Taylor is the brand name. Pork roll is the food (and even Taylor calls it pork roll.)
But I'll forgive you since you are obviously not from NJ.
A look into Rutgers' offense & defense
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But I'll forgive you since you are obviously not from NJ.
What was there to enjoy? A blogger who still thinks Ash is coaching us. A blogger that talks about Syracuse
What was there to like ? This blogger still thinks we are coached by Ash. This blogger for some reason talks about Syracuse last year , when they really struggled, and does not mention how Michigan sucked last year, and beat Rutgers in 3OT’s when McNamara came into his first game and bailed out Milton. Both teams have essentially their whole team back , with 1-3 newer players, so the blogger’s perception of Michigan’s superiority is fantasy. Any blogger worth an ounce of credibility would realize that Vedral gets the ball out faster than any team Michigan has played , so the pass rush will be neutralized and our offensive line , which does have issues , will be less exposed. His sole reliance on the Syracuse game , thinking the Temple and Delaware games do not matter at all is dumb shit. Yeah , you cannot hang your hat on beating those teams and putting up yards like you did against them, but you have to account on whether there was improvement in passing , blocking , schemes , efficiency. So Delaware is relevant for that. I can almost guarantee we got at least 3 if not more 20+ chunk plays in the passing game. Once the screen / wide receiver plays are better defended because the safeties are cheating up , we will see double moves for a long completion or 2 , hopefully even a Vedral to Melton or to Cruikshank Td pass in stride blowing pass the secondary. Although his article focused on offense , his statement that we will not score 14 points and there is nothing to worry about is so clueless. He doesn’t even mention defense and special teams that are better than Michigan ‘s in every metric and that we have both played about the same level of competition. Does he even consider Rutgers defense and special teams putting up 7-14 points. If so , his one dimensional vaulted offense better be scoring TDS not Fgs., otherwise guess what his holier than mighty Michigan team will hold a big L between their asses at the Big House this Saturday. The overall dismissive nature of the tone of every point and it’s snarkingness was so annoying. Our 2005-2011 Schiano teams would have kicked Michigan’s asses. This chump thinks Ash like is the team Rutgers will field / Not!!!!! His failure to recognize our skill positions and wide receivers was also disrespectful. I hope both Melton , Cruikshank and Haskins and Langan score TDs on Saturday in all various ways.
Calm down, you did not see me going off on the guy (well at least after 2 cups of coffee). 😉 😂
The problem is you are using a game against an FCS team to try and prove this guys observations wrong. Are offense isn't as good as it was against Deleware and isn't as bad as it was against Syracuse. Its somewhere in the middle.
Actually you are making my point for me. I did not publish an article on-line claiming that RU will run out the exact same offense as they did against Syracuse. This has little to do with how good or bad the offense is. Rather it is about the schemes we run. My observation was that his analysis was not a good one if it did not take into consideration all of the potential schemes and plays they ran against all teams to date.
Understood.
I’d only comment that, until we prove otherwise consistently, a bias towards viewing us as a punching bag, by the Big Ten elites, isn’t entirely unwarranted. Only RU fans will view last season’s near win against UM as evidence of anything. Do it again on Saturday, and a few non-RU fans will notice. Do it a several years running and win a couple, more people will notice.
Gaining respect, and deserving respect IMO, is not an overnight thing for us. Will take years of success.
Taylor is the brand name. Pork roll is the food (and even Taylor calls it pork roll.)
But I'll forgive you since you are obviously not from NJ.
Well, this was back in the 70's. Lived in North NJ for ten years as a kid. Played for the mighty Somerset Hills Bulldogs.
Actually, in Northern NJ, it is IMPROPERLY called Taylor Ham. The further East, especially in Hudson County, it is pronounced Taylah Ham. It's actually a huge point of contention in this state--whast is the proper name of the world's greatest breakfast meat?
As others have mentioned, the blog watches one game by an opponent each week and breaks down each individual play. They picked Syracuse because that is most likely the most Big Ten like team you have played this season, with better athletes on average than Delaware or Temple. And while last year is not a perfect prediction of how a team will look this year, it is true more often than not that the good stay good (OSU) and the terrible stay terrible (UConn).
He doesn't think Ash is still your coach. As the title of the thread stated, this article only looked at the offense. If there is an article that breaks down the defense, I will post a link to that as well.
Yes, I am aware that this is the debate that may lead to a second Civil War. Similar to pork vs beef BBQ.
When I was a kid I didn't even know people called it anything else or would even care. I had a provincial upbringing.
If people start printing out the texts of you 2 the Brazilian rain forests are in jeopardy
Sure, but at least I break my overly verbose verbiage into small digestible chunks.
And anyway, I was already beating up on the Brazilian rain forest by buying a set of drums supposedly made from wood that was underwater in a Brazilian rain forest for 1000 years, or some such pure BS.
Ive always enjoyed reading that writer's pieces. They are always very comprehensive.
The truth hurts, but we do suck as a consistent team. We rely on things not going well for the opponent, to win as our talent is outclassed by most of the big ten east and some of the big ten west.
its gonna take another 3-4 years of great top 25 recruiting classes to hang with the likes of Ohio st, penn st and Michigan when they are at their best imo.
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I agree that it's fair for regular fans to feel that way until RU gains respect and proves itself as a more consistent winner.
