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OK here we go with the final full NCAA pecking order update heading into conference tournament week. Comments or jeers always welcomed

Here are the 32 projected automatic bid winners...




AMERICA EAST: Albany



AMERICAN: SMU



ATLANTIC 10: Davidson



ACC: Virginia



ATLANTIC SUN: North Florida



BIG 12: Kansas



BIG EAST: Villanova



BIG SKY: Montana



BIG SOUTH: Coastal Carolina



BIG 10: Wisconsin



BIG WEST: UC Davis



COLONIAL: Northeastern



CUSA: Louisiana Tech



HORIZON: Valparaiso



IVY: Harvard



MAAC: Manhattan



MAC: Central Michigan



MEAC: North Carolina Central



MVC: Northern Iowa



MWC: Boise State



NEC: St Francis NY



OHIO VALLEY: Belmont



PAC 12: Arizona



PATRIOT: Lafayette



SEC: Kentucky



SOUTHERN: Wofford



SOUTHLAND: Stephen F Austin



SWAC: Texas Southern



SUMMIT: South Dakota State



SUN BELT: Georgia State



WCC: Gonzaga

WAC: New Mexico State






26 schools that I have identified as at large locks....



Duke, Notre Dame, Louisville, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Iowa State, Baylor, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Maryland, Iowa, Michigan State, Ohio State, Purdue, Wichita State, Utah, Arkansas, Georgetown, Providence, Butler, St John's, Xavier, Dayton, Virginia Commonwealth, San Diego State, Cincinnati







that takes care of 58 of the 68 bids. There are about 19 schools competing for just 10 bids. Here is the bubble pecking order....

IN








1. (30) OREGON 22-8: While the Ducks do not necessarily have a distingushing profile, the fact that they do garner the 2nd seed in the Pac 12 tourney means a lot. Ducks finished 13-5 in league play by winning 12 of their last 14 and that's boosted that overall rpi number. The 8-6 record vs rpi 100 schools is strong...wins over Utah, and two bubbles UCLA and Ilinois but they are only 1-4 vs top 50 and that's why they remain just out of lock status. Note a loss to fellow bubble Ole Miss. They draw the winner of Colorado/Oregon State in the Pac 12 quarters. Ducks could make it academic with a win as a loss could make the vulnerable in a case of some tourney upsets





2. (38) GEORGIA 20-10: With 4 SEC bubbles battling it out heading into the SEC tourney, going to leave the Bulldogs short of locking them in the field just yet. They do seem to have a more consistent profile and the edge on the other 3 bubbles but the lack of big wins is still an issue. There are no top 25 wins here and just 2-5 vs top 50 with those wins both against Ole Miss. They beat Texas A&M but lost to LSU. The 9-8 vs top 100 rpi is their strong point OOC wise their best wins are schools like SHU and Kansas State. Had to face Kentucky 2x and lost both in competitive games. There are a few bad losses thrown in as well but that's not unusual around the bubble. They possibly draw Ole Miss in the SEC quarters, a win there would lock them in of course but if they don't things get a little murkier. They could be okay with such a weak bubble but you never know.





3. (48) LSU 22-9: Tigers followed a rough loss to Tennessee with a big road win at Arkansas to buoy their resume heading into the SEC tourney. A lot to like here in terms of wins....5-2 vs top 50 and a stellar 12-5 vs top 100 rpi schools. A win at WVU, a sweep of Ole Miss, a win over Georgia and a close loss to Kentucky. So why are they on the bubble instead of being locked in. Well its the bad losses...Missouri, Mississippi St, and Auburn plus the fact they got swept by another SEC bubble Texas A&M. Tigers have a bye in the first round of the SEC tourney but look who could be up next in the quarters....that's right Texas A&M. Could LSU survive a third loss to the Aggies who right now are on the wrong side of the bubble? They might but its going to be at the mercy of what happens with the other bubble schools. Tigers would be better off just emphatically stamping their ticket with a win in that game.





