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Build a new RAC NOW,only smaller,with more premium seating.

Exit117

Exit117

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Waiting, is like trying to save money waiting to buy your first home, and pissing away money on rent!!!! Does the BOG and Barchi think construction will get cheaper in the future? What's the old saying,"YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY, TO MAKE MONEY", something I don't think the clowns currently in charge understand. Basketball, is one major college sport that can be turned around in a heart beat, given the right set of circumstances. I guess that's why watching this program implode is so painful. It's there for the taking,except our leaders are clueless! Build the new Arena and practice facility across from High Point Solutions Stadium, where the Yellow and Blue lots are. The money lost in priority points for those lots will be made 10x's over with one or two concerts in the new arena. To waste that space for parking 6 weekends a year is just crazy,and speaking about on campus concerts, is it true Rutgers made a deal with the Meadowlands Sports Authority, never to host concerts, so as not to compete with their venues? If that's true, the least this corrupt state should do for a currently cash strapped Rutgers, is allow them to compete for country and rock concerts to raise money for the school.Julie needs to visit that issue alone, make a case to the BOG,Barchi, and the state, that revenue can be made big time for concerts in a centrally located arena in New Jersey.
 
won't happen because he was fired and then Julie scrapped the plan--I 'm guessing if the Rice fiasco did not happen we'd be talking about seeing a redone RAC next year.
 
Originally posted by Exit117:
Waiting, is like trying to save money waiting to buy your first home, and pissing away money on rent!!!! Does the BOG and Barchi think construction will get cheaper in the future? What's the old saying,"YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY, TO MAKE MONEY", something I don't think the clowns currently in charge understand. Basketball, is one major college sport that can be turned around in a heart beat, given the right set of circumstances. I guess that's why watching this program implode is so painful. It's there for the taking,except our leaders are clueless! Build the new Arena and practice facility across from High Point Solutions Stadium, where the Yellow and Blue lots are.[/B] The money lost in priority points for those lots will be made 10x's over with one or two concerts in the new arena. To waste that space for parking 6 weekends a year is just crazy,and speaking about on campus concerts, is it true Rutgers made a deal with the Meadowlands Sports Authority, never to host concerts, so as not to compete with their venues? If that's true, the least this corrupt state should do for a currently cash strapped Rutgers, is allow them to compete for country and rock concerts to raise money for the school.Julie needs to visit that issue alone, make a case to the BOG,Barchi, and the state, that revenue can be made big time for concerts in a centrally located arena in New Jersey.
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If a new RAC is to be built, and that is highly doubtful, building it here would be a huge mistake.
 
The TP plan was pie in the sky and TP was part of the Rice fiasco so blame him

A new RAC is not needed...first priority practice center
 
HUH?

And I wouldnt have bet against Pernetti to have gotten that thing done. We will never know
This post was edited on 2/28 9:50 AM by ruman
 
wasn't pie in the sky--real $ was pledged and it would have gotten done--where's our plan today? even for a training facility ,have you seen actual plans/renderings/ a white paper???
 
also has Julie had an audience with lesniak yet--it's been days since that was suggested--I hope it will happen but I hope she's just not running for cover--even the commentators on the purdue broadcast were suggesting that
 
suggesting she should meet, not run for cover---jim why--stfu?-- we should be spending time demanding action from everyone at RU and that includes her-spending time burying heads in the sand and making up excuses for all at RU is what should stop--and by the way you are not my supreme commander--you have no right to dictate to anyone
 
The idea that Nuts can be banned for being negative but 66 cannot be banned for repeated and ungrounded attacks on the AD is extremely troubling. I am the only that noticed that he mostly relocated his shtick over here to fly under the radar?
 
66 your true colors have shown...that TP plan was not moving off the ground...I love how you defend his project that sat with no movement and defend the guy who botched the whole Rice thing but continue to bury Julie...you have no idea what she is doing so stop blasting her..
 
