Another Schiano Thread (yes, there's mutual interest according to my sources)...
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No he didn't. Not even close. He put his plan together what was needed for football and let Mulcahy and Pernetti ran Athletics. You are so far off base.
I'm all for that as long as he takes care OF job number 1 , 2, and 3 first.
(and please tell me HE wasn't the guy making them plow that field vs. WVU during the snow storm...:cry: :)
I would agree, ultimately they are to blame for allowing it to happen. But he ran roughshod over the department.
No they dont know eachother and I am making this up to support my agenda that means absolutely nothing in terms of who get hired.
I did offer this: "Another source tells me several of RU's big boosters are pro-Schiano guys, which is no surprise to many who know these boosters. What I don't know is what Hobbs thinks. I can only hope that these boosters are able to convince him that Greg is the best choice - unless Hobbs pulls a rabbit out of the hat and is able to afford bringing in a gamechanger as head coach." The implication, based on what I've read here is that there could be an issue - however, I haven't heard anything from either Hobbs or Schiano about whether there's actually an issue. It's obviously an important element, but I simply don't know anything about it.
Let me first say that I have no idea what Pat thinks or how he feels abut Schiano. However, I could very well see him being hesitant to bring him back just on the say-so of G Brown and others. McNulty's second tour of duty didn't work out so well.
Edit: Also, Pat's the one that has to make the hire and has to face the consequences. It's his job on the line if Schiano fails.
No assistant coach worth having will tolerate being micromanaged for long. Conversely, if an assistant coach cannot perform to expectations without micromanaging, that coach should be replaced.
It was more the AD's, but make no mistake. Schiano ran the dept. when he was there.
He won't have that luxury this time. Not in a fully formed department in the B1G anyway.
We need a football coach. If that isn't him, find out who is.
I personally know Bob Mulcahy and Tim Pernetti. You couldn't be farther from the truth. Both men like Schiano very much but both wouldn't let him take over anything but football. Schiano didn't want to run the Department at all. Didn't care too.
Why not and how do you know? I think Hobbs should be a fan of whomever has the necessary skills for this project and right now I’m pulling for GS. You can assume that any head coach who is up for this gig is going to have an ego, want to do it his way, and be in total control of his program. If Hobbs can’t handle that he needs to take this program down 1AA
I like this post.
Considering that Rome is burning, I find it hard to believe that Hobbs will be able to find a better choice than Schiano.
Unless you are Urban Meyer status, this is a rebuilding nightmare for any incoming coach...especially if you do not have New Jersey ties.
Schiano can build immediate excitement for both fans and recruits (especially graduate transfers from big player stockpile schools like Alabama, MIchigan, and Ohio State that have something to prove. See Schiano players in the NFL!
Considering that Rome is burning, I find it hard to believe that Hobbs will be able to find a better choice than Schiano.
Unless you are Urban Meyer status, this is a rebuilding nightmare for any incoming coach...especially if you do not have New Jersey ties.
Schiano can build immediate excitement for both fans and recruits (especially graduate transfers from big player stockpile schools like Alabama, MIchigan, and Ohio State that have something to prove. See Schiano players in the NFL!
Like, do you really care as a fan if he’s a control freak? Check out his record for his last few years at RU. He was onto big big things, but he got an offer that was hard to pass up (ok, ok that he couldn’t refuse). He belongs here at RU. I have no doubt whatsoever that he will do a bang up job and he’ll be here for a long time.
Hobbs should have his tail between his legs after his bluster about Ash, the contract and bring him back a 4th year. He needs to listen to the people paying not his ego
exactly...its as if half our fanbase is living in a fantasy land where Rutgers is well positioned for a coach to succeed. Its one top 5 the toughest jobs in college football. We have a segment of fans who continually overrate our place at the table..remember when they said we were at the level or better than Indiana or Maryland..newsflash..we are not...we are the lowest in the Big 10 and only Illinois is in our vicinity. A midwestern MAC coach has zero idea what he is getting into by coming here. Greg knows and he knows, this is such a non brainer
There are long lists of pros and cons for me with Schiano. For the other candidates, I don't really have much of a list on either side.
On balance, I think Schiano would be a large step up from Ash and a step up from what we had with Flood - but I don't see him repeating the success he had here from 2006-11. Does that mean consistent bowl seasons? I don't know - I think he's at least got a fair shot at getting us back to .500 in a few years.
On balance, I think Schiano would be a large step up from Ash and a step up from what we had with Flood - but I don't see him repeating the success he had here from 2006-11. Does that mean consistent bowl seasons? I don't know - I think he's at least got a fair shot at getting us back to .500 in a few years.
I don't think the boosters should have any say, and they shouldn't be listened to, unless it's all about the money, which it
should not be.
Says a university professor?
You really could not be more wrong. See my thread about the type of person/employee who the frequent complainers about micromanaging.
During the last 4 seasons he was hanging around Piscataway RU's Big East Conference record was 13-15.
I have first-hand experience with micromanagers, both inside and outside academe. They are generally impossible to reason with even when they are screwing up. They think they're right all the time, even about things they know nothing about.
After Tennessee, Greg is damaged goods, and right now, so are we. For better or worse, we are a pretty good match for one another right now.
As for micromanaging... Unless we are willing to pay for coordinators with experience at this level, I’d expect micromanaging. If we hire the two Camps, as coordinators I doubt we’ll see much delegation.
As for micromanaging... Unless we are willing to pay for coordinators with experience at this level, I’d expect micromanaging. If we hire the two Camps, as coordinators I doubt we’ll see much delegation.
I have no doubt that Schiano would get us back to respectability, but once he plateaus he will be impossible to remove for the next coach to take us to the next level.
Jerks are bad. Micromanagers are not, and in many organizations, speaking from experience, micromanaging is the only way to insure success.
From many years of experience in seeing the types of workers who complain about micromanaging, it is almost without fail those that do not want their work product to meet the light of day. The thorough, the high achiever, the competent all welcome micromanaging because it brings to the fore their work product, and exposes their excellence. Many don’t want the exposure to hit their work.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you use the term micromanager and jerk interchangeably, I could see how you come to that conclusion. But if you separate the term from whatever preconceived notion or lack of oversight that you and others may desire, you’ll see that it is just a means of thoroughness and competence, especially when surrounded by either inexperienced or less than fully skilled employees .
And boy does the Rutgers football program need all of that micromanaging and more at this point in time.
The idea of a hands off head coach it’s quite the scary proposition. I would posit that the job at this point absolutely without reservation requires a significant micromanager.
If Schiano is hired and that's a mighty big if:
he better just look out after the D and let the OC handle everything offense
If the Camps are Coordinators , Nuzio needs to prove this year he can handle the position.
Don't want another Boy Wonder mess.
But he has the rest of this season to prove he can do it.
Anthony can move over from his Wolverine LB coach spot and be the DC with Schiano making sure it's up to par
What world do you live in? It’s all about the boosters at every school and especially at big time football and basketball schools. We need more boosters!
After watching this train wreck of a program who would worry about post respectability longevity - just weird.
Track and Field won a big east championship during that time frame. Wouldn't consider that dying in the vine
Don’t care if he’s a micromanager. Just wanna see a competitive RU team on the field again, with all the good vibes, anticipation and pride that comes with it.
Dead on! Anyone on this board who diminishes the possibility of a Schiano hire because he may not be able to get us to the level of OSU is totally clueless - not unexpected from the dopes posting here.
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