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Any truth to administration trust issues with Julie?

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I have seen this now in multiple articles on head coach changes...

"Kyle Flood’s job is in grave jeopardy for so many reasons that the only counter-argument to keeping him would seem to be a fear of athletic director Julie Hermann being entrusted with hiring his replacement.
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Is this a real thing or just some copy and paste from a questionable write up?
 
Is this a real thing or just some copy and paste from a questionable write up?
Definitely the latter. Most likely the original source of this was our favorite writers from our favorite yellow journalism rag here in NJ.
 
I think some writers look at the limited amount of press conferences/involvement with Julie and think it's due to lack of trust from the administration. I don't think that's the case though. I think they want her to work behind the scenes right now -- stuff like her fundraising for the new baseball/softball facility. Some of keeping her behind the scenes is probably related to the initial bad press she received and some (as pointed out by Jim_from_RU) is likely due to her being a woman in a predominately male position.
 
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Not trying to stir something up but the original writer was probably just sexist. And assumes women shouldn't be trusted with football.
 
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last year there were many more disgruntled department people than one and their sex didn't matter --I have no idea if that's still the case
 
jim you are a a$$--and using your foul mouth go F yourself if the truth hurts--you do know people talk and this came from a dean at RU and from those in that dept
 
Thanks - Julie needs to raise money for facilities now that baseball broke ground. Another AD change would be bad right now.

Hope she controls her department and budget enough to do what's needed with football coaching. To bad what really need to happen (reduce varsity sports) to fit our budget is not an achievable task.
 
jim you are a a$$--and using your foul mouth go F yourself if the truth hurts--you do know people talk and this came from a dean at RU and from those in that dept
Dude, I'd tell you to screw off to your face, never mind here.
 
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The argument that JH is too busy working behind the scenes to speak to the press or be the face of the program is BS. Doesn't take much time to fit in an interview or answer a few questions. IMO, this is she and the school staying away purposely. Whether this is the right or wrong way to handle our situation is debatable. And I am a JH supporter at this point in time, so no need to jump on my case.
 
I have seen this now in multiple articles on head coach changes...

"Kyle Flood’s job is in grave jeopardy for so many reasons that the only counter-argument to keeping him would seem to be a fear of athletic director Julie Hermann being entrusted with hiring his replacement."​

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Is this a real thing or just some copy and paste from a questionable write up?

So, in order for this to be true, there would need to be someone above Hermann who would make the decision to keep Flood because they don't trust Hermann with hiring a replacement for Flood. Who would that person be? Barchi? Greg Brown? A majority of the BOG?

Other than that, no one else really gets a vote. And as far as I've been told, except for JH's propensity for sticking her foot in her mouth, Barchi, Brown, and the BOG are pretty happy with Hermann's job performance.
 
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Well, in all candor there seems to be at least one fact supporting the Administration's lack of trust in JH. The Administration no longer allows her to speak at press conferences, which is a rarity for an A.D.employed by a school in a power 5 conference. It is therefore not that unreasonable for sports writer to extend the Admin's distrust to the hiring process as well.
 
It's somewhat hilarious what these reporters will say. So this guys is saying that rather then hire a coach b/c we don't "trust" our AD, we would rather keep a coach who we don't think can get the job done. That's brilliant. So what then, we just keep Flood forever... or fire Hermann once we decide to hire a coach and then hire an AD who we trust so we can hire and AD and coach at the same time? That guy is clearly an idiot, because that makes zero sense.
 
What happened to the ADs that got out in front and had their every move scrutinized by the local media
Seems like working in public only cost them their positions and probably some donations after the positive things they were trying to do , were spun into a negative that was costing the state money.

I think it's not that the RU Administration doesn't think Julie can do a good job, just that they know the local media will spin what she's doing and turn positives into negatives like they always have done since RU decided to improve its FB program and expand Rutgers Stadium.
 
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Think Julie knew coming in that this was going to be a difficult job to walk into. What she didn't realize was how quickly her own "past" would be spotlighted by the rag paper. To compound things, the leaks from inside the department made her job even more difficult and what's resulted is an administration that has sought outside help in dealing with these types of situations. Seemingly, they're at a crossroads deciding how to best handle these situations going forward in this ridiculous climate brought to you by the rest of our bastard state. And yes I realize we do ourselves no favor as a University with some of the missteps within our program.

As an aside, I was always curious how much advice Tom Jurich offered her during the really difficult times and how he'll put that into play during Louisville's current fiasco.
 
Think Julie knew coming in that this was going to be a difficult job to walk into. What she didn't realize was how quickly her own "past" would be spotlighted by the rag paper. To compound things, the leaks from inside the department made her job even more difficult and what's resulted is an administration that has sought outside help in dealing with these types of situations. Seemingly, they're at a crossroads deciding how to best handle these situations going forward in this ridiculous climate brought to you by the rest of our bastard state. And yes I realize we do ourselves no favor as a University with some of the missteps within our program.

As an aside, I was always curious how much advice Tom Jurich offered her during the really difficult times and how he'll put that into play during Louisville's current fiasco.
Miss Julie was a great assistant calling donors and such, but RU had a chance to hire
an experienced AD that got thru all this before, and RU blew it, big time, In my opinion.
 
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Well, in all candor there seems to be at least one fact supporting the Administration's lack of trust in JH. The Administration no longer allows her to speak at press conferences, which is a rarity for an A.D.employed by a school in a power 5 conference. It is therefore not that unreasonable for sports writer to extend the Admin's distrust to the hiring process as well.
Drawing the conclusion that the infrequency of Hermann's statements to the press in 2015 is the result of an "Administration" gag order, I see?
 
