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Bring back Schiano, please

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I'm tired of this crap. I kind of wanted Flood out at the end of his horrible 2nd year, but then he did redeem himself, for the most part, with last year's 8-5 season. However, his complete loss of control of the players on this team are worse than any mediocre records or recruiting - all of that hard work by Schiano (and Mulcahy, to a large extent) to build a model program with a competitive football team, great academic performance, and strong discipline, in which our players almost universally were model citizens, has been undone.

I'd go back to all of that, under Schiano, in a heartbeat. This is a man we'll be erecting statues to, one day, for taking the most downtrodden, abysmal program in the US of A, and building it into a program that was the envy of many and far more successful than anything seen On the Banks since RU went "big time." We wouldn't have our beautiful new stadium or be in the B1G without Greg's energy, enthusiasm, dedication, discipline and vision. I so want that back. He had flaws, especially as a gameday coach, but anyone who read his inteview with SI after his Tampa Bay tour of duty knows that he actually learned a lot about himself by his failure there, and I think he'd come back here and do even better than he did in his first tour.

One last tidbit, which I debated posting last weekend when I heard it, but will now, in light of even more troubles with our program (and the Carroo news is going to be ugly). Last weekend, I had a conversation about the then just-announced arrests of 5 RU players (1 for the home invasions and 4 for the fight/riot) with a very, very (did I say very?) highly placed Rutgers source, who has intimate knowledge of the past 10-15 years of RU sports and Schiano's contributions. His comment was an unequivocal, "that kind of crap would've never happened under Greg's watch - NEVER." Whether we like Greg's micromanaging or not, one of the benefits was that he and the staff truly were all over these kids and helped keep them from getting involved in this kind of stuff and we never had to feel embarrassed by program, especially off the field. Sign me up right now for GSII.
 
I never thought GS would come back, but if RU needs an in-season replacement it would likely either be an assistant or the door open for Schiano's return imo.
 
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I'm tired of this crap. I kind of wanted Flood out at the end of his horrible 2nd year, but then he did redeem himself, for the most part, with last year's 8-5 season. However, his complete loss of control of the players on this team are worse than any mediocre records or recruiting - all of that hard work by Schiano (and Mulcahy, to a large extent) to build a model program with a competitive football team, great academic performance, and strong discipline, in which our players almost universally were model citizens, has been undone.

I'd go back to all of that, under Schiano, in a heartbeat. This is a man we'll be erecting statues to, one day, for taking the most downtrodden, abysmal program in the US of A, and building it into a program that was the envy of many and far more successful than anything seen On the Banks since RU went "big time." We wouldn't have our beautiful new stadium or be in the B1G without Greg's energy, enthusiasm, dedication, discipline and vision. I so want that back. He had flaws, especially as a gameday coach, but anyone who read his inteview with SI after his Tampa Bay tour of duty knows that he actually learned a lot about himself by his failure there, and I think he'd come back here and do even better than he did in his first tour.

One last tidbit, which I debated posting last weekend when I heard it, but will now, in light of even more troubles with our program (and the Carroo news is going to be ugly). Last weekend, I had a conversation about the then just-announced arrests of 5 RU players (1 for the home invasions and 4 for the fight/riot) with a very, very (did I say very?) highly placed Rutgers source, who has intimate knowledge of the past 10-15 years of RU sports and Schiano's contributions. His comment was an unequivocal, "that kind of crap would've never happened under Greg's watch - NEVER." Whether we like Greg's micromanaging or not, one of the benefits was that he and the staff truly were all over these kids and helped keep them from getting involved in this kind of stuff and we never had to feel embarrassed by program, especially off the field. Sign me up right now for GSII.
Good lord, another awesome post by my liberal pharma friend. If he keeps this up, I may go to work for Merck soon!
 
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Might just need him to save the Titanic from going down. It's a PR hit you're not fooling around we're going to bring in the ultra disciplinarian Schiano to right this ship. He did it once he can do it again. We might just need him. Julie will have no say Brown will push for it and he will get his way.
 
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I can't believe I actually kind of agree with OP. I really never thought I'd feel that having him back would be a good thing, but it might be what the doctor ordered now.

That said, I'd put down a lot of money it won't happen.
 
Roadblocks need to be removed first.

Gs recruiting in the b10-the prospect is an awesome one for an ru supporter. He would crush it. The giant personalities in the matchups w harbaugh and meyer would be great stuff
 
Don't think he's a midseason hire though.

If it's not a mid-season hire, I think there would be far more temptation to get someone else. It definitely is possible to bring him back and definitely possible to do so after the season, but there will be plenty of options available then. If RU can cut the cord (or feels the need to) from Flood during the season, I think bringing back Schiano could be a solid PR move to counter the suspensions/arrests.
 