4. (45) OKLAHOMA STATE 17-12: Cowboys could not spring the upset at WVU and now with 5 losses in their last 6 they are in a serious tailspin. What was once an impressive profile now has some holes. The overall record could sport 13 losses, the road/neutral mark is just 6-8. You have two bad losses to TCU and Texas Tech. No one can take their wins away...6-8 vs top 50 and 8-10 vs top 100 are quite strong. The big win was Kansas but they swept Baylor. Important is the sweep over Texas and a win over Tulsa, two bubbles. The SOS of 19 will be seen as a huge plus. The committee is supposed to judge on body of work not how you finish in the season so lets see what happens here. Cowboys get Oklahoma in the Big 12 quarters and if they do not win that game they really are leaving it up to the judgment of the selection committee rather than the body of work.





5. (57) INDIANA 19-12: Hooisers are another team sputtering after building up an impressive resume. First the good....3 top 25 wins....4-8 vs top 50 and 8-11 vs top 100. Those numbers are good to go. Quality Big 10 wins against Maryland, Ohio State, and Illinois. Impressive OOC wins vs SMU and Butler. Only one loss outside the rpi top 100 to Northwestern. SOS is a fine 25. Like with OSU is it really body of work or does how you finish matter. Indiana has lost 8 of 12 and hasn't beaten a team with a pulse since mid January. The road/neutral mark is a woeful 4-8. The overall rpi of 57 is the worst of any school on the right side of the bubble currently. Coming in as the 7th seed in the Big 12 tourney, they will face a dangerous Northwestern again. Could their profile absorb another loss? Do they need to also beat Maryland to feel safe again? I think the answer to both questions is maybe. Indiana has allowed themselves to creep to a territory where if they do not win as much as possible there are reasons the committee can point to for leaving them out.





6. (49) MISSISSIPPI 20-11: Rebels ended the year by losing their last 3 of 4 including key games to LSU and Georgia which left them 0-4 vs those schools on the year. Clearly they have moved behind them in the pecking order. Still there is some good here. OOC wins over Cincy and at Oregon. SEC wins at Arkansas and over Tex A&M. While the 3-7 mark vs top 50 is iffy the 8-8 vs top 100 is solid enough. The SOS is a strong 39., 11-4 on the road. Three bad losses could haunt them...Western Kentucky, TCU, and Charleston Southern. Must be aware of the bubble Texas A&M lurking below them, that's why its important Ole Miss defeat Georgia in that SEC quarters matchup. While it might not elevate their profile over Georgia, it will be enough of a statement to keep them on the good side of the bubble. A loss opens up questions and like every other bubble school you just do not want that.





7. (44) BRIGHAM YOUNG: 23-8: Cougars flirted with disaster in the WCC quarters against Santa Clara but now after hammering Portland last night find themselves in the WCC finals matched up with Gonzaga. Can they do it again? I don't think BYU will lose much stock if they can play a competitive game. They handed the Zags just their 2nd loss of the season a couple weeks back. That win is a shining light on the Cougars resume which does not have a lot of beef. Just 1-3 vs top 50 and only 4-5 vs top 100. Best wins were Stanford, UMass, and St Marys all NIT schools. A few bad losses to the likes of Pepperdine2x and San Diego are dragging the overall rpi number. This is a team where I keep hearing about passing the eye test and its true. A loss tonight will put them on the last 4 in/last 4 out line no question but I think the Cougars need to worry more about schools from the AAC like a Tulsa or someone from the A10 like a Richmond knocking them out rather than a Power 5 school





8. (26) COLORADO STATE 25-5: Rams are the meh school of the bubble. Sure there is that gaudy win total of 25 and the insanely good overall rpi of 26 but you have to wonder can a team get in the tourney just by splitting with its two fellow top 50 rpi conference schools. Because that's all that is here..wins over Boise State and San Diego State. 2-2 vs top 50 and 6-2 vs top 100 but even there the best win was Georgia State. 15 of their 25 wins are top schools beyond 150 rpi. They got swept by mediocre Wyoming and have another bad loss to New Mexico. Still the NCAA selection committee does like the midmajor and that's what the Mountain West has become this year. Like BYU, the Rams need to worry about the Tulsas, ODUs and Richmonds of the world. If the Rams can get by Fresno State and beat San Diego State in the MWC semis I think they will lock in but failing to reach the tourney finals and they will be sweating a lot come 6 PM Selection Sunday.