A new RAC is not needed. The RAC is fine.


A practice facility is needed.

Most importantly, the team must win. If you have a 10-20 Rutgers, a practice facility isn't going to sway someone over exactly.

Couple new bathrooms, an exterior enhancement, better lighting and the RAC is a great facility.
 
Originally posted by higgins3:
A new RAC is not needed. The RAC is fine.


A practice facility is needed.
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Yes, practice facility should be.priority #1 but the RAC is far.from fine. RU basically has.no choice


More and.more schools are.building new.arenas that help bring in more basketball game revenue (a lot more.premium seating), PLUS, events/concerts/shows etc held year round, something the RAC can't provide in its current state.

This post was edited on 2/28 2:53 PM by Knight_Light
 
If a new arena is built it should be in New Brunswick But I think the RAC nac be refurbished down the road. We need a practice facility now
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The RAC is not fine. Their have been embarrassing comments made about the visiting dressing rooms even by Jordan.Their is a need for more rest rooms and more lobby space so that fans can walk through without blocking people waiting for food concessions.The fact that the RAC only holds 8000 seats just shows a small time operation for a school joining a big time league.Sometimes I feel some fans are satisfied with the staus quo and that fits into the mindset of administrators who understand the great difficulty in getting financial support for any major facility project.

The practice facility proposed by the athletic director is a athletes village concept to be built near the football stadium.She is proposing this option because she knows that is the only chance to get funding by including other sports teams as part of the complex.Basketball at Rutgers once again has no status because the practice facility should be built adjacent to the RAC which would have a far more meaningful impact in attracting top recruits.
 
We are back to a meaningless endless discussion on this board. That's why the public debate on this topic is so important. Something actually might get done.
 
And where do the funds come from for a new RAC?I know the states getting on board, but still that's to finance a practice facility.

The RAC can't sell out crowds on a nightly basis, so we don't need more seats.

Also, the locker rooms? You go and sit on a bench and your coach draws up a play. You don't need message therapists, jacuzzis, and a snack bar in there.

The product on the court has to change. That is what matters most. A practice facility will help that to a small extent. Just getting a practice facility isn't going to make every recruit want to come here.

A lot of folks have mentioned being okay with the RAC. When the product is good, the place is a great place to be. Need another set of bathrooms, but besides that it should be good for another 3-5 years until money is here.

On a good (shooting) night, the RAC is a great pace to be!
 
Originally posted by RU-JMM78:

Basketball at Rutgers once again has no status because the practice facility should be built adjacent to the RAC which would have a far more meaningful impact in attracting top recruits.
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The new basketball practice facility will be built to last decades and decades. The RAC may not have that time so I wouldn't worry were .it's built, just get it built.
 
We need five B1G quality basketball players to take the court each night. EJ needs to go find them. He's probably the highest paid employee of the State of New Jersey. I can't believe every program in the country has all these great practice facilities. Give us some reason to move forward. $$$$
This post was edited on 2/28 3:06 PM by dollarbill
 
Has Piscataway signaled that they would embrace concerts in a new arena? If concerts were part of the business plan then the arena would have to be built across the river.
 
Originally posted by Jim_from_RU:
Stfu '66
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Let 66 talk and while we all are at it, maybe wonder why Lesniak isn't talking about him standing up in the State Legislature
asking for a vote on helping RU MBB fund a practice facility.
Maybe we should be asking, if Lesniakis so concerned, why hasn't he contacted the Rutgers AD and asked for a meeting
to find out exactly what the RU M&WBB programs need when he asks the NJ Legislature to help fund the upgrades those programs need.
Giving statements to media outlets is fine, but the statement really needed is the one Lesniak should make to his fellow State Legislators.
Unless he does that, don't expect any help from him, only talk.
 
