BOG

[bac2therac]

We know Barchi could care less about athletics but he is not alone. Why do these idiots on the BOG and to a lesser extent the BOT continue to be immune from criticism. If there is one constant over the past two decades its been them. I don't know the tenure of the members or who they even are but I would assume some have been here for more than one athletic director and coach. Barchi is only one part of the problem. The BOG is the one that signs off on everything and they are the ones who have hid themselves from any scrutiny.

 

[Rufaninga]

We know Barchi could care less about athletics but he is not alone. Why do these idiots on the BOG and to a lesser extent the BOT continue to be immune from criticism. If there is one constant over the past two decades its been them. I don't know the tenure of the members or who they even are but I would assume some have been here for more than one athletic director and coach. Barchi is only one part of the problem. The BOG is the one that signs off on everything and they are the ones who have hid themselves from any scrutiny.

You are 100% correct! Should find out how long tenure is, and how members are selected. Get behind those that want both big time athletics and academics.

 

[KingHigh]

We know Barchi could care less about athletics but he is not alone. Why do these idiots on the BOG and to a lesser extent the BOT continue to be immune from criticism. If there is one constant over the past two decades its been them. I don't know the tenure of the members or who they even are but I would assume some have been here for more than one athletic director and coach. Barchi is only one part of the problem. The BOG is the one that signs off on everything and they are the ones who have hid themselves from any scrutiny.

The Board of Governors does not sign off on everything. They're there to provide direction and their executives do what they need to do on a day to day basis to get the job done. If their executives are ineffective in carrying out their direction, then new executives are put in place that is the way it works.

 

[bac2therac]

well they certain signed off on Uncle Bob getting canned for no apparent reason didn't they. They sign off on not bothering to view the Rice tapes or be concerned about it.

 

[KingHigh]

well they certain signed off on Uncle Bob getting canned for no apparent reason didn't they. They sign off on not bothering to view the Rice tapes or be concerned about it.

It's not their job to look at the make rice tapes. It's their job to put to good use the very reasons they were put on the board in the first place. That would be to leverage their fundraising capabilities, or their unique business acumen in developing university-wide strategies, for special connections they have in government or business that could be of use to the University. I'm sure they are consulted at times during crisis on the ground, but that is not their job. What I can say in agreement with you is their role is to get rid of ineffective officers and if they have not done so it suggests they are either not taking their job seriously, for they are not dissatisfied with the performance of the officers

 

[vkj91]

Yet you guys love Brown because he donated a room.

 

[RUJMM78]

I have never believed that NJ is a supporter of big time college athletics as compared to other states .Rutgers has been part of the Big East and now the B1G and attendance and financial support has been up an down and the best recruits prefer playing out of state.Its a reflction of indifference trying to get a bigger paycheck but unwilling to make the investments in coaching staffs and facilities to be successful.

The BOG clearly is more concerned about academics which is understandable but there still needs to be a better understanding on their part toward the importance of athletics in improving the perception of the University which than translates to higher donor contributions.

 

[RocktheRac]

The BOG is like the secret government on X Files and the Blacklist.

 

[koleszar]

It's not their job to look at the make rice tapes. It's their job to put to good use the very reasons they were put on the board in the first place. That would be to leverage their fundraising capabilities, or their unique business acumen in developing university-wide strategies, for special connections they have in government or business that could be of use to the University. I'm sure they are consulted at times during crisis on the ground, but that is not their job. What I can say in agreement with you is their role is to get rid of ineffective officers and if they have not done so it suggests they are either not taking their job seriously, for they are not dissatisfied with the performance of the officers

Just a question is it the BOG in charge of money distributions to different aspects of the university? Because to tell you the truth I don't really know how the hierarchy of the RU administration works. Are Barchi's hands tied so he has to tie Herman's. Or can Barchi request funds from the BOG for certain missions he would like to obtain? Would really like to know a little about the inner workings. Then I would know where to properly place my anger and who to write to. Thanks in advance for any info you could provide.

