seen it.

Agree.....that's why I like CVS introducing it late in the season. Teams won't have time to prepare for it.

 

[gigantor1024]

Originally posted by RUChoppin:
If they call the backcourt violation rule consistently and accurately (when have wbball refs called anything consistently or accurately, but still), the 55 would be a hugely dangerous weapon - especially against a team that hasn't ever seen it.

there was a huge turning point in the Maryland game I thought we had forced a 10 second violation. but it wasnt called. I looked it up in the rule book, it's 10 consecutive seconds.

So if we knock the ball out of bounds and they inbounds with 28 seconds, it has to get down to 18 for the 10 second rule to be called.

I was disappointed by this but glad I looked it up to clarify

 

[RU MAN]

Well, if women's BB did implement the 10 second rule, then the officials need to learn about it don't you think? As I stated above, I counted at least 5 back court violations by Maryland in that game the other night. Let's face it---the officials in women's BB are atrocious at best. They're just horrible and inconsistent.

I've watched a ton of women's BB this year and I've yet to see ONE back court violation called. The 55 will and should wreak havoc and I'm looking forward to watching it around tournament time. I just wished the lousy officials would start calling it, because they're not.

 

[MC1974]

I have seen a few violations called. I think it is Coach's responsibility to get in the official's faces. Go to the monitor.

I do think that she has been holding back so teams can't prepare for it as well, yet, at the same time, teams may devote a lot of practice time and it will occupy a lot of mental space and anticipation-angst, thus drawing them away from their normal game prep.

While siting close to the action I love to watch the fear, frustration, and sometimes panic in the opponent's faces when the press is on. That and shot clock violations are some of the best things to witness at the RAC!!

 

[motorb54]

Originally posted by gigantor1024:

Originally posted by RUChoppin:
If they call the backcourt violation rule consistently and accurately (when have wbball refs called anything consistently or accurately, but still), the 55 would be a hugely dangerous weapon - especially against a team that hasn't ever seen it.

there was a huge turning point in the Maryland game I thought we had forced a 10 second violation. but it wasnt called. I looked it up in the rule book, it's 10 consecutive seconds.

So if we knock the ball out of bounds and they inbounds with 28 seconds, it has to get down to 18 for the 10 second rule to be called.

I was disappointed by this but glad I looked it up to clarify

That doesn't seem right. If it is right it shouldn't be.
I thought the officials were told to look at the shot clock to determine 10 seconds.

 

[MC1974]

That doesn't seem right. If it is right it shouldn't be.
I thought the officials were told to look at the shot clock to determine 10 seconds.

They are too busy looking for potential phantom fouls they can call on Rutgers players.

 

[Knight Time Fan]

Originally posted by motorb54:

Originally posted by gigantor1024:

Originally posted by RUChoppin:
If they call the backcourt violation rule consistently and accurately (when have wbball refs called anything consistently or accurately, but still), the 55 would be a hugely dangerous weapon - especially against a team that hasn't ever seen it.

there was a huge turning point in the Maryland game I thought we had forced a 10 second violation. but it wasnt called. I looked it up in the rule book, it's 10 consecutive seconds.

So if we knock the ball out of bounds and they inbounds with 28 seconds, it has to get down to 18 for the 10 second rule to be called.

I was disappointed by this but glad I looked it up to clarify

That doesn't seem right. If it is right it shouldn't be.
I thought the officials were told to look at the shot clock to determine 10 seconds.

Never-the-less, the poster is correct. It is 10 consecutive seconds. So, a coach can call a time-out after 9 seconds have elapsed to avoid a back-court, if they think it is worth the time-out. They then have 10 additional seconds to get the ball over.

Actually, the coach here in AZ did last year, because the players forgot in the "last" possession of a game that they needed to get it over the line. And while the game wasn't close - one of our very few wins - she was just annoyed at the lack of attention and obviously could afford the time-out. Of course, to be catty, it wasn't a situation they had experience with much.

Posted by Doug

 

[RU MAN]

Originally posted by Knight Time Fan:

Originally posted by motorb54:

Originally posted by gigantor1024:

Originally posted by RUChoppin:
If they call the backcourt violation rule consistently and accurately (when have wbball refs called anything consistently or accurately, but still), the 55 would be a hugely dangerous weapon - especially against a team that hasn't ever seen it.

there was a huge turning point in the Maryland game I thought we had forced a 10 second violation. but it wasnt called. I looked it up in the rule book, it's 10 consecutive seconds.

So if we knock the ball out of bounds and they inbounds with 28 seconds, it has to get down to 18 for the 10 second rule to be called.

I was disappointed by this but glad I looked it up to clarify

That doesn't seem right. If it is right it shouldn't be.
I thought the officials were told to look at the shot clock to determine 10 seconds.

Never-the-less, the poster is correct. It is 10 consecutive seconds. So, a coach can call a time-out after 9 seconds have elapsed to avoid a back-court, if they think it is worth the time-out. They then have 10 additional seconds to get the ball over.

Actually, the coach here in AZ did last year, because the players forgot in the "last" possession of a game that they needed to get it over the line. And while the game wasn't close - one of our very few wins - she was just annoyed at the lack of attention and obviously could afford the time-out. Of course, to be catty, it wasn't a situation they had experience with much.

Posted by Doug

Doug, that's a TERRIBLE rule and needs to be changed. It needs to be a total of 10 seconds period! Not consecutive seconds, but 10 seconds. That's why I counted at least 5 violations in the Maryland game. Why even have the rule if coaches can call timeout or the ball is knocked out? Then should they change the rule to 35 consecutive seconds for a shot clock violation even when the ball is knocked out of bounds? It's such a ridiculous rule.

 

[RUChoppin]

I knew that a timeout could reset the 10 second clock, but didn't realize that the ball getting knocked out of bounds could, too.

It's the same as the 5 seconds inbounding clock, I guess - you can call a timeout to rest the clock, or you can throw it back out of bounds off the leg of the defender.

I don't remember the one in particular being knocked out of bounds (the clock got down to 16 seconds before the ball crossed the timeline), and there was no timeout I don't believe. Don't have it on tape anymore, so can't check.