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Good lord, another awesome post by my liberal pharma friend. If he keeps this up, I may go to work for Merck soon!
As I've said to you, Cali and a few others from the CE board, it's actually kind of funny how little we may agree on with regard to politics, but there's an awful lot we agree on with respect to the football program. Maybe we can all hold hands (in a gender neutral way, of course) and sing kumbaya...
 
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I'm tired of this crap. I kind of wanted Flood out at the end of his horrible 2nd year, but then he did redeem himself, for the most part, with last year's 8-5 season. However, his complete loss of control of the players on this team are worse than any mediocre records or recruiting - all of that hard work by Schiano (and Mulcahy, to a large extent) to build a model program with a competitive football team, great academic performance, and strong discipline, in which our players almost universally were model citizens, has been undone.

I'd go back to all of that, under Schiano, in a heartbeat. This is a man we'll be erecting statues to, one day, for taking the most downtrodden, abysmal program in the US of A, and building it into a program that was the envy of many and far more successful than anything seen On the Banks since RU went "big time." We wouldn't have our beautiful new stadium or be in the B1G without Greg's energy, enthusiasm, dedication, discipline and vision. I so want that back. He had flaws, especially as a gameday coach, but anyone who read his inteview with SI after his Tampa Bay tour of duty knows that he actually learned a lot about himself by his failure there, and I think he'd come back here and do even better than he did in his first tour.

One last tidbit, which I debated posting last weekend when I heard it, but will now, in light of even more troubles with our program (and the Carroo news is going to be ugly). Last weekend, I had a conversation about the then just-announced arrests of 5 RU players (1 for the home invasions and 4 for the fight/riot) with a very, very (did I say very?) highly placed Rutgers source, who has intimate knowledge of the past 10-15 years of RU sports and Schiano's contributions. His comment was an unequivocal, "that kind of crap would've never happened under Greg's watch - NEVER." Whether we like Greg's micromanaging or not, one of the benefits was that he and the staff truly were all over these kids and helped keep them from getting involved in this kind of stuff and we never had to feel embarrassed by program, especially off the field. Sign me up right now for GSII.
Numbers I usually like and agree with your posts, but you are so off base here. Schiano is the LAST coach we need here now. No one is erecting $hit for him here. The guy did it with smoke and mirros and a creampuff schedule to squeeze out the 6 wins to get us to a bowl. In big games he failed miserably and one cannot forget is lack of gameday experience. We don't need his type here anymore. We have Schiano 2.0 in Flood. We need to cut bait and bring in an entire new philosophy on offense and on defense. Some of you boggle my mind. You act as if Schiano is the ONLY coach in America for Rutgers. IMO, he is the LAST coach I want to see here again.
 
I am an original Schiano supporter who has always thought he would come back at some point.

The Flood era has had many ups and downs and ultimately I was becoming a fan. Unfortunately, I don't believe he will be able to survive this whether it's deserved or not. LC by all accounts is an all around stand up young man who just made an egregious mistake that may alter any future he had in the pros. It's a shame and Coach Flood doesn't deserve it but a firing is what's needed.

Bring back the disciplinarian who has said he has learned from many of his coaching mistakes. We desperately need it now for recruiting purposes in order to maintain this ship or this program may return to levels of obscurity we haven't seen in more than a decade.

For players to tell LC not to go outside and participate in the fight and for their captain not to listen has cost them their best player. It is unbelievably short sighted and a disappointment. It will look like Coach Flood failed these kids but the reality is they failed their coach and will cost him his job. He believed and trusted them so much that he attempted in every way to be the polar opposite of his predecessor and now it seems like the school needs that predecessor back in the worst way.
 
I'm tired of this crap. I kind of wanted Flood out at the end of his horrible 2nd year, but then he did redeem himself, for the most part, with last year's 8-5 season. However, his complete loss of control of the players on this team are worse than any mediocre records or recruiting - all of that hard work by Schiano (and Mulcahy, to a large extent) to build a model program with a competitive football team, great academic performance, and strong discipline, in which our players almost universally were model citizens, has been undone.

I'd go back to all of that, under Schiano, in a heartbeat. This is a man we'll be erecting statues to, one day, for taking the most downtrodden, abysmal program in the US of A, and building it into a program that was the envy of many and far more successful than anything seen On the Banks since RU went "big time." We wouldn't have our beautiful new stadium or be in the B1G without Greg's energy, enthusiasm, dedication, discipline and vision. I so want that back. He had flaws, especially as a gameday coach, but anyone who read his inteview with SI after his Tampa Bay tour of duty knows that he actually learned a lot about himself by his failure there, and I think he'd come back here and do even better than he did in his first tour.

