If you are being sarcastic, brilliant. I will leave it at that.How can anyone argue that it was the correct call? The strategy backfired both times. That settles it.
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If you are being sarcastic, brilliant. I will leave it at that.How can anyone argue that it was the correct call? The strategy backfired both times. That settles it.
Carino Article.This is a rookie mistake Ash shouldnt be making in year #2. Hope he learns from it and holds himself accountable. You dont stop the Mo you have going and then show lack of confidence in your offense,in light of horrible special teams. Rookie call.
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...ed-and-grateful-for-ashs-punt-call/624543001/
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this is not correct.... I thought the call was wrong as it happened.
What's your problem with Ash? When the last time we were competitive against a top 10 team going into the 4th quarter?
Quick observations:
OL: Kamaal seymour actually didnt look THAT bad. Applefield seemed to struggle a little bit more
Baileys TD: shouldve been picked, horribly underthrown
DL: behind our starters not too many guys popped. Wiafe is particular is stiff as a board. Starters were impressive
Kemoko: deserves his own section, i understand he had one blown coverage but this kid is a special player. He keeps this up, top 3 round pick.
RB: Martin deserves to play over gus
QB: bolin has a below average arm as we all already knew about and if thats gonna limit him to one read, super conservative throws, i expect lewis to be in there by mid october.
WR: hard to really make judgements but looked like they werent getting much separation
TE: Jerome Washington is a beast. Might even be a better blocker than some of our OL's
DBs: all around pretty good, not much to complain about, but again behind starters pretty big drop off
LB's: were ehhhh. They have to initiate contact more than waiting for the contact to come to them
IIRC, Ray Lucas thought it was right. I'll take his opinion over most every fan's opinions, as he knows a little bit about the game.
In hindsight maybe it was a bad call. At the time I thought it was a good call. Easy to look back now and second guess.I wanted him to go for it. But i'm not going to pretend like his thinking was wrong to want to try and pin them inside the 5 like they did to us 2 times. He tried to flip the field of play. We have a young head coach and a young team growing together.
In hindsight maybe it was a bad call. At the time I thought it was a good call. Easy to look back now and second guess.
so did the other 20,000 + booing the decision as they came out to punt.---
this is not correct.... I thought the call was wrong as it happened.
----Anyone can have any opinion they want. Ash knows the team better then anyone. When the team proves it can move the ball he will take these kinds of risks more. Good teams would not hesitate to go for it. Rutgers is getting there.
A free press is the hallmark of human freedom and that includes sporting events. Ash should be questioned on the punt decision and the lack of urgency in 4Q, not attempting to throw downfield more.This is just more proof of the BS that the local media do to RU. He had a plan and told you what it was and it worked for the most part. You have to be close to have a chance to win at all. No need for this type of article unless your are trying to divide the fan base.
The local media would have slammed him for going for it on 4th also.. even if he failed to make it just once.Carino Article.This is a rookie mistake Ash shouldnt be making in year #2. Hope he learns from it and holds himself accountable. You dont stop the Mo you have going and then show lack of confidence in your offense,in light of horrible special teams. Rookie call.
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...ed-and-grateful-for-ashs-punt-call/624543001/
Punt was the right call! Going for it would be desperate. We were in the game, playing well, moving the ball, with lots of time to play.
This!!!perception is everything, bill parcells said there are no moral victories. in
this game this year , i beg to differ.we needed to be a tougher opponent
this year., and we were....i know. lets take some chances, but, wash could put
points up in a hurry, and if we lose 48-17, no one will care how tough we played.
they'll just see the score, and say same old ru .i understand were here to
express our opinion, but let coach ash coach, and get this team where it
needs to be in the big east.
So Carino thought he should go for it and when he didn't he mis used quotes from the other team to try and question his decision, and we are doing exactly what he wants, we are arguing about a narrative that he wants to drive.Carino Article.This is a rookie mistake Ash shouldnt be making in year #2. Hope he learns from it and holds himself accountable. You dont stop the Mo you have going and then show lack of confidence in your offense,in light of horrible special teams. Rookie call.
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...ed-and-grateful-for-ashs-punt-call/624543001/
---I see both sides on this particular call, but keep in mind we were in the game at that point. Forget the call and just be happy the score was 10-7 at the end of the 3rd quarter. Barring any injuries this team is going win at least 5 games this year.
