One of the great fallacies in RU FB history. If Townsend makes the catch we don't necessarily win that game. It wasn't on the final drive.
As much as Greg's posse likes to talk about it, Townsend's drop doesn't change anything.
Bring back Schiano, please
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One of the great fallacies in RU FB history. If Townsend makes the catch we don't necessarily win that game. It wasn't on the final drive.
As much as Greg's posse likes to talk about it, Townsend's drop doesn't change anything.
OK so Ito makes an extra FG....or Te makes one of the FGs against Ville in 2011....we could go on here but you would hate him anyway so why bother.
Once he's back you'll have ample time for your conniption I'll be among many looking forward to it.
NIRH,
Pls step away from the keyboard, Greg is not coming back to RU. Hate to break it to you but it's for your own good to know now rather than later. Fans like you are generally the last to know the obvious about these types of situations. Doesn't make me a bad person for telling you the truth. LOL
The beauty of this new board format is that we will all be able to witness you bashing Greg if he loses a big game and then go back to thsee threads to show your hypocrisy.
Just curious, what's in it for Greg to come back? In other words, why would he do it rather than collecting the rest if his TB severance and going elsewhere after that? It's not like RU is an endless ATM machine when it comes to paying coaches.
I never bashed GS after a big game. I definitely pointed out flaws but so did everyone but the good far outweights hte bad.
What is in it for him is to restore honor the program he built, he didn't build Miami or UVA and honestly RU in the B1G is likely the better job.
What is in it for him is to restore honor the program he built, he didn't build Miami or UVA and honestly RU in the B1G is likely the better job.
I actually don't think he'll even be asked, but would love to see what you would post if he did.
Think of how you would feel reading this in the Star Ledger :eek:
Greg Schiano is coming back to Rutgers, to take over the troubled RU FB program .[roll]
A five year contract probably will be the only one he'll accept.
But think he'll take a little under ( but not much) $2 Mil and don't think RU will want to do that unless the buyout is a lot less.
Doubt Greg would accept that after taking a little under 2 .
We can talk about Schiano returning, but I don't see it happening.
I've never rooted for a person's hope to be dashed into oblivion the way I have, here.
Do you personally know Greg Schiano? Do you know something we don't?
I don't think it's likely he comes back but I wouldn't say it would never happen. Greg liked it enough here to stay after being offered the Michigan job. Petrino came back to Louisville. Greg loves Rutgers.
I actually don't think he'll even be asked, but would love to see what you would post if he did.
Think of how you would feel reading this in the Star Ledger :eek:
Greg Schiano is coming back to Rutgers, to take over the troubled RU FB program .[roll]
MADHAT1,
I would be beyond shocked if Greg were offered an interview by RU, never mind being hired as the next HC. If RU hires Greg then I will throw myself on the mercy of this board and ask forgiveness from all, including wannabe Ron Jeremy.
One thing is for sure around here. The Schiano Factor is alive and well on SN and is likely to stay that way for the foreseeable future.
You are assuming GS hasn't evolved as a coach and that he will be relegated to low paying bad coordinators as he had in the big east . With big money coming he can now actually get a real oc and DC . Bring him back now!
ok, but only if he promises to win championships...of wait. he already did that. never mind..:okay:
In what world would GS accept the job on an interim basis. No chance of that. If he comes back, he signs up for a long term high priced deal.
As I said on the pay board - if we need to can Flood midseason - you dont rush - the season and the recruiting class are likely lost any way - you bring in an intermin until December. If we suck and need to fire Flood - then you hold a full search in December. Wait to see who's out there. You never know when a great coach will get fired for a couple of subpar seasons - look at Rich Rod and Arizona for example.
If at the end of tat search, Schiano is the best we can afford, then so be it. Bring him in and hope hes learned. But the idea that the guy is the only guy for the job is just people afraid that we will go back to being Shea era Rutgers. But thats crap - Schiano built the foundation strong enough, ironically, that we dont need HIM to keep the building standing.