 

[KingHigh]

Just a question is it the BOG in charge of money distributions to different aspects of the university? Because to tell you the truth I don't really know how the hierarchy of the RU administration works. Are Barchi's hands tied so he has to tie Herman's. Or can Barchi request funds from the BOG for certain missions he would like to obtain? Would really like to know a little about the inner workings. Then I would know where to properly place my anger and who to write to. Thanks in advance for any info you could provide.

I believe your anger should be on the board of governors for not replacing Bob Barchi. On the other hand, perhaps bob is doing precisely the job the directors want him to. That is to position the university as one of the finest pharmaceutical research institutions in the world. It could just be that the health of the athletics department is such an insignificant item to all concerned that there is just not any time dedicated to worrying much about it. I truly believe Rutgers will one day be an athletics powerhouse. There is all kinds of crucial investment being made in university infrastructure. Finally. This will attract more students who are traditionally looking at much better places to be. They're doing it. They're doing it the right way. It's going to benefit all programs including athletics. But it will take time. There will be a time where a prospective student, athletes and otherwise, will tour at Rutgers, Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan and not be able to tell which one they love the most. It will become easier to wind recruits and attract better coaches. We were never going to have is serious athletics department until these improvements I'm talking about were made. That's just my view of things. Take a drive College Avenue and all the side streets if you haven't done so in a while. Your mind will be blown.

 

[S_Janowski]

The BOT has no say or purpose when it comes to Atheltics, other than the few from the BOT who are on the BOG.

 

[lighty]

Take a drive College Avenue and all the side streets if you haven't done so in a while. Your mind will be blown.

I agree with you on this one. A few weeks ago, I went to a movie at the NJ Film Fest on campus and walked around beforehand. I was amazed at all of the new buildings and the construction currently going on...

 

[BufSldr43]

You are 100% correct! Should find out how long tenure is, and how members are selected. Get behind those that want both big time athletics and academics.

 

[RU62]

Barchi was hired for one main purpose....yo bring in and oversee the med school merger. The best thing Rutgers BOG could have done would have brought him in as a top level administrator for the sole purpose and authority yo do thr med school merger and yo seek out a president after McCormick that had B1G or large school experience comparable to Rutgers. There appear to be tooany areas where Barchi was not in tune with a school of Rutgers dimensions and at times in over his head. Heck he doesn't even spend the time needed to live on campus full time ad past presidents did.

 

[ru8081]

Add in the NJ pols they are a useless pile of crap except for one.

 

[NotInRHouse]

If Monday comes and goes with HC it should be open season on not just Flood, but also JH, Barch and the BOG until they are relieved and replaced with someone with common sense

 

[ru66]

stop blaming everyone---and if your best buddy believes in what you preach and if she was an aggressive and effective AD she might be able to influence the change you think we need--but she is either unable to or unwilling to do so--either way she's failing you

 

[scarletrider]

interesting thread
i just looked at RU Governance and BOT and BOG make up
i also looked at PSU governance and their make up

some observations:
- RU BOT is powerless over the governance, it exists to protect the original assets prior to 1956 agreement
- RU BOT is majority alumni based
- RU BOT has 7 voting member in BOG
- RU BOG has 8 members out of 15 appointed by the governor
- PSU BOG has majority of its members by the alumni, industry, agriculture society and government
- PSU has state interest groups represented in their BOG

some thoughts:
- RU has no members elected by the alumni, industry or business
- why does the state of NJ and its governor exercise disproportionate influence over RU Governance relative to its financial support
- the BOG is supposed to provide direction, well what does that mean? may be they are apathetic to anything RU as long as Barchi's proposed decisions are not in conflict with their agenda
- would governor selected alumni from camden or newark care about RU athletics? or would they serve the interest of the governor or RU?
- i think we need alumni selected members

http://governingboards.rutgers.edu/board-governors/membership-photos-bios

List:
Mark Angelson - alumnus (RC, Law) - governor selected
Greg Brown - alumnus (LC) - governor selected
Susan McCue - alumnus (RC) - governor selected
Martin Perez - alumnus (Law) - governor selected
Joseph Rigby - alumnus (Camden, MBA) - governor selected
Richard Roper - alumnus (Newark) - governor selected