Disagree, i think his clock management was totally fine. Our starting qb is not capable of stretching the field and making those type of big play throws so you play for the fg and make sure UW has no chance to get the ball back.Will say Ash did a garbage job with the clock at the end of the first half. Calls a spike and then we go into the half with a time out on the board
Carino Article.This is a rookie mistake Ash shouldnt be making in year #2. Hope he learns from it and holds himself accountable. You dont stop the Mo you have going and then show lack of confidence in your offense,in light of horrible special teams. Rookie call.
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...ed-and-grateful-for-ashs-punt-call/624543001/
You've to take risks against a team with superior talent to level the playing field. No way you can expect to win straight up. Ash made a bad coaching error with the decisions to punt.
I understand the risk/benefit analysis of the situation (I was at the game, too). I wasn't pissed that we went for it, I was pissed that we couldn't get one yard. One. Damn. Yard.---
what should Rutgers have done with a 4th and one at the 35 against Nebraska?..... if you try a field goal, it is over 50 yards...if you punt, there is an excellent chance Nebraska starts from the
20.....
so did the other 20,000 + booing the decision as they came out to punt.
that may be so but having such over-whelming vocal support should give coach some confidence..and I posted in response to the comments about fans being wishy-washy on the decision.Fans always want to go for it, does not mean it is the right call.
It was absolutely the right call.
We dominated the TOP, yet we were the gassed team. We weren't going to win that game, we just had to look good and came away doing that.
Oh Boy Knight Shift the hate monger has a new writer to hate and spin reporting about!. Ash questionable play call on fourth down called out by another writer in APP today Sunday edition.. One decision turned tide in Rutgers Loss Also Ash was off base throwing Blame on punter who stood on back line of end zone and blasted a 55 yard punt but Vince O (who needs to go)special teams blew a great kick..Last season that same punt would have went went 29 yards..Jerry Carino is a snarky little douche who has a weird hard on for Rutgers, and you are a bigger douche for continually posting negative bullshit about Rutgers. Nobody on the Washington team said "stunned." The rest of the article had complimentary quotes about how well we played, but you don't highlight that because you have some sort of anti-Ash agenda. You are a jerk, plain and simple.
“I really didn’t think they were going to punt the ball,” Bierra said. “I thought they were going to stay out there (on offense).”
“They’re a lot more together as a unit,” Bierra said. “You could see they’ve taken a great step this year.”
“They played a lot harder this year,” Pettis said. “Guys were flying all over the field. They put some pressure on us.”
Agreed but unfortunately some people think you have to love every single decision Ash makes or you are somehow not a good fan. The game was better than expected but it does not mean we shouldn't have tried to win.actually we knew the outcome once Washington scored to go up 17-7 and they did it quickly..and then did scored again after Ash did it again
Wheezer is right, this is fair for discussion, you can love what Ash did with the team yesterday but still hold him accountable for those two plays
Carino is a hoops reporter, and not a good one. He wrote several snarky articles last year putting down Rutgers.Oh Boy Knight Shift the hate monger has a new writer to hate and spin reporting about!. Ash questionable play call on fourth down called out by another writer in APP today Sunday edition.. One decision turned tide in Rutgers Loss Also Ash was off base throwing Blame on punter who stood on back line of end zone and blasted a 55 yard punt but Vince O (who needs to go)special teams blew a great kick..Last season that same punt would have went went 29 yards..
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...urned-tide-rutgers-loss-washington/624632001/
In the end, Rutgers ended up showing some very good signs and letting it slip away in the second half, losing 30-14.
But at one point felt like it might just end up as the upset by which all others would be measured On the Banks.
And there was one play that had some scratching their heads when it happened, and left and increasingly uneasy as things played out over the next quarter. Because by the time Rutgers regained its footing four minutes into the fourth quarter, the game was effectively over.
It’s a tough call, no doubt. But the Rutgers offense had looked pretty good up to this point, and this was a perfect chance to show some faith in the players. Let them stay on the field, get a yard and try to win the game.
Instead, the punt team came out, with Washington taking over at its own 17.
The way the defense was playing I have zero issue with the first punt.
I think the second one is debatable, not a slam dunk though. If you have faith in the defense then continuing to play field position is not a terrible call.
Ya, but that does not suggest we should have gone for it on the first punt. But it is an argument for going for it on the 2nd one.for the record(per the drive chart)...Washing went 83 yards in 10 plays for a TD after the first punt and 80yards in 10 plays for a TD after the second punt. We did better stopping them short field then long. RU couldn't sustain much while Wash did. That's why you have to go for it when you have the chance.