MADHAT - seriously - you think he would take LESS than he agreed to a decade ago, before oaching salaries bloomed and before he was an NFL coach? No chance. I would be surprised if we could get him for less than $3 million honestly. $15 million commitment, minimum for the next HC is what I expect. Which is why we need to run a real search, not just panic and throw it to the only guy who ever really got us.
Pretty much. Wouldn't return unless he's granted de facto autonomy where he oversees all football program operations and answers directly to trustees, not JH.
The flip side is - this is probably the best job he is going to be able to get if he wants to be an HC.
Seriously, why do you think that? People talk about him doing poorly in Tampa Bay, but he's hardly the first college coach to do poorly in the NFL. And it's definitely not like Tampa has done better since firing him.
Anybody that could convince a school to hire him as coach as young as Greg was when RU hired him probably is a good interview. He's now got NFL experience on his resume to go along with a great stint as Miami's d-coordinator and bringing RU football to respectability. I'd say that resume will appeal to more than you hint at.
Thats what i call 'stain' or charisma...Jersey style.Step aside, please. Coming through.
Schiano seriously had such a "presence". A type of "swag" as you may.
Trolling is a blast, especially with old libs like Skillet! Looking forward to your snow posts this winter.
He just exudes confidence. If you looked at the way he walks and talks you just know he's the boss. Schiano is also a bit intimidating but I think that's what these players need.
I've never faulted him for that move; I just don't want to hire him back at Rutgers.
I would take him back in a heartbeat at this point. HE would turn this mess around quickly
Schiano would be a vast improvement over the current regime, but he is not a miracle worker. If there was a criminal gang formed on this team, then who knows who else was involved and what other players knew about these robberies and home invasions? Schiano would have the daunting task of cleaning house and getting rid of any coconspirators without crippling this program for years. Maybe he can do it, but it will be a very difficult challenge.
Agree. Draining the swamp is probably the initial task required of a new HC at RU.
Do we want to rebuild the program or just remodel it ?
So, as per my post on the Flood suspension thread, I've been away all afternoon and wow, I'm amazed he wasn't fired. How friggin' stupid do you have to be to willfully circumvent clearly laid out university rules on contact with profs you had just been reminded about (especially in defense of a kid who clearly wasn't going to make it)? That, alone, is enough to get him fired for cause, IMO. Flood's gone - just a matter of timing/details now.
My guess is RU is preparing the HR/legal case for willfully abrogating his responsibilities in this matter and that the suspension is just step one in getting rid of Flood for cause, so we save some $$ to apply to the next coach's contract. Funny thing is, until today, I had thought he only sent an email to the prof and never really thought that was that big of a deal - slap on the wrist for forgetting one of the dozens of academic rules. Then it comes out that he was told not to contact the prof anymore, but he did anyway? OMG that's just monumentally stupid. Even if the editing the paper wasn't viewed that badly by Barchi (I thought it was way inappropriate), this, alone is enough to suspend/fire.
Combine the academic errors in judgment with a complete break down in discipline on the team resulting in numerous arrests/dismissals and yeah, Flood's toast and I still firmly believe Schiano is the best choice to replace him, assuming he'd want to come back. Please let this be more than a pipedream. I actually have no idea if Julie wants Greg or if Greg wants back in, but obviously that's what I'd like to see. Time to ask my buddy, who is great friends with Schiano (they played together at Bucknell and their families/kids/wives are close), what he's hearing...
Sign me up for the Greg Schiano must return bus. I always thought in the back of my head Flood was just holding his spot, but when he didn't return after Tampa fired him (which really was BS, the guy had no chance to develop a QB and really put his imprint on the team) then my suspicions were proven wrong.
I would love to have him back, as long as he came back w/ a promise to stay here at Rutgers for the long haul. If anyone can turn this around, he can. Let the man finish what he started.
I would love to have him back, as long as he came back w/ a promise to stay here at Rutgers for the long haul. If anyone can turn this around, he can. Let the man finish what he started.
Add me to the bring back Schiano group. Previously, he was recruiting for BE/AAC Rutgers and he still out-recruited PSU. Recruiting for B1G and I think he kills it.
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