9. (42) TEXAS 19-12: Longhorns were left for dead last week having lost 8 of 11 and dropping to 6-10 in Big 12 play but resuscitated their hopes big time with an unlikely win over Baylor and then by knocking off unpredictable Kansas State. Now all of sudden the strong schedule strength ranked 11th may pay off. Texas is just only 3-11 vs top 50 but that win over Baylor was needed to answer questions that the Longhorns were proving that they couldn't beat any top competition. The mark is just 6-12 vs top 100. There are some nice wins here though....Iowa, WVU, Baylor. Will the committee be true to their words...as asked before is the criteria they say they evaluate schools on the actual truth. If so then SOS for them should trump any late season slide. Texas will get another opportunity for a quality win vs Iowa State in the Big 12 tourney but they cannot afford a slip up vs Texas Tech in the opening round. The big question is do they need that win vs ISU, I would strongly suggest they get it.





10. (34) TEMPLE 22-9: Owls are still surviving off of that win over Kansas way back but may need a trip to the AAC finals to secure an at large bid. At just 2-7 vs top 50, the Owls have fallen behind SMU and Cincy in any AAC pecking order and have to worry about Tulsa right behind them. Tulsa is particularly a problem because they swept the Owls this year. The 7-8 mark vs top 100 is solid enough, they did split with Cincy. That win over Louisiana Tech is starting to look better. Only one real bad loss that in a rivalry game to Temple. Owls did have injuries earlier in the year. AAC quarters gives them Memphis which will not be an easy game, a loss there could really impact their hopes but the Owls may also have to pull off an upset of SMU. Perhaps the most bubblicious school of all.








OUT








11. (55) TEXAS A&M 20-10: Aggies have seen their stock plummet over the last two weeks. That's what happens when you cannot pick up a quality win and lose to NIT schools in the SEC. The best thing to say here is that there are no bad losses. No losses to school outside the top 100 rpi. However the only positives here are the two wins over LSU and despite that the Tigers have a much better profile to overcome those losses to come out ahead of the Aggies. Just 2-6 vs top 50, the 7-8 mark is full of medicore SEC schools and the best OOC win is Sam Houston State. Looking like after a game with MSU/Auburn the Aggies draw LSU once again. Its pretty much a must win for them, not sure that even puts them in the field, but with Kentucky looming after that its a tough go either way. A loss to LSU could prove fatal unless the bubble collapses around them.





12. (60) MIAMI 20-11: Hurricanes kept themselves alive heading into the ACC tourney with the win at Pitt. Still a lot of work to do. The feather in the cap win of course is the win at Duke. Wins over NC State and Illinois are solid but that makes just 2-7 vs top 50 and the mediocrity of the ACC doesn't make that 7-7 mark vs top 100 all that impressive. Then throw in 4 bad losses...Wake, FSU, Ga Tech and the worst of all that glaring 28 point loss to rpi 153 Eastern Kentucky. Their path in the ACC matches them up with the winner of WF/VT and then Notre Dame, will beating ND be enough, probably not so they will likely have to go out and beat Duke again and reach the ACC finals.





13. (52) UCLA 19-12: Bruins beat USC last week but have now seen themselves tumble from in the field to last team out. Hurting their profile is schools like Oregon State and Cal falling out of the top 100 and Stanford starting to hit the skids. Just 2-7 vs top 100 and now only 4-9 vs top 100. The Bruins can only ride a win over Utah and Oregon so far. Their best OOC win Long Beach State. While the SOS of 33 is really nice there just are not enough wins here at the moment. Plus note the simply abominable 3-11 road/neutral mark. Yet opportunity exists, if they can get by ASU in the Pac 12 quarters, Arizona awaits. A win there may not necessarily lock them in but its going to give them a strong argument to get in, something they simply do not have now. Will the Pac 12 only wind up with 3?





14. (36) OLD DOMINION 24-6: Monarchs staying in flight due to a weak bubble and some really nice OOC wins. LSU, VCU, La Tech, Georgia St, and Richmond....4 of whom are likely NCAA participants. That's 6-2 vs top 100, an excellent number for a mid major, a strong overall rpi of 36...that gaudy win total of 24 which could go to 26 if they get to the CUSA final. The obvious drawback here are the 5 conference losses in a terrible league. Only La Tech/UTEP have a pulse in this conference yet ODU lost to the likes of Middle Tennessee State, UAB, and Texas Southern. 15 of their wins are to schools plus 150 rpi. They are the most interesting team on the bubble. If any case can be made for a midmajor to go its them but how can a school from a 16th ranked conference that didn't win its regular season championship and didn't win its conference tournament get an at large bid. If they make the finals they better beat La Tech and just win the autobid.





