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If we really want to expand the fan base, play two premier games in MSG and two in WFC. Split the rest of games in Prudential and Jadwin.
 
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A couple questions I’d love to know the answers to are:
-What exactly is being done?
-Estimated cost of the project?
-Doing it in 2 phases where you go 3/6/23 through as late as 1/5/24, then take a hiatus for 2 months (at least around game days) until 3/4/24 so we can host 9 conference games in the RAC. This will add how much time and money to the project?

If we don’t play at the RAC, to help ease the burden on the fanbase I hope the league will give us extra Saturday and Sunday home games. 6-7 on a weekend, yes it’s possible, most on Saturday.
OOC, as someone else said, sounds great to play in some early season specials, plus schedule a marquee or somewhat local team in games at MSG and WFC and possibly Barclays. Villanova, St John’s, Even UConn at that place in Long Island. You can pull a big name to come this way and play in a big venue. UNC, Gonzaga, Baylor, etc etc. Sounds exciting if done well!
 
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WTF are they going to do renovations wise that cannot be completed between March 15 to November 1? Thats 7+ months. We built the god damn empire state building ground up in 1 year
Exactly, even add a month on either end if you have to but no way should they play a whole season off campus.
 

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Unless we blow out the sides or remove the roof it will not impact the noise. And to do either one of those would be more expensive than building a new arena. In other words it’s not happening.
It is well known that the side court seating is at such an angle that it would not be allowed to be built that way today

my fear is if that if the expanding/renovation is too involved, we would be required to redo the side seating, and eliminate the seating as it is now
 

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Taking subway weekly would be costly, imagine all the weapons would have to buy and get trained for.
They wouldn't play the majority of games at Barclay. Probably won't play any, so no need to get lathered up about the subway.
 
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WTF are they going to do renovations wise that cannot be completed between March 15 to November 1? Thats 7+ months. We built the god damn empire state building ground up in 1 year
Yeah, and only a dozen people died and hundreds injured or maimed.
 
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Guys, you need your head examined if you think we would play more than a one-off at Barclays. We would draw flies, as our fan base isn’t going to commute upwards of 2 hours for 15 plus games, not to mention our students.

Why are people even thinking this is a possibility?!
 

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Games are 2 hours. Not 3 like the NFL and not 3+ like MLB and don’t have 2 intermissions like NHL and certainly not 4 hours like NCAAF.

why are we doing this! I thought there was extra revenue from B1G. Is this really all about money?

I leave my seat on average once and that is to pee as the ref blows the whistle to a media time out.
 

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Why are we doing this?

As part of a 20-year, $28 million deal, the home to the Scarlet Knights’ basketball, wrestling, gymnastics and women’s volleyball teams will be called Jersey Mike’s Arena.

The contract includes an opt-out for Jersey Mike’s that can be executed in July 2029 if Rutgers does not “substantially renovate” the 8,000-seat, trapezoid-shaped arena or built a new one by July 1, 2028.

 
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Play at the barn and season tickets holders get to go to half the home games and have a massive home court advantage.
Let's go with the assumption that we need to leave the RAC for one season (not sure if it's true, but I'm going with it..for argument sake).
It's a given that we will have a fraction of the attendance if we are not at the RAC.
Then the question becomes:

How much greater is our anticipated attendance at Pru/Jadwin/Cure vs Max Capacity at the Barn. Also when factoring the revenue we would give up when it's not our building where does that land us?

Every game at the Barn would be a sell out.
Every game at anywhere that is not the RAC would be some fractional capacity. (not the max capacity of Cure etc... it doesn't matter it won't fill up).
That's what needs to be compared.

Also my question to other season ticket holders.

Would you rather be able to go to as many games as you want in a given season at (Pru/Jadwin/Cure). Or rotate approx 1/2 at the Barn?
 
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They should play closer to campus but Brooklyn is great. A lot of food options near the arena and the train is right outside. Could do worse for a handful of games
Thered be maybe 1500 RU fans a game in brooklyn. Rutgers Maine in Brooklyn, o/u 500 fans?
 

