There are enough teams that no one really should do more than one game on Friday.
And so it begins, Big 10 on Fri. nights
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But Michigan on the field this year is like 78-0 better then RU. So I do give their on field play some sway.
And if OSU is cool with away games on Friday nights then great. That's on them. Just as Michigan can have it's own opinion.
Again, if Michigan's refusal to play a friday night game negatively affected RU, then I might take offense, but imo it benefits RU by leaving open additional Friday night oppurtunities.
We were just talking about thursday night games the other day, and how the B1G should include them in scheduling.
At least some of us were.
And some of said it was coming and soon.
Some like Whitebus immediately attacked.
Now crickets. Lesson to be learned.
I doubt it will be one Friday home game every year. Maybe one year it is a home game and the next away. These Friday games will truly be a national game and great exposure. No downside other than it is a pain to get to a Friday night game due to work and traffic. The Friday night high school thing is overblown as it will not change recruiting or change high school attendance, and again it is one night every other year. Heck, this may become a big thing just like Thursday nights became, after the RU/Louisville game, and before the NFL got crazy.
Not happening. Yankee Stadium isn't open for football until November, by which time Friday Night B1G will have concluded.
Rutgers athletic director Pat Hobbs said in a statement, “One of the reasons Coach (Chris) Ash was so attracted to Rutgers is the quality of high school football here in New Jersey. He's worked incredibly hard since his arrival to strengthen our ties with these programs. In its continuing efforts to advance the Big Ten, the conference has asked us to be open to playing one game a year on a Friday night, preferably Labor Day weekend.
Michigan reportedly already has said it will not agree to play any games on Friday nights, and Penn State told the conference it only will play on the road. Wisconsin AD Barry Alvarez said in a statement that the Badgers are open to hosting a game on the Friday of Labor Day weekend.
http://www.mycentraljersey.com/stor...ers-ad-hobbs-weighs-big-ten-fridays/93231114/
Michigan reportedly already has said it will not agree to play any games on Friday nights, and Penn State told the conference it only will play on the road. Wisconsin AD Barry Alvarez said in a statement that the Badgers are open to hosting a game on the Friday of Labor Day weekend.
http://www.mycentraljersey.com/stor...ers-ad-hobbs-weighs-big-ten-fridays/93231114/
The point is Rutgers left the BE because certain schools welded more Powers than others. The Big Ten is supposed to be true equals among peers. The B1G cave in by allowing certain schools not to have home games and in return Penn State and Ohio State were okay with playing away games on Fridays. They had no problem in helping the brand name. Michigan couldn't be like the others they want to have their cake and eat it too. Are they Superior to Ohio State... I don't think so. Ohio state has been the gold standard for the Big Ten the last 10 years not Michigan.
I say we volunteer for Labor Day Friday Knights-people out of work early and can still get to the beach/else late night Friday after the game or Saturday AM (and have Saturday-Monday free).
I'm entirely disappointed in myself for not recognizing that joke just sitting there in my words. Luckily, we have mildone as backup. He rarely misses such things :smiley:
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
The B1G distributes money equally. That's about it.
Ohio State and Michigan will forever be the league's darlings. Get used to it.
Well, wrt football (which drives the economic bus), schools like Ohio State, Penn State & Michigan have many times the number of fans as Purdue, Northwestern, Indiana etc. Those fans drive TV ratings. The TV revenue will eventually be split evenly between all 14 members.
I don't think Rutgers is in any way getting a bad deal. Do you think ND/BYU independence would be more profitable?
That's not how I remember it playing out.
Your right. I was think of the BS talked up by WVU AD (Luck) who tried to knock Rutgers to increase the value of the WVU brand to other leagues. The BE was just a mess with everyone cutting the throats of each other.
What I don't like with some of the B1G members is how they try to knock Rutgers' importance in the new TV deal. Without Rutgers and Maryland, the B1G is in the same place as the Pac 12 in being trapped with limited growth. You're in a good league, but you can't grow the product or brand to stay ahead of a competitive market. I get buying into the Network (B1G), but the new TV deal (Fox & ESPN) includes the work of Rutgers and Maryland adding to the bottom line of the league revenue. Two schools add more than 30% of the viewers to the league total viewership. In return the advertising dollars are greater with national brands getting more involved. The product from both schools may not be great right now, but their impact is just as important to the growth (dollar wise & viewers) of the league. Throw a few more bones Rutgers way to get them to $20 million to help stay somewhat competitive. Over the long run a non competitive Rutgers is not good for the league.
One thing that occurred to me is that the new B1G deal has not been announced.
I think this could have been part of the delay in that the B1G wanted a even bigger deal and has negotiated Friday night games as well as some other things they can do to increase the value and inventory of the B1G.
I mean to be Delaney with Harbaugh and Meyer taking up most of the day on Saturday on national television, you have to find other slots for your programs. ABC/ESPN and Fox are going to want Michigan and Ohio State as much as possible. So to schools in Urban areas like Northwestern, Rutgers, and Maryland Friday night games probably do far greater than noon games.