15. (59) ILLINOIS 19-12: Illini are clearly in trouble following a missed opportunity to pick up a much needed quality win at Purdue. There just is not enough right now. 5-11 vs rpi top 100 does not get it done. There are some things to like here keeping their hopes alive though. A win over Baylor OOC, wins in league over Maryland, Purdue and at Michigan State. Much of the early season was hurt by an injury to their star player. Note losses to fellow bubbles Miami, Indiana and Oregon. The road/neutral mark of 5-10 is atrocious. Illiniois will simply have to make the Big 10 finals to get in. That means beating Michigan, then taking down top seeded Wisconsin and then either Iowa/Purdue. I don't think the Wisky win will be enough given their warts. Up to them to prove they are worthy.





16. (54) RICHMOND 19-12: Every year a school comes out of nowhere down the stretch to float near the bubble and the Spiders are that team this year. Nothing sensational here but when you beat VCU 2x and also have a win over regular season champ Davidson and grab the double bye in the A10 tourney as the 4 seed that's enough to be considered. Some strong scheduling too reflected in a SOS of 35. 3-5 vs top 50 and 7-9 vs top 100 are workable numbers. They are finishing strong with 6 straight wins. Ultimately though its the 3 bad losses that really hurt their profile....Wake, James Madison and George Mason. The Spiders best hope is to make it to the A10 finals meaning another win vs VCU and then taking down Davidson again. If they can do that, they will have a 50/50 chance of sneaking in





17. (47) TULSA 21-8: Heading into last week the Hurricane were first in the AAC but could not pick up a quality win against either Cincy or SMU and now are in serious trouble. There is just no flesh on their profile. Yes they finished 2nd in the AAC at 14-4 but all they have to show for it is two wins over Temple a team dangerously close to the Mendoza line themselves. Their best OOC win is Big East bottom feeder Creighton. While there is only one bad loss here Oral Roberts, the 2-6 mark vs top 50 and 5-7 vs top 100 does not seem enough. They will need to beat Houston/Tulane then knock off Cincy to reach the AAC finals. Beating Cincy will not elevate them over the Bearcats either so Tulsa may just have to win the whole damn tournament at this point.





18. (58) STANFORD 18-12: Perhaps no bubble school's stock has plummeted more in the last month than that of the Cardinal. Losers of 7 of 10 including 3 in a row, there isn't much to recommend here anymore. There is the win over a shaky Texas and I guess you can say that win over Wofford who is dancing and now in the rpi top 50 is nice but beyond that you see 2 losses to UCLA plus losses to bubbles Oregon and BYU. 2-6 vs top 50 and only 5-9 vs top 100. Bad losses to Washington State and Colorado., a poor 5-9 road/neutral mark. A 9-9 record in a Pac 12 that has fallen on hard times. To even have a shot they will need a run to the Pac 12 finals meaning wins against Washington, Utah, and Oregon. Seems pretty unlikely but if they do that then we will revisit their chances.





19. (70) MURRAY STATE 25-5: Heartbreaking defeat to Belmont in the Ohio Valley final, that after going undefeated in league play, winning 24 in a row and cracking the AP top 25. However as much as people want to give credit to them and thrown them a bone as an at large team in the NCAA tournament. The resume says otherwise. Look they had an outstanding season but you cannot lose to a medicore Belmont in your biggest game of the season. If some other things were strong on their resume perhaps a case could be made. The Racers best win is Illinois State who is headed to the NIT and that is their only top 100 rpi win. In their two other games against legit competition they lost by 27 to Xavier and 35 to Horizon leader Valpo. They have a hideous loss to AAC bottom feeder Houston and another bad loss to Portland. Looking at the losses moreso than the wins here. 21 of those wins were to schools with rpis over 150 and 13 of them to schools over 250. The OVC is the 23rd ranked conference. Murray State may have blown through their conference competition but came up small against their non conference foes where one needs to look to see if they are worthy of an at large. Other schools like La Tech, ODU, BYU, Colorado State, Richmond, and Tulsa all have played better competition and beat them so I don't see how or why Murray State would deserve to go in over any of those type of schools



LAST 4 IN: TEMPLE, TEXAS, COLORADO STATE, BRIGHAM YOUNG
LAST 4 OUT: TEXAS A&M, MIAMI, UCLA, OLD DOMINION





Multiple Bid Leagues





Big 10: 7
Big 12: 7
Big East: 6
ACC: 6
SEC: 5
A10: 3
Pac 12: 3
AAC: 3
MWC: 3
MVC: 2
WCC: 2



This post was edited on 3/10 12:42 PM by bac2therac
 
Very good and thorough analysis. Here's a a nit. Not sure why Xavier is a lock. I think the BE is over-rated and Xavier had some very bad OC losses. One could argue that Indiana is better and they're only on your bubble.
 