Candace Straight - non-alumnus - governor selected
William Tambussi - non-alumnus - governor selected


Margaret Derrick - alumnus (Newark) - trustees selected
Lora Fong - alumnus (DC, Law) - trustees selected
Mark Hershhorn - alumnus (RC) - trustees selected
Dudley Rivers - alumnus (RC) - trustees selected
Kenneth Schmidt - alumnus (RC) - trustees selected
Sandy Stewart - alumnus (Camden, MS) - trustees selected

Dorothy Cantor - non-alumnus - trustees selected

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Samuel Rabinowitz - non-alumnus - faculty selected
Ann Gould - non-alumnus - faculty selected
Alexandra Williams - student selected

 

[vkj91]

If Monday comes and goes with HC it should be open season on not just Flood, but also JH, Barch and the BOG until they are relieved and replaced with someone with common sense

What if Flood is here and JH is gone? :popcorn:

 

[bac2therac]

What if Flood is here and JH is gone? :popcorn:

that will just prove what a shitshow we have here..as if firing Julie solves the problems...it just makes them worse as the school will once again be ridiculed and laughed at for many reasons, including of course keeping Flood

 

[ru66]

I don't demand anyone be fired but if Julie goes which I doubt at this time we will not be ridiculed--to the contrary the image makers will say it was overdue

 

[RU MAN]

The Board of Governors does not sign off on everything. They're there to provide direction and their executives do what they need to do on a day to day basis to get the job done. If their executives are ineffective in carrying out their direction, then new executives are put in place that is the way it works.

What you said I believe is for the BOT, not the BOG.

 

[scarletrider]

KingHigh is correct. BOT preserves the assets only. BOG provides oversight of the execution and appoints executive admin.

 

[scarletrider]

also 7 members appointed by BOT serves as the members of the BOG

 

[derleider]

I believe your anger should be on the board of governors for not replacing Bob Barchi. On the other hand, perhaps bob is doing precisely the job the directors want him to. That is to position the university as one of the finest pharmaceutical research institutions in the world. It could just be that the health of the athletics department is such an insignificant item to all concerned that there is just not any time dedicated to worrying much about it. I truly believe Rutgers will one day be an athletics powerhouse. There is all kinds of crucial investment being made in university infrastructure. Finally. This will attract more students who are traditionally looking at much better places to be. They're doing it. They're doing it the right way. It's going to benefit all programs including athletics. But it will take time. There will be a time where a prospective student, athletes and otherwise, will tour at Rutgers, Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan and not be able to tell which one they love the most. It will become easier to wind recruits and attract better coaches. We were never going to have is serious athletics department until these improvements I'm talking about were made. That's just my view of things. Take a drive College Avenue and all the side streets if you haven't done so in a while. Your mind will be blown.

Perhaps? I dont think theres a perhaps about it. The BoG knows much better than a bunch of FB fans the massive financial and political constraints the university faces (both made worse short term by the med school meger) in running its day to day operations and year to year operations and how well Barchi has done.

Reality is sports arent that big a deal. They get alot of publicity, but only payoff in the very very long term, if that.

 

[ru66]

you've got that right Der

 

[Caliknight]

Who is the group or person that allowed Kate Sweeney to have such a voice in who was chosen as our AD?

 

[scarletrider]

she has ties in the BOG. is also active in some RU boards so got appointed as the co-chair of the selection committee. she is not part of the BOG.

 

[koleszar]

Who is the group or person that allowed Kate Sweeney to have such a voice in who was chosen as our AD?

Cali I was thinking right along the same lines. How the hell did she weasel her way into being co-chairman of the search. I expected her to be a member of the BOG but when I saw her name not listed I was surprised. How someone with such an agenda was elected to be co-chairman is beyond me. This panel should have been completely impartial whose only agenda should have been to pick the most qualified candidate. Now I'm not saying Herman was not the most qualified but when the co-chairman brings in her own hand picked choice before interviews are even conducted you have to wonder if the most qualified candidate was even considered.

