Carino Article

[MCKnight2004]

He gathered local HS coaches thoughts on the Mullin hire. Interesting thoughts from St. Patrick Coach below. Sad to know RU and SHU don't even bother developing a relationship with one of the top HS programs in the area. Obviously AAU now runs the recruiting show, but still, to have a top coach in the state say he never hears from Eddie or sees Eddie is disappointing...

"The coaches on a national level representing out-of-state schools do a better job of recruiting my kids than the coaches from local schools. Within days of Nick Richards enrolling at our school I heard from Kansas. There are Big East and Big Ten schools in our area that hardly ever contact me either verbally or in writing.

"The local coaches need to make it appealing for kids to want to be interested. Now that all the conferences have TV deals, it's not unusual or detrimental to say that I'm playing across the country. Mom and dad are able to see practically every game.

 

[ruman]

he's busy

 

[Knightmoves]

Originally posted by ruman:
he's busy

Still working on getting his RU degree ? That's a pretty expensive schollie that we gave him.

 

[Section114]

Originally posted by MCKnight2004:
He gathered local HS coaches thoughts on the Mullin hire. Interesting thoughts from St. Patrick Coach below. Sad to know RU and SHU don't even bother developing a relationship with one of the top HS programs in the area. Obviously AAU now runs the recruiting show, but still, to have a top coach in the state say he never hears from Eddie or sees Eddie is disappointing...

"The coaches on a national level representing out-of-state schools do a better job of recruiting my kids than the coaches from local schools. Within days of Nick Richards enrolling at our school I heard from Kansas. There are Big East and Big Ten schools in our area that hardly ever contact me either verbally or in writing.

"The local coaches need to make it appealing for kids to want to be interested. Now that all the conferences have TV deals, it's not unusual or detrimental to say that I'm playing across the country. Mom and dad are able to see practically every game.

Extremely disappointing. Just another GLARING reason he isn't the answer here. This has nothing to do with facilities.

 

[cyrock3]

Originally posted by ruman:
he's busy

You don't know basketball or the program if you question Eddie. Give him time! He hasn't even gotten his players yet. Remember, he had a lot of player defections when he first started, even though he was still able to field a full team for his first season!

 

[78CollegeAve]

Eddie Jordan makes over a million a year but a guy like Al Skinner can't find a job because BC alum and blowhard, Bob Ryan, fed the company line in the Boston Globe that Al didn't work hard enough in recruiting.

So we have a B1G program with a couple of NBA lifers, Jordan and O'Koren, at the top and they can't be bothered to shmooze the NJ coaches. What a shocker!

ZERO scholarship kids from New Jersey on the roster next year. Says it all.

 

[ruman]

Originally posted by cyrock3:

Originally posted by ruman:
he's busy

You don't know basketball or the program if you question Eddie. Give him time! He hasn't even gotten his players yet. Remember, he had a lot of player defections when he first started, even though he was still able to field a full team for his first season!

LOL. The reasons that players defected when the Rice scandal happened does not explain why he has no relationship with top coaches in the state. He should be working twice as hard due to that scandal.

 

[rubaseball78]

There are always two sides to every story. I would like to hear the EJ side before I place blame. To establish a relationship both people havevto be willing.

 

[78CollegeAve]

Mullin just hired his lead recruiter, Matt Abdelmassih, from Iowa State. Went to St. John's. Already tight with Chieck Diallo. Unlike Jordan and O'Koren, I bet the guy knows how to find the top NJ high schools without GPS.

 

[RUfinal4]

There may be a reason that SHU and RU are not in with this coach. If it was just Eddie it is 1 thing but it is SHU too. It is unlikely they both would not be involved with talking to a top state program without a reason.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I have heard the same...and actually worse.

Eddie has been a coach all his life....never had to run an organization.

 

[satnom]

According to this HS coach it's Eddie, Rutgers, SHU, the entire BIG and BE conference schools that's ignoring his beloved HS program but not Kansas. Give me a break. Eddie should donate some cheese for his whine.

GO RU

 

[MCKnight2004]

It's plain and simple, he can't recruit. Any recruit that has come this way has been due to van Macon or Shoes connections. Today college coaches need to recruit before coach, talent always wins out and you need to get the talent

St. John's is already ahead of us with Mullins first hire

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Obviously, this coach was not telling the truth. I'm sure he was not telling the truth about Rutgers coaches. Sounds like he is trying to get a job !!!