Good question

there were a group of schools.....NC State, Ohio State, Dayton, Cincinnati, Purdue, and Xavier that could have been on my bubble list. However with such weakness on the other side of the bubble..only about 9 schools on the other side and only maybe 4 or 5 seriously in the running I felt that those 6 schools really had enough on their resume where if they sustained a loss in the conference tournament it would not make a difference. I think when the field went to 68 it took a lot of the drama out. With 4 more lesser profiles to consider it waters down the analysis.

I don't buy into the talk that Purdue has anything to worry about it. They have done so much at 12-6 in the Big 10 getting a double bye. Ohio State I really considered keeping on the bubble..really they don't have much to their resume except a win over Maryland but they did not suffer a bad loss all year long and finished strong enough in the Big 10.

With Xavier while they do have those bad losses they have so many great wins and top 100 wins. 2 wins over Georgetown, wins over Butler and Providence, a win at Cincy, a win over SF Austin who is likely NCAA bound, a win over Murray State . Losses to Auburn, Creighton and De Paul hurt but like with Purdue the many wins they have I think negates those factors. 4-4 vs top 25, 6-6 vs top 50 and 9-8 vs top 100....plus a SOS of 22...I cant imagine any bubble school not projected in coming close to that profileThey face Butler in the first round of the BE tourney where they will not be favored, I don't see how losing to a top 30 rpi school will be a negative on their profile.

Indiana's trouble focus on their poor finish and while that's not supposed to be a criteria, its starting to effect their overall rpi numbers more than any other bubble school. I think the wins are there but if they drop that game against Northwestern they have left themselves open to be left out.

With a school like Georgia I kept them just outside the bubble because of too much uncertainty with the SEC...4 bubble schools and all are seeded against each other in the quarterfinals.
 
Once again better than many if not most of the other bracket posters! Well done. My minor quibble is Indiana and the over rating of leagues. PAC 12 has had two of the top eight teams in the country in Arizona and Utah plus the underrated Oregon. Indiana is in a free fall and that's okay. Stanford is in a similar fall and they are not worthy of consideration. Washington only fell apart after best player was kicked off team. UCLA is a viable candidate but for the East Coast and Midwest bias. BYU's RPI will shoot up after Gonzaga game so they should be in as well.
 
Indiana 19-12 rpi 57 SOS 25 3-4 vs top 25 4-8 vs top 50 8-11 vs top 100 1 loss to top 100 plus


UCLA 19-12 rpi 52 SOS 33 1-6 vs top 25 2-7 vs top 50 4-9 vs top 100 3 losses to top 100 plus


Stanford 18-12 rpi 58 SOS 53 0-4 vs top 25 2-6 vs top 50 5-9 vs top 100 3 losses to top 100 plus


Best wins

Indiana: Maryland, SMU, Butler, Ohio State, Illinois

UCLA: Utah, Oregon, Stanford, Stanford

Stanford: Texas, Wofford


the stats speak for themselves
 
I guess my general problem with the BE this year is that they have so few good out of conference wins. Most of their teams' quality wins are within the conference and I'm not sold on the conference as a whole. For example, Nova is by far the best team in the BE and it's 2 most notable non-conference wins are Michigan and VCU - neither of which are ranked. SJU's best win OC is against a mediocre Cuse team. Compare that to MD's neutral site OC win over # 13 Iowa St., Indiana's road win at #22 Butler, Iowa's win over #19 UNC, Wisconsin's win over #23 G-town, etc. You get the point. I guess the NCAA tournament will tell just how good the BE is.
 
Are we doing the scarlet nation ESPN bracket challenge again this year?
 
