I google it periodically and do not find any pictures of the progress on the new business school.
Has anybody had the chance to take any?
Has anybody had the chance to take any?
Are there any pictures of the new Business School available?
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Here's a couple links to articles that have some photos - nothing great but at least something...
http://www.business.rutgers.edu/news/glass-curtain-wall-new-rutgers-business-school-building-reflects-tale-globalization
http://www.business.rutgers.edu/news/glass-curtain-wall-new-rutgers-business-school-building-reflects-tale-globalization
http://www.business.rutgers.edu/news/glass-curtain-wall-new-rutgers-business-school-building-reflects-tale-globalization
http://www.business.rutgers.edu/news/glass-curtain-wall-new-rutgers-business-school-building-reflects-tale-globalization
From this article the exterior is a mystery. Is that glass or ...?
It appears mottled and is not attractive. I hate to say it but it reminds me of the American Dream project.
I hope my eyes deceive me and this is not the final product.
It appears mottled and is not attractive. I hate to say it but it reminds me of the American Dream project.
I hope my eyes deceive me and this is not the final product.
Well, I wasn't a fan of it in the initial plans, and I'm still not. Still reminds me of something out of Doom2, which is probably not the aesthetic we were going for. Shame that THAT is going to be the first thing that people see going into Livingston for the next half a century or more.
AI like the design, but don't like the exterior not the fact that so few windows greet visitors upon arriving@ Livingston campus. It would make a great lair for a corporate supervillain built on Roosevelt Island.
This post was edited on 7/1 11:44 AM by Korbermeister
This post was edited on 7/1 11:44 AM by Korbermeister
I'm wondering about outdoor space. Anytime you do a big project, on a campus, you've got to consider how you're going to frame, or create, the space around you. Here, you have those giant tilted support poles rising up over what might be used as a plaza. At least from what I've seen so far, it doesn't look like an area I'd want to spend time in. Can anyone tell me if that area, under the building, is intended for use?
This post was edited on 7/1 12:38 PM by lawmatt78
This post was edited on 7/1 12:38 PM by lawmatt78
The exterior is all glass so there isn't really a need for windows in the building as visitors will be able to see the interior of the building space to some extent. In terms of the space underneath the road does still go underneath the building. I'm reserving judgement until its complete. It wouldn't have been my first choice but I'll go with a wait and see.
What is on the roof, are those exhaust fans from the HVAC?
I understood the exterior to be glass but this looks to be clouded?
I like the pictures of the Newark business school and was hoping the exterior would look similar.
I understood the exterior to be glass but this looks to be clouded?
I like the pictures of the Newark business school and was hoping the exterior would look similar.
From what I saw yesterday,the exterior is all glass on the side facing the quads. The side facing Busch, the preserve & the new dorms is Metal(?) Louvers. Like a high tech prison.
Thanks, it is the louvers that are throwing me off. I am sure they have environmental value but aesthetically they look terrible. An 80 million dollar building with vinyl siding, we have outsmarted ourselves. I am not holding judgement until it is complete but will give it s second chance in person.
Lol, Doom2
The more I see the new business school building, the more I sour on it. While I still like that Livingston has some form of gateway now, this building is not special.
The siding is made up of perforated metal louvers in some sort of passive solar control scheme as per a picture on the business school's Picasa. I guess I'll have to see it in action.
The more I see the new business school building, the more I sour on it. While I still like that Livingston has some form of gateway now, this building is not special.
The siding is made up of perforated metal louvers in some sort of passive solar control scheme as per a picture on the business school's Picasa. I guess I'll have to see it in action.
LMFAO!!!!Originally posted by derleider:
I bet there's a BFG2000 right next to those pillars being guarded by this guy
Not very appealing but still confused and hope to better understand how the road/circle and building interface. Don't have high hopes but maybe i'll be pleasantly surprised when I see it in person.
My understanding of Rutgers policy is that HVAC and other building systems must be placed on the roof. Maybe that explains how the Business School building looks.
I understand the building's location, providing a frame for the campus along with the other new dorms & classrooms plus acting as the defacto gateway to Livingston. I understand that they wanted/needed to make a bold statement; this building with its L shape and it's large area supported by poles 50+' in the air is like nothing else that I know of in NJ. (the thought of being in the floor supported by those poles gives me a bit of vertigo lol). What I Don't understand is the exterior. It complements NOTHING on the campus, which is mostly brick and/or concrete and glass. Is the new BS building part of a masterclass to remake Livingston campus into a business/tech incubator?
Said it from when they first unveiled the designs, have watched it get built (take a ride past it at least once or twice a week), and my feelings have not changed: this building is about as ugly as ugly can be.
Originally posted by HPNJRUfan:
Said it from when they first unveiled the designs, have watched it get built (take a ride past it at least once or twice a week), and my feelings have not changed: this building is about as ugly as ugly can be.
Agreed.. really makes you wonder who is in charge and who sold them on the idea that it would be attractive and desirable.
Seeing that, I wonder if the glass oval building for College Ave is still secretly on the schedule despite all the opposition to the ugly thing.
BTW.. keep an eye on Devco.. they have a way of making nice pictures when they need to sell you on an idea.. but what they build ends up being different, and much more ugly.
Examples:
The "Golden Triangle" building was sold as a modern office building with street-level retail that would keep the corner of Albany and George up to the train station alive and kicking. The windows had a gold tint.. instead we got a giant parking deck and a standard white cement and black windows deal.