In a follow-up email, Chavannes clarified that Seton Hall recruits the Patrick School regularly (associate head coach Shaheen Holloway is a St. Pat's alum). Chavannes also said Fairleigh Dickinson regularly recruits his players (assistant coach Grant Billmeier is a St. Pat's grad).
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This post was edited on 3/31 1:49 PM by RU-Choppin-Ohio

 

[Section114]

Originally posted by cyrock3:

Originally posted by ruman:
he's busy

You don't know basketball or the program if you question Eddie. Give him time! He hasn't even gotten his players yet. Remember, he had a lot of player defections when he first started, even though he was still able to field a full team for his first season!

Tell us why we shouldn't question him? He has given everyone ZERO indication he has any clue what to do to get this done. HIS ONLY HS recruit from 2013 is transferring. He hasn't built relationships with any NJ coaches, no one has gotten better and we are non-competitive in half the games we play.

Please help me understand as I am looking for any shred of hope to latch on to.

 

[MADHAT1]

Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:
Obliviously, this coach was not telling the truth. I'm sure he was not telling the truth about Rutgers coaches. Sounds like he is trying to get a job !!!


In a follow-up email, Chavannes clarified that Seton Hall recruits the Patrick School regularly (associate head coach Shaheen Holloway is a St. Pat's alum). Chavannes also said Fairleigh Dickinson regularly recruits his players (assistant coach Grant Billmeier is a St. Pat's grad).[/I]

One coach complains about contact and he then has to change his tune when he found out two of St Pats
( administrators and parents affiliated with St. Patrick opened the Patrick School after St Patrick closed)
are assistants at local College programs. Put foot in moth with lie, scrabble to get foot out.
Think you're right about Chavannes and he's full of it because he's not getting the attention Kevin Boyle did
when he was St Patrick's HC and wants to be noticed..

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

The usual gang of negative posters were quick to latch onto this lying coach.

 

[RutgHoops]

Yup, he's not working hard. I guess the 14 kids that have signed to play for Eddie in the last 23 months were drawn to the rich tradition of winning and lavish facilities.

There are not more than 3 or 4 CBB HC's who have needed to bring in HALF the amount of players Eddie has in under two years. Not ONE HC has brought in 14 kids in 23 months. NOT ONE. The idea he isn't "recruiting hard" is ridiculous.






This post was edited on 3/31 2:38 PM by RutgHoops

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

calling you out here.....

Eddie Jordan is offering a chance to play basketball in the B1G. Anyone can get 14 kids to agree to that.

How many of the 14 kids could crack a rotation at Michigan, Wisconsin, Maryland, Michigan state or even Penn state? That is the lithmus test.

It seems like he is settling and not recruiting....no different than his farcical (sp?) assistant coach search.

Look at all the people he has brought in and have subsequently left or not made it.

When 1 of the most important HS head coaches in NJ says Eddie doesn't return phone calls you know you have a problem.

I wish I could be like you and Scarlet Shack and see the glass full.

 

[Caliknight]

Gets back to support.

I guarantee you Kansas has an army of people whose sole job it is to do stuff like this.

At Rutgers, Eddie is one step removed from having to make the teams hotel reservations.

Apples to oranges.

Again, not sure why this stuff is so hard to understand. It isn't just facilities that are woeful. It is the support around the program at every level. As a visual aid, watch the teams play this weekend. Look at the amount of people on the bench who do everything for the players, take stats for the coaches, etc. The players focus on playing and the coaches do nothing but focus on coaching.

Night and day between schools like Seton Hall and Rutgers, compared to massively funded programs like Kansas.

 

[cyrock3]

Originally posted by ruman:

Originally posted by cyrock3:

Originally posted by ruman:
he's busy

You don't know basketball or the program if you question Eddie. Give him time! He hasn't even gotten his players yet. Remember, he had a lot of player defections when he first started, even though he was still able to field a full team for his first season!

LOL. The reasons that players defected when the Rice scandal happened does not explain why he has no relationship with top coaches in the state. He should be working twice as hard due to that scandal.

Your sarcasm meter is off. :)

 

[Knightmoves]

Originally posted by RutgHoops:
Yup, he's not working hard. I guess the 14 kids that have signed to play for Eddie in the last 23 months were drawn to the rich tradition of winning and lavish facilities.

There are not more than 3 or 4 CBB HC's who have needed to bring in HALF the amount of players Eddie has in under two years. Not ONE HC has brought in 14 kids in 23 months. NOT ONE. The idea he isn't "recruiting hard" is ridiculous.

Chris Mullin has to restock almost the entire SJU rotation for next season. Is anyone crying the blues for him ?




This post was edited on 3/31 2:38 PM by RutgHoops

 

[ruman]

Gets back to support.

I guarantee you Kansas has an army of people whose sole job it is to do stuff like this.