 

[Ridge 22]

Who is the group or person that allowed Kate Sweeney to have such a voice in who was chosen as our AD?

Agree. That was nothing short of a complete disgrace. Talk about pushing an agenda. That was will go down as legendary.

 

[soundcrib]

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If Monday comes and goes with HC it should be open season on not just Flood, but also JH, Barch and the BOG until they are relieved and replaced with someone with common sense

If Julie doesn't do anything by Monday, she'll be booed at every public appearance or the RAC just like Elmer on the big screen. And I'm a Julie supporter.

 

[RST95]

We know Barchi could care less about athletics but he is not alone. Why do these idiots on the BOG and to a lesser extent the BOT continue to be immune from criticism. If there is one constant over the past two decades its been them. I don't know the tenure of the members or who they even are but I would assume some have been here for more than one athletic director and coach. Barchi is only one part of the problem. The BOG is the one that signs off on everything and they are the ones who have hid themselves from any scrutiny.

Barchi and the BOG have taken the collective position that no new investment will be made in sports. This isn't an A.D. issue. I disagree with their position. However, any change in that position will need to come from the BOG, as Barchi has made his feelings clear on the subject. The only way to influence the BOG is through state politics. In my opinion, support of our State university should be a major campaign issue in every State wide election. The fact that it isn't is, IMO, our biggest problem.

 

[RU-ROCS]

The BOG must pick as the next president a person with experience running a big state U. in a conference like the Big 10, where sports and academics go hand-in-glove. If they botch that assignment then the condemnation voiced here will be well deserved. For now, we're stuck with Barchi who was hired pre-Big 10 to implement the med school merger. If the BOG drops the ball with the next hire, my head will explode.

 

[RUsilencer]

Who is the group or person that allowed Kate Sweeney to have such a voice in who was chosen as our AD?

Sweeney was the head of the Rutgers Alumni association. You are also correct that her influence was a complete joke

 

[BoroKnight]

Those pushing for more spending on athletics always point to what a tiny percentage of the overall budget it is, and now turn around and say the BOG should be more concerned with who is coaching football? This is exactly the kind of decision that, in a perfect world, is left for the director of athletics to make, with the president signing off on it.

Not arguing one way or the other, it just kind of amused me.

 

[batts]

I am a Seton Hall guy but I spent two very happy years at RU while earning a graduate degree. I enjoy following RU football and Men's Basketball. I have also followed and posted on these Boards for many years.

Dereider is 100% correct. Barchi and the BOG are concerned about the big picture including academics, the cost of tuition, the medical school merger, the ability of the school to balance its budget, etc. Like it or not Athletics is a small part of the equation. And for whatever reason, the powers that be have decided to shuffle Julie to the background. My assumption is that she does not have the power to unilaterally fire Coach Flood.

SHU is not that much different from RU in this regard except on a much smaller scale. Our Equivalent to the BOG is the Archdiocese of Newark. Men's BB is not a high priority for the Archdiocese. However, we have big money alums who support basketball and twist elbows with their gifts to the University. It is also far cheaper to run a non-football athletic Department. But, the Archdiocese will not fire Willard until either his lucrative contract buyout is more manageable or some donor agrees to front the money because Money doesn't grow on trees.

My ultimate point is that RU needs its big money boosters and alum to step up to fund changes and upgrades in Football and Men's basketball. I have read on this Board that firing Pernetti and hiring JH were not popular decisions with the big money supporters but that's mere speculation.

 

[bac2therac]

Greg Brown we are watching you

 

[50 yd line RR]

Perhaps? I dont think theres a perhaps about it. The BoG knows much better than a bunch of FB fans the massive financial and political constraints the university faces (both made worse short term by the med school meger) in running its day to day operations and year to year operations and how well Barchi has done.

Reality is sports arent that big a deal. They get alot of publicity, but only payoff in the very very long term, if that.

Sports aren't a big deal? Is that the official position of the University or just your opinion?
If sports aren't that big a deal why should anyone here want to follow them?