In all fairness, with the larger crowds that we got to see their teams this year, we need a bigger stadium. We sold the place out a few times with 6 Rutgers fans in attendance. Need 12.000.
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Originally posted by higgins3:
And where do the funds come from for a new RAC?I know the states getting on board, but still that's to finance a practice facility.

The RAC can't sell out crowds on a nightly basis, so we don't need more seats.

Also, the locker rooms? You go and sit on a bench and your coach draws up a play. You don't need message therapists, jacuzzis, and a snack bar in there.

The product on the court has to change. That is what matters most. A practice facility will help that to a small extent. Just getting a practice facility isn't going to make every recruit want to come here.

A lot of folks have mentioned being okay with the RAC. When the product is good, the place is a great place to be. Need another set of bathrooms, but besides that it should be good for another 3-5 years until money is here.

On a good (shooting) night, the RAC is a great pace to be!
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I haven't heard one person say winning isn't important but so is getting the commitment and leadership we need to build a program. Part of that leadership is understanding how important the practice facility is. I agree, we can live with the RAC for 3-5 years, but we need to have a commitment to Men's BB, and part of that includes plans for a practice facility and getting shovels in the ground as soon as possible.
 
Rutgers can recruit OK in the B1G (out-of-state) but it will never go where it wants - more like where we want - without showing a commitment to winning off the court.

It's obviously cheaper to improve the product on the court, but is that actually true? What does it take to get elite recruits and keep them for more than two years?

Rutgers can either commit to a facility and borrow against future B1G revenue, or it can foolishly try to convince their local targets that they are a better option than schools with more winning tradition, bigger fan bases, modern arenas and better facilities.

You can tell a recruit "All we need is one good class" - how many times have we heard that from previous regimes? It worked with Rosario but we failed to surround him with enough talent, and the minute he joined them team Fred gave Mike full reigns on the offense, not how you develop a "team"

Also you can commit to facility upgrades while improving the product on the floor. They are not mutually exclusive items.

We can improve as a team without winning more games next year.
This post was edited on 2/28 4:22 PM by Aggs
 
need a new RAC period but that will take time. 1st is a new practice facility that can be build in stages. We need to think ahead and have plans for one of the best practice facilities one can have. You set 20 objectives with the plan and you start with phase 1. If you win people come. NO reason you cant have 5000 students at every game. yes 5000 Rutgers is HUGE Think big everyone.
 
Originally posted by coachkos:
need a new RAC period but that will take time. 1st is a new practice facility that can be build in stages. We need to think ahead and have plans for one of the best practice facilities one can have. You set 20 objectives with the plan and you start with phase 1. If you win people come. NO reason you cant have 5000 students at every game. yes 5000 Rutgers is HUGE Think big everyone.
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There were times at the RAC when getting student tickets wasn't that easy, I know it's hard to believe now, but seeing the student section packed was a regular event.

If we ever have a year where we are competing for an NCAA berth, the students will come, and so will the rest of the fans.
 
We need practice facilities NOW and redo the locker rooms in the RAC. We don't need a new arena now. We need new locker rooms at the RAC, air conditioning and a fresh coat of pain on the outside. What we desperately need is a brand new state of the art practice facility. That will show Rutgers is serious about being in the B1G.
 
not in r house---attacking the AD??? WHERE?? and I guess you guys who really do attack are so innocent --like direct attacks on barchi, bog,the athletic department --I can go on and on yet when I say we need to put some responsibility on herman which is obvious you say I m attacking her--maybe some should spend less time defending her and more energy pushing the ENTIRE athletic department as well as barchi and RU to do what's right--- heck even our ally lesniak says the same thing-he hasn't excluded her from his demands by any stretch
 
Jp, a practice facility is definitely needed. Practice facility before a new RAC.

To show recruits you're investing is a big deal.
 
Why would we want less seats in the RAC? I would love a practice facility and the RAC expanded to about 10,000. That would be ideal.
 
Real money gets counted not pledged...