So if Maryland gets
Saturday games:
236k people watched MD/Indiana
312k people watched MD/Minnesota
Friday games:
3.333M people watched Stanford/Washington (pulled in 2.0M year before on Saturday)
1.730M people watched Louisville/Syracuse
1.3 M people watched USF/Temple (pulled in 280k year before on Saturday)
782K people watched Hawaii/Cal
556K people watched Navy/USF
410K people watched Tulsa/SMU (pulled in 63k year before on Saturday)
So basically MD and Rutgers aren't that good, but based on what I have seen here we should get 700k-1.2M based on the match up.
Now consider the value to ESPN/ABC/FoX that's basically 3-5 times more viewers than we got this year. Last year Penn State vs. Maryland was 1.5M viewers going up against Alabama/Tennessee at 4.5 million viewers.
So if you consider a top match up is getting you 4M-10M (10M being Ohio State/Michigan or Alabama Aurburn), you can make a Maryland game on Friday pull in 1M viewers. That's like playing three noon games where we only pull in 300k viewers. Based on our schedule when we play Richmond, USF, Minnesota, Indiana or teams no one really cares about our own fan base is able to put up 300k viewers.
So again, a Friday night game alone may triple viewers for Maryland on average. It appears there is diminishing returns, but it helps out bad teams, and really helps out average teams, but there is only a small margin of viewership gain for good teams.
Really hard to justify not doing something that triples Maryland and Rutger's viewership. The better we do, the better the B1G does, the better we do. We aren't here to be dead weights. If we can triple our value to the networks that is good for the B1G TV deal.
Umm, you do realize that a "cow pasture" college doesn't have a lot of infrastructure built to get to it right?
BTW, OSU has already said that they will do one every three years.
I thought this was great news for lower level teams in the B1G (no flame). Let's be honest. Other than RU/Purdue/ILL/MD fans, who exactly do you think is watching those games when they go head-to-head with T20 teams and matchups?
So you own your own business but you don't ever take any time off...not even an afternoon? LOL
You realize you are one of the lower level teams in the B1G (no flame), right? No matter how hard you try to act like you're on the same level as OSU and Michigan, you aren't. And you've never been.
If you noticed, there were several mid level B1G teams that I didn't mention. Sorry, but PSU is not a lower level B1G team. Mid level, yes.
I really couldn't care less if RU plays on Fridays or not. If you would rather play on Saturday at noon and have no one but your fans watch your games and get no national exposure then please feel free to do so.
Says the guy who just made five posts on the subject in half an hour.
1. I'm all for doing Friday games.
2. I'm also all for our fans shutting up and not complaining about every scheduling decision, as I alluded on this and other threads.
3. What anyone here would rather do has little bearing on what's going to happen.
Just read the whole thread and made comments. Sorry they weren't spread out over two or three days.
3. Actually, RU...like Michigan...could say they aren't going to do it.
BTW, you took offense to my comments on lower level B1G teams and then tried to throw PSU in the group and failed miserably. If you don't think RU is currently a lower level B1G team then I'm not quite sure what to tell you.
But you just said you couldn't care less if RU plays on Fridays or not. So why would you be reading a whole thread about that exact topic and making comments to begin with? See that ... up there .. it's THE point! Glad you found it, now.
I have no idea what you're talking about in your #3 retort. This is a fan board, and the fans that are disgruntled here are not going to make an official statement about opting out.
That ... out there in the dark, beyond the cows and screaming grade schoolers ... that's another point! Go run out and grab 'er so you don't loser 'er again.
If calling PSU "mid level" makes you feel better, then who am I to stand in your way?
Just because I responded to a thread doesn't make me care one way or the other what Rutgers does. Again, let them play in front of 50,000 people and another 100,000 TV sets rather than during prime time. That's actually better for Penn State.
Despite all the pasture jokes I've read numerous RU posters on here about how Penn State's campus is superior to RU's. Then again, RU being right next to NYC appears to be quite a selling point on the trail.
Posters like you make me anxious for another RU beat down in a couple weeks.
Penn State's campus may or may not be nice, but most people here aren't in college, so that matters little. Anyway, the cow pasture jokes are really not about the campus so much as the entire area, and NJ is a 1,000 x better place to be all around than Central Pennsylbama. And I don't even like NJ that much.
So, I beat you down so hard on the RU board now you have to hope your team of college kids can beat my team of college kids on the field? Manly.
RU and MD were profitable opportunities because of the markets, absolutely, but you're overstating their importance as it relates to the B1G's long-term viability.
Beat down? Yeah okay. You took offense to me saying RU was a low level B1G team and then tried to throw Penn State in that category which is completely untrue. After that you posted a bunch of gibberish that had nothing to do with my original comments. Yes, quite a beat down.
Tradition doesn't drive football the way used. There's a reason why conferences keep talking about expansion because TV is now one of the most important components to the survival of a conference. How in the hell do you think we got the Friday night games? The more TV sets in your footprint the greater the revenue source. Tradition was bringing you a shrinking market and that's one of the main reasons the B1G reached out. It''s a symbiotic relationship. Rutgers needed the B1G to survive and the B1G needed Rutgers (& Maryland) to stay ahead of the other conferences. I just don't appreciate people like you or the other B1G folks trying to marginalize Rutgers and Maryland important to this new TV deal.
Now that I think about it, is that why your fans keep talking about moving to the ACC? The folks in the B1G don't appreciate what Penn State brings to the table.
Nuts, you still in Purple? Let's have a beer. I will be at the game. Parking in Black tomorrow. I will have my little guy in tow.
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