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Why are we doing this?

As part of a 20-year, $28 million deal, the home to the Scarlet Knights’ basketball, wrestling, gymnastics and women’s volleyball teams will be called Jersey Mike’s Arena.

The contract includes an opt-out for Jersey Mike’s that can be executed in July 2029 if Rutgers does not “substantially renovate” the 8,000-seat, trapezoid-shaped arena or built a new one by July 1, 2028.

Who gives a fvck. Tell mike to hold this meat. The RAC doesnt need to be renovated in the first place. If he has a problem, take his name off the building
 
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The issue would probably the playability of B1G games at that venue. Camera crews, media accessibility, locker rooms, etc.
 

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Let's go with the assumption that we need to leave the RAC for one season (not sure if it's true, but I'm going with it..for argument sake).
It's a given that we will have a fraction of the attendance if we are not at the RAC.
Then the question becomes:

How much greater is our anticipated attendance at Pru/Jadwin/Cure vs Max Capacity at the Barn. Also when factoring the revenue we would give up when it's not our building where does that land us?

Every game at the Barn would be a sell out.
Every game at anywhere that is not the RAC would be some fractional capacity. (not the max capacity of Cure etc... it doesn't matter it won't fill up).
That's what needs to be compared.

Also my question to other season ticket holders.

Would you rather be able to go to as many games as you want in a given season at (Pru/Jadwin/Cure). Or rotate approx 1/2 at the Barn?
This. The barn has a capacity of 2500. Just play in the barn for a season if you cant find a crew to do this work in 7 months and instead they need 19 months to throw in some toilets and build some rooms. Its amazing to me how they cant get this done in 7 months
 

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All of these contractors, and construction specialists on this thread. lol.

none of Yal know the plan or how extensive it may be, yet you all have the answers. lol.

I trust Hobbs and his team more than any of you “insiders” or “everything is the end of the world folks”.

I would go on a limb and say that if ANY AD at any college is exploring playing away from thei home arena for a whole year, then they absolutely had to do it.

on top of that, I trust the coaches to have plans for recruiting in those cases.

If any recruit can’t see past a one year hiatus from the RAC, just to ensure to building is suitable for the current era of athletes and fans, then they probably weren’t meant to Scarlet Knights.

This upgrade should be welcomed with open arms , and we should all be just antsy to see what the plans are.
 

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Love the RAC, but salivating over the thought of some sold out games at The Barn. Could you imagine Michigan or Indiana coming into The Barn with 2500 screaming people right on top of them?

It's the only acceptable move vs Pru/Trenton/Princeton

Hell Rutgers could probably even raise the prices for that season a certain percentage and still sell out the Barn
 
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The upgrade is designed for the people and entities who will be displacing many of the fans who post here. It is designed for people who probably don't even know who Cliff and Paul are.
Nobody who posts here uses a bathroom or orders a drink or food?
 
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I think we’re past the days of 500 fans as long as the team is decent. The Eddie-era teams would draw 500-1000 at the RAC and I’d rather watch this team in Missouri than go back to that. If they made Barclays games fairly high profile Saturday afternoon games they’d get a decent turnout, maybe 2-3000, which I don’t think would be that different from other non-RAC/Pru/MSG venues (my preferences in order).



One-offs at the Barn would be cool but a whole season would be absolutely miserable. Not well set up for modern media, would cut out 50%+ of our season ticket holders (not even giving them the option to buy), no parking (I can’t believe the Newark parking complaints here are being followed by suggestions to play at the Barn for a year). It just wouldn’t work for that many games.
A full season at the barn is far more enjoyable than a full season at the rock
 
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Let's go with the assumption that we need to leave the RAC for one season (not sure if it's true, but I'm going with it..for argument sake).
It's a given that we will have a fraction of the attendance if we are not at the RAC.
Then the question becomes:

How much greater is our anticipated attendance at Pru/Jadwin/Cure vs Max Capacity at the Barn. Also when factoring the revenue we would give up when it's not our building where does that land us?