Anyway, for all the JH/Court Club hub bub...she deserves credit for not blowing smoke up everyone's butt and coming out and saying that they aren't going to put plans out just to appease the masses (or at least that was my take on it)...

Until something is concrete and ready to roll...I don't want to see meaningless drawings or drafts of proposals. I'm with JH on that for sure! I'd prefer to let her and her team work behind the scenes till there is truly good news to report...hopefully sooner rather than later though!
This post was edited on 2/28 10:35 PM by BKIn118
 
Originally posted by Knight_Light:
Flashback: Oct 12, 2011:

Pernetti requested and received permission to move forward on the project to improve the RAC and construct an adjacent practice facility.

http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/rutgers/2011/10/12/rutgers-moving-forward-on-rac-renovation-and-practice-facility/
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According to that Oct 2011 article, "In January 2010, Pernetti announced plans to refurbish the 8,000-seat RAC".

Pernetti didn't leave Rutgers until April 2013.

There were some conceptual drawings released in late 2012 in a fund-raising brochure. But did any real traction happen in the 3+ years from Jan 2010 to Apr 2013?
 
If we want to be true b1g, the RAC has to be eventually be replaced. I wish it was today but of course that isn't happening,

It epitomizes the mens program in every way

It sucks period
 
Originally posted by RU85inFla:
In all fairness, with the larger crowds that we got to see their teams this year, we need a bigger stadium. We sold the place out a few times with 6 Rutgers fans in attendance. Need 12.000.
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RU sold out because Big Ten fans enjoyed their first conf games every played in the NYC Area in 100 plus years.

New College Arenas are built for REVENUE PRODUCTION (year round) and not focused on more total capacity/bleacher seating.

Auburn's recently built new college arena that seats 9,121 is a good blue print on how to increase Revenue while decreasing seating capacity (seats about 1,500 less than their old coliseum).

New Arena also has new practice facilities for both men's and women's team, weight rooms, team operations, meeting rooms, offices, etc...Plus an Auburn Athletics Hall of Fame with 17 interactive exhibits:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHMjuun2Cy0


The furthest seat in Auburn Arena is just 43 feet away from the court. A full two-thirds of the seats in the facility are less than 27 feet in elevation from courtside. Auburn students have their own entrance, lobby and concessions area at the Arena to service 1,500 floor-level seats.

The Arena features a team store, six concession stands, three elevators, 94 HD televisions plus family restrooms and customer service kiosks on all seating levels. For special events, 12,000 square feet of banquet space, including tailgate and super suites, is available.

For the teams, Auburn Arena offers an office suite for the coaches, locker rooms and a 13,970-square foot practice facility and weight room, plus a Courtside Club for Premium Seat holders:

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This post was edited on 3/1 9:47 AM by Knight_Light
 
Originally posted by bac2therac:
The TP plan was pie in the sky and TP was part of the Rice fiasco so blame him

A new RAC is not needed...first priority practice center
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Bac-

I'll predict now that Julie's more ambitious Athletes Glen project never gets done and what eventually does get done will look much more like Pernetti's "pie in the sky" plan to add on to the RAC. Time will tell, but from what I hear, donors are more supportive of Tim's concept. Julie has won me over with her hard work and determination, but I think your anti-Pernetti bias is misplaced.
 
The problem with not revealing a plan until a certain amount of money is donated = unless something changes where we can borrow money, then we're waiting for this plan for a long time. The Athlete's Village is probably as ambitious and will cost more than a separate practice facility - but I could be wrong.

The way it's going we have to wait a year to hear about the plan and then at least 5-6 years before a shovel hits the dirt.

Entering the B1G without the money to support the top sports, all of the sports really, was and is suicide.

Can anyone take 5-6 more years of kicking the can down the road? Lesniak spoke with urgency about the facility - and yes he's a politician but he struck a nerve with diehards.


This post was edited on 3/1 12:48 PM by Aggs
 
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