The argument that JH is too busy working behind the scenes to speak to the press or be the face of the program is BS. Doesn't take much time to fit in an interview or answer a few questions. IMO, this is she and the school staying away purposely. Whether this is the right or wrong way to handle our situation is debatable. And I am a JH supporter at this point in time, so no need to jump on my case.
It's most definitely on purpose and I've said should be the blueprint going forward with any other athletic director as well. The media does us no favors and are looking to pounce on any little thing and that won't change by playing nice with them. Give them as little as possible and only talk to them as necessary, which isn't often. The rest can be done through statements and RU media platforms.

Like I've said many times being in front of the media or talking to them often isn't a main responsibility of the athletic director. Hiring good coaches and raising money are all I care about, that's the meat and potatoes of the job not media BS. Again how many people can name more than a handful of athletic directors across the country. I actually follow that kind of stuff and I probably can't get beyond 15 or so.

How many knew the Miami AD, Blake James, before he fired Golden? It was done in a statement too btw, not him getting out front and answering questions. Spurrier just retired and how many know who the USCe AD is even after that bit of news? The football coaches and MBB coaches are the faces of the department not the athletic director, although that person is technically the boss. Pretty much the only time that a public media appearance is necessary is when a major coaching hire is made, otherwise just go about your work and keep taking care of the real business at hand.
 
It's most definitely on purpose and I've said should be the blueprint going forward with any other athletic director as well. The media does us no favors and are looking to pounce on any little thing and that won't change by playing nice with them. Give them as little as possible and only talk to them as necessary, which isn't often. The rest can be done through statements and RU media platforms.

Like I've said many times being in front of the media or talking to them often isn't a main responsibility of the athletic director. Hiring good coaches and raising money are all I care about, that's the meat and potatoes of the job not media BS. Again how many people can name more than a handful of athletic directors across the country. I actually follow that kind of stuff and I probably can't get beyond 15 or so.

How many knew the Miami AD, Blake James, before he fired Golden? It was done in a statement too btw, not him getting out front and answering questions. Spurrier just retired and how many know who the USCe AD is even after that bit of news? The football coaches and MBB coaches are the faces of the department not the athletic director, although that person is technically the boss. Pretty much the only time that a public media appearance is necessary is when a major coaching hire is made, otherwise just go about your work and keep taking care of the real business at hand.

You have got to be kidding me! It's part of the essential job functions of an AD to be the face and voice of the University's Athletic Department. A skillful AD will utilize press conferences to put the Athletic Department in the best light possible. Press conferences afford an AD the opportunity to put favorable spins when things go wrong. They are also useful for great PR when things go right.
 
You have got to be kidding me! It's part of the essential job functions of an AD to be the face and voice of the University's Athletic Department. A skillful AD will utilize press conferences to put the Athletic Department in the best light possible. Press conferences afford an AD the opportunity to put favorable spins when things go wrong. They are also useful for great PR when things go right.

Who is the Alabama AD without looking on line?
 
he will say it was the assistant from Wisky mainly because he was a man, but Julie had more meat on her resume

also that guy had a semiscandal that would have been brought up too so the press would have been dogging him from the beginning[/QUOT
Yes, he was one, It was not because he was a man, which is not any worse than
"Oh we have to hire so and so because she isn't a man, and it's politically correct"
Man, you really are in love Huh? :smiley:
 
You have got to be kidding me! It's part of the essential job functions of an AD to be the face and voice of the University's Athletic Department. A skillful AD will utilize press conferences to put the Athletic Department in the best light possible. Press conferences afford an AD the opportunity to put favorable spins when things go wrong. They are also useful for great PR when things go right.
Nope not kidding at all and certainly not with a hostile press that will pick apart any little thing an AD says and it's hardly essential. We'e already seen it twice here. If it's so essential why aren't athletic directors known throughout the country by fans all over. No one cares who the athletic director is and no one knows who they are. I can name practically every P5 football coach and many mid majors and tons of MBB coaches. I'm sure most fans can. How many can name more than a handful of athletic directors.

You know what puts the athletic department in the best light possible? Winning....a lot and what is that function of? Hiring good coaches. You know what else puts the athletic department in the best light? Great facilities and you know what that's a function of...raising money. Those are the essential job functions not press.

How much did the Baylor AD say when Art Briles had that whole Boise State transfer issue popped up? Other scandals you don't see ADs out front taking bullets from less hostile media than we have here. Occasionally will they? Sure. Jurich did at Louisville just recently but that's more the aberration than the rule. You're an SHU fan right? Didn't you guys have a situation with a lockerroom fight between basketball players quite awhile ago? Did your AD come out in press conference over that? I don't even know the answer but I'm guessing no.

Press conferences and the like are all fluff, the only thing people care about is winning and that's about hiring good coaches. The other thing they care about are great facilities and that's a function of fundraising. Meeting with a hostile media who will try to pick apart every word you say adds nothing. Your biggest marketing tool is success not giving some fluffy answers to a media that will do anything to pick you apart.
 
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Alabama? I can't even name the Seton Hall AD.

OK, so I Googled it. His name is Patrick Lyons. A news search on Google shows zero quotes from Lyons (other than quotes in SH press releases) in the past year.

But maybe Batts thinks that the SH AD is failing at one of his "essential job functions."
 
I dont even know the Mnnesota AD canned for sexting and the media moved on from that quickly
His name is Norwood Teague and he came from VCU IIRC and that's without looking it up but like I said I follow these things and even I can't name more than a dozen or so.

No one knows and no one cares who the athletic director is. They would know them if they were out in front of the media all the time. They're not. Their biggest responsibilities are behind the scenes. Hiring good coaches and raising money.

Winning and great facilities are your biggest marketing tools, not giving fluff answers to a hostile press looking to pick you apart. Focus on substance not flash.
 
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