Every game at the Barn would be a sell out.
Every game at anywhere that is not the RAC would be some fractional capacity. (not the max capacity of Cure etc... it doesn't matter it won't fill up).
That's what needs to be compared.

Also my question to other season ticket holders.

Would you rather be able to go to as many games as you want in a given season at (Pru/Jadwin/Cure). Or rotate approx 1/2 at the Barn?
I first want to know if I am obligated to buy seasons tickets to maintain my longevity points
I assume not
I would then prefer to buy occasional tickets if in Newark
 
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A full season at the barn is far more enjoyable than a full season at the rock
We wouldn’t play 15 games there but your commute =/= the fan base’s commute, nor does the trip from Rutgers to Barclays (which would probably be the bigger issue than the fan base TBH). As mentioned, Barclays is as close or closer than the RAC to large population centers in NJ plus NYC.
Lmfao
 

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Barclays is about the same amount of time from Newark as the RAC, and is closer to Hoboken and Jersey City.
If you're traveling by helicopter maybe. It's 35 minutes on train from Newark to NB. You think you can get to Barclays from Newark in under an hour???

Not that it matters -- your premise is that the average Rutgers bball fan lives in Newark. Most live in central jersey. Even for people like me who live in North Jersey it's far easier to drive an hour to the RAC than dealing with 2 hours of public transportation to Brooklyn.
 

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Doesn't the Big10 have a minimum seating capacity requirement? I'd be shocked if you could just move conference games to the Barn, or Big East games to Walsh in Seton Hall's case.
 
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This. The barn has a capacity of 2500. Just play in the barn for a season if you cant find a crew to do this work in 7 months and instead they need 19 months to throw in some toilets and build some rooms. Its amazing to me how they cant get this done in 7 months

Various on line sites say the Barn fits 3,200 Is that no longer the case?
 

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Right now, the trip from Newark to Barclays is 47 minutes. 1 PATH train and 1 subway. Couldn’t be easier, so yes, I know that you can make it from Newark to Barclays in under an hour.

I never said the average Rutgers basketball fan lives in Newark, you should re-read that to understand better. I said that the trip from Newark, Hoboken, and Jersey City (along with NYC) is shorter to Barclays than the RAC, which is generally accurate. Newark is probably slightly shorter on weeknights with the express trains, assuming you time the trip right with the less frequent NEC trains vs. PATH/MTA.

Given the sizes of those population centers and their surrounding areas, it’s reasonable to assume many Rutgers grads live in those areas, and would have as easy of a time or an easier time getting to Brooklyn vs. the RAC, without it taking 2 hours like you’re claiming. This is all disregarding that you are still allowed to drive into Brooklyn, although it’s more of a challenge (again, especially on weeknights).

If the argument is the RAC is the best option, I’d 100% agree with that. But nobody here is debating Barclays vs. the RAC, it’s compared to other options. In lieu of the RAC, Barclays is not anywhere near as impossible to get to as most here are claiming. Probably more difficult for many fans going to games currently, but there would be alums going to games who are currently unable to due to their own long trips to the RAC (although again, it wouldn’t be like the RAC, nor would any other option).
Give it up. Barclays would be a HORRIBLE venue for us, and would easily be a 2-hour commute for a majority of our fan base. It’s not even in the conversation. It’s The Rock, Trenton, or Jadwin.
 

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Give it up. Barclays would be a HORRIBLE venue for us, and would easily be a 2-hour commute for a majority of our fan base. It’s not even in the conversation. It’s The Rock, Trenton, or Jadwin.
I’m confident P. Hobbs is smart enough to realize Brooklyn is a debacle for us and that he’ll do everything he can to move few to no home games off of the Livingston campus.
 

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Unless a majority of our fan base is South Jersey or further, wouldn’t be 2 hours for the majority. I’m still saying it’ll be Prudential unless they can’t work out the scheduling, but again, a couple of weekend games at Barclays wouldn’t be the end of the world for anyone capable of using Google Maps.
Geez, give it up is right. It’s clear that virtually nobody wants to go to Brooklyn! My preferences would be Jadwin, Rock, Trenton in that order.
 
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