Originally posted by bac2therac:

Indiana 19-12 rpi 57 SOS 25 3-4 vs top 25 4-8 vs top 50 8-11 vs top 100 1 loss to top 100 plus


UCLA 19-12 rpi 52 SOS 33 1-6 vs top 25 2-7 vs top 50 4-9 vs top 100 3 losses to top 100 plus


Stanford 18-12 rpi 58 SOS 53 0-4 vs top 25 2-6 vs top 50 5-9 vs top 100 3 losses to top 100 plus


Best wins

Indiana: Maryland, SMU, Butler, Ohio State, Illinois

UCLA: Utah, Oregon, Stanford, Stanford

Stanford: Texas, Wofford


the stats speak for themselves
I think my issue and what the bracket people don't want to hear is the intangibles and the eye test. Indiana certainly does not look like a tourney team. Not sure Ok State and Ole Miss do either. Davidson has met that test and went from not getting in to now a favorite to even win their own tourney in little over two weeks! Oregon is now safely in. BYU should be.
 
Originally posted by RU-ROCS:
I guess my general problem with the BE this year is that they have so few good out of conference wins. Most of their teams' quality wins are within the conference and I'm not sold on the conference as a whole. For example, Nova is by far the best team in the BE and it's 2 most notable non-conference wins are Michigan and VCU - neither of which are ranked. SJU's best win OC is against a mediocre Cuse team. Compare that to MD's neutral site OC win over # 13 Iowa St., Indiana's road win at #22 Butler, Iowa's win over #19 UNC, Wisconsin's win over #23 G-town, etc. You get the point. I guess the NCAA tournament will tell just how good the BE is.
You have to keep in mind that Nova's win over VCU was also when they had their starting PG. They have fallen off badly since losing him.Also Butler beat North Carolina and Providence beat Notre Dame.
 
last night Gonzaga knocked off BYU to win the WCC tourney. BYU played admirably but never really threatened in the last 6-7 minutes. They still are projected in the field but now have left things up entirely to what happens around the bubble and how much the committee weighs their prior win over Gonzaga

two games going on right now with bubble implications...Miami leading Va Tech and Texas leading Texas Tech in tourney action



LAST 4 IN: TEMPLE, TEXAS, BRIGHAM YOUNG, COLORADO STATE
LAST 4 OUT: TEXAS A&M, MIAMI, UCLA, OLD DOMINION
 
Wow Old Dominion and Texas A&M about to go down in their first round of their conference tourneys...along with Illinois can you say 3 bubbles popping today

This post was edited on 3/12 5:42 PM by bac2therac
 
updating some stuff...

Michigan waxed Illinois and the Illini are simply finished at this point. You cant really make a case for inclusion....5-12 vs top 100 schools just does not do it.

Texas A&M suffered a devastating loss in their SEC opener by blowing a lead and losing to Auburn. Now it may be their only bad loss outside the top 100 rpi but they simply could not afford to drop yet another game on a profile that is lacking in wins....2-6 vs top 50 with those wins both over LSU. I would not say they are totally out of it but there are more reasons to keep them out than to put them in.

Old Dominion lost in the CUSA quarters...a 2nd loss this year to Middle Tennessee State and that gives them a whopping 5 losses to schools higher than 150 in the rpi. I don't care what they did non conference. The CUSA is an awful conference and does not deserve two at this point. Murray State just went ahead of them in the pecking order and you know how I feel about them.

UCLA walloped USC to move them in to the Pac quarters but they will simply have to beat Arizona to have any shot of getting at large bid.

Boise State the projected MWC winner got by Air Force to reach the quarters. Should they not win the tournament and what happened with those earlier losses around the bubble, its looking more and more likely they should be dancing no matter what.

In games going on now Texas is up 11 over Iowa State in the first half of the Big 12 quarters...a win for Texas and they are most likely in.

Indiana up 11 on Northwestern. I think a win here should be good enough for them given what is happening. I wouldn't lock them in but it would be hard to see something happening to knock them out of the good side of the bubble


With todays results thus far, I am going to project two schools in who didn't even play....Georgia and Oregon are now locks....that takes care of 60 of the 68 bids leaving just 8 bids remaining



LAST 4 IN: TEMPLE, TEXAS, BRIGHAM YOUNG, COLORADO STATE
LAST 4 OUT: MIAMI, UCLA, TEXAS A&M, TULSA

 
an unbelievable finish in the Big 12 quarters.....Texas up 10 with about 5 minutes to go couldn't make a fg for the final 7 minutes, imploding with bad shots and a plethora of mistakes down the stretch and ISU drained a shot at the buzzer.