The new building on the other side of the tracks, the Rutgers side.. was never sold as having a giant ugly parking deck facing Easton Avenue... and they made sure they didn't show the giant shadow it cast most of the day. Their drawings showed the sun hitting the front of the building. which would seem to be a rare occurrence for late in the afternoon.
Don't trust Devco to build the building they sell you on.
Hey good old Rutgers ...golden triangle not built by Devxo and the building you obviously don't know the name of ...where do you expect the 287 people who live in the building, the hundreds that will work in building , and thousands who shop and dine to park ..,,,gateway and wellness look just like the renderings ...
Like most decisions made by Rutgers, they are made with little input for current students and alumni. If you want to see the minutes of the building committee of the Board of Governors, Alexander Library states the public has to wait 35 years to see them. Just look at what they did with the nursing building. Despite opposition from the founding dean, alumni and students, they put it downtown, nowhere near the other science courses.
I understand that parking is needed at the Gateway building, but I wonder if there might have been a handsomet way of providing it.
Let's just say it like this... it is one of the ugliest structures imaginable. It looks like a remnant of the "modern" style that the rest of Livingston was designed with, a style which has not stood the test of time, and which is already outdated. It looks like the child of a Russian government building and millenium falcon.
I will never understand why anything would be built other than in a classical style. Modern is, by its very nature a trend, and will always become outdated. The designers should be flogged, and the people who approved the design should be sent to pasture. They have capped off one of the ugliest, late-70's modern community college campuses with an eyesore whose monolithic size absolutely dominates the landscape. It isn't only ugly, it is monumentally ugly. And we will have to look at it until the day the aliens come out of the ground and fly it back to their mother planet.
I will never understand why anything would be built other than in a classical style. Modern is, by its very nature a trend, and will always become outdated. The designers should be flogged, and the people who approved the design should be sent to pasture. They have capped off one of the ugliest, late-70's modern community college campuses with an eyesore whose monolithic size absolutely dominates the landscape. It isn't only ugly, it is monumentally ugly. And we will have to look at it until the day the aliens come out of the ground and fly it back to their mother planet.
Additional background info on the RBS building project. Frankly, if I was the anonymous donor, I would be demanding my money back.
http://facilities.rutgers.edu/banner/RutgersBusinessSchoolNBnarrative.pdf
Ole Cabbagehead is on point with the description he provides. What ticks me off about the design is that it is supposed to be one of the anchor buildings for the campus AND it will inevitably be showcased for any outside shots of the RAC during basketball season. There are a few new buildings that have been added to the campus and that update the exterior of some of the facilities on the Livingston Campus. However, the designs do not show any cohesiveness or continuity.
http://facilities.rutgers.edu/banner/RutgersBusinessSchoolNBnarrative.pdf
Ole Cabbagehead is on point with the description he provides. What ticks me off about the design is that it is supposed to be one of the anchor buildings for the campus AND it will inevitably be showcased for any outside shots of the RAC during basketball season. There are a few new buildings that have been added to the campus and that update the exterior of some of the facilities on the Livingston Campus. However, the designs do not show any cohesiveness or continuity.
I think his point was that the exposed parking at Gateway isn't very attractive.
Also, some of the renderings never showed the full height of Gateway. Later ones did, but some cut off the top of the tower.
I live in a building with as many residents as Gateway; our parking is underground and completely invisible from the street. I'm not saying that was an option on the Gateway site, but it makes a huge difference.
Classical styles were also at one point trends. Hence not all buildings look like Roman temples.
As new materials (like for example, relatively cheap brick or steel or glass) come into play, new styles are built around them - there is nothing wrong with that. Its mostly about context. A building like UVa's Rotunda would look just as out of place on Livingston as this building. Maybe not so ugly, but just as inappropriate.
Its mostly the design (too out there for a college campus) and material (too drab, although I've heard it looks better in person) more than the use of a non-classic college look.
This post was edited on 7/26 8:47 AM by derleider
After seeing the design concept I definitely want to see this building in person. Will make a point of driving over to Livingston when I am up there for our first tailgate (don't want to wait until MBB season).
Wallked around College Ave, Busch, and Livingston yesterday, and I have to disagree with almost everyone here about the new Business School building. The sides of the building facing away from the campus are covered with stainless steel panels set at varying angles. What appear to be colored panels in the photos are actually light and shadows created by the panels. Approaching from Busch with the setting sun behind me, the play of light on the steel made the building look like one big sculpture.
The sides facing the campus are all glass. After dark, the building glowed. It lights up what could have been a dark corner. The steel structure, the staircases and even the elevator cars moving in their shafts are all visible. Seeing the activity inside makes the building much more interesting than looking at a brick wall. At 8 last night workmen were still inside trying to get it ready for the upcoming semester.
The building is the signature that the business school needed. It's different than any building I have seen, and will be remembered by most who visit. It's shape reflects it's function of anchoring the main corner of the new rectangular campus boundaries. I know that the design is controversial, but a building that evokes reactions (both negative and positive) is better than another pretty building that no one really notices.
The sides facing the campus are all glass. After dark, the building glowed. It lights up what could have been a dark corner. The steel structure, the staircases and even the elevator cars moving in their shafts are all visible. Seeing the activity inside makes the building much more interesting than looking at a brick wall. At 8 last night workmen were still inside trying to get it ready for the upcoming semester.
The building is the signature that the business school needed. It's different than any building I have seen, and will be remembered by most who visit. It's shape reflects it's function of anchoring the main corner of the new rectangular campus boundaries. I know that the design is controversial, but a building that evokes reactions (both negative and positive) is better than another pretty building that no one really notices.