One last tidbit, which I debated posting last weekend when I heard it, but will now, in light of even more troubles with our program (and the Carroo news is going to be ugly). Last weekend, I had a conversation about the then just-announced arrests of 5 RU players (1 for the home invasions and 4 for the fight/riot) with a very, very (did I say very?) highly placed Rutgers source, who has intimate knowledge of the past 10-15 years of RU sports and Schiano's contributions. His comment was an unequivocal, "that kind of crap would've never happened under Greg's watch - NEVER." Whether we like Greg's micromanaging or not, one of the benefits was that he and the staff truly were all over these kids and helped keep them from getting involved in this kind of stuff and we never had to feel embarrassed by program, especially off the field. Sign me up right now for GSII.

I don't think GS would come back....but it's nice to dream. Man could we use him now.
Nice post RU848789.
 
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Bac - I expected more from you. Schiano never won the Big East. He was a poor game day coach. He is not the answer. He got tired of being here and took his payday. I thank him for all he did, but anybody but Schiano.
 
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If it's not a mid-season hire, I think there would be far more temptation to get someone else. It definitely is possible to bring him back and definitely possible to do so after the season, but there will be plenty of options available then. If RU can cut the cord (or feels the need to) from Flood during the season, I think bringing back Schiano could be a solid PR move to counter the suspensions/arrests.
That's a great point.

By the way, to those who think Rutgers can hire a coach of a greater caliber than Greg Schiano, you're mistaken. The only other real option is to hire a young rising coach like PJ Fleck.
 
Greg would've win the big east if it wasn't for a blown call where Thompson ran the fumble in for a TD. As of right now with our financial situation Gary Schiano is our best choice. But would he want to come back ????
 
Numbers...SPOT ON. Kyle is not the answer in so many ways, this is just proof. Yesterday, he was yelling at coaches, players, it looked dysfunctional on TV..mismanaged timeouts, just horrible....it was laughable. NO control, minimal game day coaching skills.
 
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"He got tired of being here and took his payday."

He took a better job as a head coach in the NFL. What kind of guy would leave Rutgers for THAT ?
Rutgers was zero in the world of college football when GS got here.....possibly even less than zero.
The improvement from pre-Schiano RU days was nothing less than remarkable. For fans of the program to focus on the things he hadn't yet done when he left here is awful funny.
Not to worry, losers. He's not coming back here,
 
In less than one short month our image is now that of Miami of the 80's. Our image has been destroyed, this is now about more than just winning football games. If this was a normal situation Hell I wouldn't want Schiano back. But we don't live in a vacuum. He would be a PR hit the ultra disciplinarian coming back home to right the ship. You all want to gamble on an unknown commodity. Well guess what you can't just take a roll of the dice with the situation we are in. If players were to get in trouble for the smallest infractions that coach would be railroaded out of town. What you have in Schiano is a track record of running a clean program and a known commodity. This is what is needed in the current situation more than wins, image repair.
 
Schiano is the LAST coach we need here now. No one is erecting $hit for him here. The guy did it with smoke and mirros and a creampuff schedule to squeeze out the 6 wins to get us to a bowl. In big games he failed miserably and one cannot forget is lack of gameday experience.

I love how he supposedly did everything with smoke and mirrors and yet had a pretty great record in bowl games. If we only reached bowl games because of creampuff schedules, why didn't those teams get beat in the bowls?
 
I love how he supposedly did everything with smoke and mirrors and yet had a pretty great record in bowl games. If we only reached bowl games because of creampuff schedules, why didn't those teams get beat in the bowls?
That's because in bowl games he actually played to win and not lose. Schiano was a TERRIBLE gameday coach. And you and others quickly forget he left us high and dry and took all of our coaches with him. You and others act as if he's the ONLY coach for Rutgers. Sorry lighty, but there are a lot of coaches out there that are not only better as gameday coaches, but also command the respect of the players and the players' families. Too many people here have this myopic view that Schiano is some sort of savior. He's not. We--let me repeat that WE put him on the map and made him wealthy. Before Rutgers he was a nobody.
 
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Coach Schianos next press conference: "I said when we built this program it would be on a rock solid foundation that would last forever. (Pause for effect). Well, its time for some sorely needed maintenance work. Let's get Chopin."
 
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That's because in bowl games he actually played to win and not lose. Schiano was a TERRIBLE gameday coach. And you and others quickly forget he left us high and dry and took all of our coaches with him. You and others act as if he's the ONLY coach for Rutgers. Sorry lighty, but there are a lot of coaches out there that are not only better as gameday coaches, but also command the respect of the players and the players' families. Too many people here have this myopic view that Schiano is some sort of savior. He's not. We--let me repeat that WE put him on the map and made him wealthy. Before Rutgers he was a nobody.

he left Flood behind for a reason...he didn't want him
 
Great post, greg would kill it in the big 10 !!!! our recruiting classes would be epic.
 
Schiano wouldn't come back.
We wouldn't pay and the program has fallen too much from when he left.
Also I can't imagine him a fan of the barchi philosophy on athletic spending.
 
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