Texas would have punched their ticket with the win but now what. I think they are most bubblicious right now and it could go either way...sweating time now and they have to root against schools like Miami and UCLA making runs
 
Miami looking awful. Mississippi and Oregon losing early. Texas lost. If Ok State loses to Oklahoma? Helps UCLA, BYU?
 
Bac - If UConn wins their tourney, will the committee then knock out Temple being they're in the same conference?
 
Originally posted by BigEastPhil:

Bac - If UConn wins their tourney, will the committee then knock out Temple being they're in the same conference?
Phil...I think Temple would be a team in trouble for sure but any of the those on the last 4 in online could get hurt....BYU, Colorado State, Texas......I really don't think the AAC deserves 4...I don't think Tulsa gets in unless it wins the conference tourney. Temple is in a tough spot but if they beat Cincy and make the finals and lose to UConn at least they will have another needed top 50 win to help. I think Cincy is in no matter what. Supposedly conference affiliation is not looked at all and number of teams but Temple has a shaky resume and are living off that Kansas win

Id be shocked if UConn wins it all though even playing at home.
 
In a wild game, Ole Miss hits a 3 to rally a take lead with 4 seconds only to foul a SC player shooting a 3 with one second left and lose the game 60-58. This is simply a crushing defeat for Ole Miss, one that they really could not afford if they wanted to feel safe. They do have 4 quality wins...Arky, Oregon, Cincy and Texas A&M but right now they have their fate in the hands of the selection committee. They had better hope that UCLA does not beat Arizona tomorrow.


Oklahoma State played Oklahoma tough but fell apart late. They finish the season losing 6 of 7 but the committee says body of work and body of work has them 6-9 vs top 50 and 8-11 vs top 100. Even with the hideous 17-13/8-11 mark they should be in but they will be playing that first night.

Miami fell behind, rallied but lost anyway to Notre Dame. Cant see any scenario that gets them in. 2-8 vs top 50, just didn't get it done when they needed to.


So 6 serious bubble schools lost today

Mississippi
Oklahoma State
Illinois
Texas A&M
Old Dominion
Miami


this is why I say weak bubble... I felt 64..actualy 65...the addition of 3 more at larges has watered everything done, the bubble is falling apart at its foundation right now. There is not much on the other side of the bubble right now so we will see what happens.

With the Ole Miss loss I am now projecting LSU in as a lock meaning 61 of 68 slots are accounted for and only 7 bids remain. I think Indiana is all but in right now but will wait to see what happens tomorrow. I do not think they have to beat Maryland to get in. With others schools floundering today below them, they really helped themselves just by avoiding that miscue against Northwestern.


LAST 4 IN: TEMPLE, TEXAS, MISSISSIPPI, BRIGHAM YOUNG
LAST 4 OUT: UCLA, TEXAS A&M, MIAMI, TULSA



still two more games to come tonight. Stanford-Utah and Colorado St-Fresno St
 
recapping the late action....Colorado State took care of business against Fresno State to advance to the Mountain West semis against San Diego State. A win there would lock them in but will a lose hurt them..probably not but it could move them to a play in game

Stanford was waxed by Utah and they are pretty much headed to the NIT

Just 7 spots remain and here is the bubble pecking order coming into Friday's games

IN

1. Indiana
2. Colorado State
3. Oklahoma State
4. Brigham Young
5. Mississippi
6. Texas
7. Temple

OUT

8.UCLA
9. Texas A&M
10. Miami
11. Tulsa
12. Richmond
13. Murray State
14. Old Dominion
15. Stanford


LAST 4 IN: TEMPLE, TEXAS, MISSISSIPPI, BRIGHAM YOUNG
LAST 4 OUT: UCLA, TEXAS A&M, MIAMI, TULSA
 
Will be curious if groundswell for Murray State like VCU. Sometimes committee likes stirring it up but at whose expense. Still think they will want geographical balance so BYU and UCLA gets in if they play Arizona somewhat close. Mississippi no sure thing.
 