That being said my comments are from the lens of this guy spending a significant amount of time in putting together a gameplay analysis blog each week. If he has to force-fit his analysis that RU will do something one way, based on one early season game and based on his own confirmation bias, it renders the analysis both incomplete and silly. Just my thoughts directed at those who commented that this guy's analysis/blog is "truth", great or spot on.
Of course they will have things together by then. That's their MO. Every year they lay an egg outside the conference and then come back in the conference and dominate.
I understand. I'm not actually intended to defend his blog post. I obviously don't care at all about him or his blog. I view the guy as just another fan who expends more energy than most in writing about their games. I don't view him as any kind of journalist.
His audience is Michigan fans. It’s not supposed to be objective. It is clearly slanted.
Exactly. It's unreasonable of us to expect an opposing team's fans to be objective. We're not objective either, usually, especially you Al - and that's fine. 😉
And while it's nice when people are objective in such analysis, because it makes the analysis more useful in a general sense, his target audience is other UM fans, not us. So his lack of objectivity is pretty understandable.
Once we start beating up on the UM, OSU, PSU, etc., then we can start our own blogs and do our own analysis that are dismissive of our opponents. I can't wait. 😃
A look at the Rutgers defense.
https://mgoblog.com/content/fee-fi-fo-film-rutgers-defense-2021#read-more
https://mgoblog.com/content/fee-fi-fo-film-rutgers-defense-2021#read-more
I really don't care much about him or his blog either. Never heard of him before and will likely never visit his blog again as this thread fades into the TKR archives. I admit to having a pet peeve about false or non-factual narratives. Other than that my stronger view into wanting to punch holes in his article was born out of curiosity as to why RU Fans on this board would jump in so favorably to support his obviously slanted and flawed analysis. By my count at this point in the thread roughly a third of the posters who have commented support his piece.
to be fair he's just a kid getting paid to write this particular column this year. The website is owned by Brian Cook and is one of the most heavily visited CFB blogs of the last 15 ish years. He is dealing with personal issues and has stepped back this year while others from the site are taking on new duties.
Better than the offense, but:
"Still looking at the Syracuse game, because it remains the only P5 team that the Scarlet Knights have played. Syracuse was bad on both sides of the ball last season, but their offense was considerably worse than the defense, and that's something to keep in mind as we delve into these clips."
So, the only P5 team Michigan has played is Washington, who lost to an FCS team. Take a look in the mirror.
The Vegas mirror says Washington would be a -17.5 favorite over Syracuse.
I'm not a gambler, except when I drive on the NJ Parkway. Is this the Vegas Mirror? (the transitive property thing comes to mind): 😉
Washington would likely beat Syracuse. But as we have seen before with the transitive property, it does not always work out that way.
Excited for tomorrow. Kind of concerned how RU will perform, but not leaving out the possibility of an upset, especially after seeing @rutgersal 's upset alert thread. Put Vegas money on that prediction.!!!!
I'm not a gambler, except when I drive on the NJ Parkway. Is this the Vegas Mirror? (the transitive property thing comes to mind): 😉
Washington would likely beat Syracuse. But as we have seen before with the transitive property, it does not always work out that way.
Excited for tomorrow. Kind of concerned how RU will perform, but not leaving out the possibility of an upset, especially after seeing @rutgersal 's upset alert thread. Put Vegas money on that prediction.!!!!
I saw a pair of CBSSportsNetwork goons take Rutgers and the points. So there's money on both sides.
I hope for a non controversial outcome (no suspicious ref calls or missed calls!) with zero injuries.
Go Big Ten
I’m not a gambler and know very little frankly but isn’t that how they come up with the line. They want money bet on both sides split fairly evenly right?
Vegas sets the initial line as to what they think will be the most likely result. Then, the public betting more on one team or the other moves the line until there is balance. The largest most successful programs have the most fans, but they also have the most haters, so they are not "a bad bet" over time.
Well there are also programs not well know outside of their geographical that get underestimated. It's different this year, but Cincinnati was constantly underrated by the fans in the past, and the lines reflected it. In fact, RU in the first year or two after Schiano 1.0 got his team together covered something like 10 times each year.
No FBS football teams are outside of Vegas' study. Yes, occasionally a team can be overvalued or undervalued for ten or more games. But it is like looking for a "system" to win at roulette. It isn't reliable.
That is why you see so many people attempting to SELL their betting selections instead of simply making their own genius insider bets and getting rich directly.
Says Tre getting burned often in the Secondary. Thinking this will change tomorrow.
But you yourself said the lines are adjusted based on how the public is betting. It's not the Vegas study that sets it up.
The betting public is not consistent. Lines don't go up or down for consistent reasons. I mean, you are welcome to try to make betting college football as a side hustle. It is extremely tough to win enough long term to cover the vig. No matter what trends you follow or dismiss.
And maybe that’s accurate. We’ll know later in the season. If there was a NET in college football, a road win at Syracuse would easily count as quad 2 at this point in time (they are 3-1 after beating Liberty tonight). Washington is currently 1-2, having beaten a bad Sun Belt team and lost to an FCS. A home win over them would probably be quad 3 right now. Again - maybe the comp changes as the season goes on but regardless of what Vegas thinks that’s what has happened on the field so far.
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