Murray State's only shot is if Tulsa and Temple both lose in the AAC quarters and UCLA loses to Arizona and Richmond loses in the A10 quarters. Other than that I really cant see them getting in...how they fared against two tournament teams in Xavier and Valpo says it all....30 point blowouts.
 
Davidson averts an upset loss to La Salle by hitting a shot at the buzzer. If there was any doubt of them making the NCAA as an at large, that has been removed.
 
If anyone had a notion that Purdue was in trouble they ended that discussion by gutting out a win over Penn St...I think Lunardi was a little off and promoting Big 10 bashing by espn...also think Indiana is a victim of this

Meanwhile Temple avoided a catastrophic loss by holding on to beat Memphis. If they can take down SMU they will lock in...if not they may sweat a little especially if richmond and UCLA keep winning

Richmond leading VCU by 3 late...could be the third win over tanking VCU this year...a team that is awful right now and the Spiders can be a legit bubble team if they beat Davidson tomorrow
 
And Auburn continues their Cinderella run beating LSU in Ot to set up a date with Kentucky in the SEC semis....I projected LSU as a lock last night...still think they are in...they have 13 wins vs rpi top 100 even with their bad losses...but now like Ole Miss may have to play in the first 4
 
Temple has to be a lock at this point. If they are not in the group of 68 they would have to be (one of) the best combination of RPI and SOS ever left out.
 
Good BAC! LSU, Mississippi, A&M, awful! Can we admit SEC isn't all that!!!
 
Temple is not a lock...only 2 quality wins..they most likely are in but if Tulsa wins the AAC tourney Temple could be in trouble...they need to beat SMU to feel secure

This post was edited on 3/13 11:19 PM by bac2therac
 
The SEC is a bad conference and has been for years...a one or two trick pony of Kentucky and Florida and this year just Kentucky. The league is garbage....that being said they will get 5 bids...KY, Arky, Ga, Ole Miss, and LSU
 
Boatright drains a 3...UConn advances to semis to play Tulsa...what a sham this tourney is held on their home court...still alive as bid stealer..Temple needs to be worried. Cincy is locked in
 
Wyoming about to beat Boise sending the Broncos to the at large pool where they should be okay. Colorado State would do themselves well to beat San Diego State. I am skeptical about this cobference getting 4 if Wyoming wins the championship tomorrow
 
As expected... UConn wins! So AAC SMU and Cincy... Maybe Temple, Tulsa and UConn! Great Bubble! 4 bid league!

As expected UCLA gives Arizona fits.... deserves a bid! Arizona, Oregon and Utah! 4 bid league! Great bubble!

Over-rated MWC just like last year! Bye Bye Boise! Helluva Interesting bubble!
 
Boise is probably in...solid resume and won MWC regular season....UCLA is done. Only 5 rpi top 100 wins will not get it done. Pac 12 only 3. Either the AAC or Mountain West could get 4 but Tulsa and UConn probably have to win tourney to get in

This post was edited on 3/13 11:36 PM by bac2therac
 
And Colorado State falls to San Diego State...not a bad loss but niw the Rams sit bubblicious with a rather meh resume...a gaudy win totals but not alot of beef. Must root against Wyoming today
 
okay here is the update heading into today's important action

San Diego State is now projected as the MWC champion replacing Boise State who now goes back into the at large pool. If Wyoming beats San Diego State to grab the autobid it will steal one bid from the at large bubble list


60 of 68 bids accounted for

IN

1. Oklahoma State
2. Brigham Young
3. Boise State
4. Indiana
5. Texas
6. Temple
7. Colorado State
8. Mississippi

OUT

9.UCLA
10. Tulsa
11. Texas A&M
12. Miami
13. Murray State
14. Rhode Island
15. Old Dominion
16. Illinois
17. Stanford
18. Richmond


LAST 4 IN: MISSISSIPPI, COLORADO STATE, TEMPLE, TEXAS
LAST 4 OUT: UCLA, TULSA, TEXAS A&M, MIAMI
 
Davidson now on back in the at large pool..they will be dancing though

URI is finished

Temple loses to SMU and now waits nervously

UConn has tied Tulsa late in a sham of a tourney in Hartford
 
BAC: "UConn has no chance" Might want to take that BAC! ;-)

Wyoming wins! MWC two years in a row most over-rated conference in America!

Fascinating bubble and as cool as that it... seeding even more interesting!
 
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