At Rutgers, Eddie is one step removed from having to make the teams hotel reservations.

Apples to oranges.

Again, not sure why this stuff is so hard to understand. It isn't just facilities that are woeful. It is the support around the program at every level. As a visual aid, watch the teams play this weekend. Look at the amount of people on the bench who do everything for the players, take stats for the coaches, etc. The players focus on playing and the coaches do nothing but focus on coaching.

Night and day between schools like Seton Hall and Rutgers, compared to massively funded programs like Kansas.
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Wow. We are so hard up we dont even have telephones that allow someone to make phone calls
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[RU82]

HS coaches aren't all that important in recruiting these days. It's all handlers and AAU organizations.

 

[RutgHoops]

Originally posted by Greene Rice FIG:
calling you out here.....

Eddie Jordan is offering a chance to play basketball in the B1G. Anyone can get 14 kids to agree to that.

How many of the 14 kids could crack a rotation at Michigan, Wisconsin, Maryland, Michigan state or even Penn state? That is the lithmus test.

It seems like he is settling and not recruiting....no different than his farcical (sp?) assistant coach search.

Look at all the people he has brought in and have subsequently left or not made it.

When 1 of the most important HS head coaches in NJ says Eddie doesn't return phone calls you know you have a problem.

I wish I could be like you and Scarlet Shack and see the glass full.

In Eddie's first two years there are encouraging signs and troubling signs. While I am certainly a glass half full person I am not in any way stating that "everything is perfect, what is everyone complaining about".

I don't care who RU hired in April of 2013. The first two years post-Rice were going to be a sh-t show and Year 3 was going to be a roster full of frosh and sophs. Expecting anything different is simply setting an expectation to bash our HC.

I am fortunate to have contacts here in DC. Both AAU and HS coaches. Some former/current CBB Asst's as well. To a man the sentiment is "Eddie can coach". Recruit? No idea. But the guy can coach.

 

[78CollegeAve]

Look, no one is trying compare Eddie to Coach K ... or Rutgers hoops ops to Kansas. How about putting 5 kids on the floor that can, uh, compete with St. Pete's or St. Frank's in Year 3?

Mullin is hired and immediately attracts a lead recruiter from a Top 25 program with ties to numerous legit kids in the class of '15, not to mention '16 and beyond. At Rutgers, Jordan held on to a couple guys who stood around and watched Mike Rice be a 5-star jerk and hired a couple of staff fillers ... who he then replaces with an empty suit in O'Koren.

Wow, so now the enablers give props to Eddie for recruiting, what, in bulk? Oooh, 14. Beat still my heart. I didn't realize that stealing kids from Sacred Heart and UNC-Wilm was the way to respectability. But, then again, I guess you have to do that after you find out that your Year 1 roster stuffers are terrible and your one semi-real recruit bails on you after his soph year.

Hey, let's hope that the staff can rally the boys and break through the 10-win barrier in Year 3. And that Eddie and the Cruisers found B1G talent in kids that all the other P5 schools passed on. Just keep that spin going about how it was Mission Impossible for a million-dollar coach. Yeah, laugh at Mullin's college experience. Go ahead, but you think that he'll name an NBA lifer as his #1 assistant? No one could be that stupid, right?

 

[ruman]

Originally posted by RutgHoops:

Originally posted by Greene Rice FIG:
calling you out here.....

Eddie Jordan is offering a chance to play basketball in the B1G. Anyone can get 14 kids to agree to that.

How many of the 14 kids could crack a rotation at Michigan, Wisconsin, Maryland, Michigan state or even Penn state? That is the lithmus test.

It seems like he is settling and not recruiting....no different than his farcical (sp?) assistant coach search.

Look at all the people he has brought in and have subsequently left or not made it.

When 1 of the most important HS head coaches in NJ says Eddie doesn't return phone calls you know you have a problem.

I wish I could be like you and Scarlet Shack and see the glass full.

In Eddie's first two years there are encouraging signs and troubling signs. While I am certainly a glass half full person I am not in any way stating that "everything is perfect, what is everyone complaining about".

I don't care who RU hired in April of 2013. The first two years post-Rice were going to be a sh-t show and Year 3 was going to be a roster full of frosh and sophs. Expecting anything different is simply setting an expectation to bash our HC.

I am fortunate to have contacts here in DC. Both AAU and HS coaches. Some former/current CBB Asst's as well. To a man the sentiment is "Eddie can coach". Recruit? No idea. But the guy can coach.

If you do have contacts there, I am curious about this question. Two years ago, it would have seemed that Jordan would use the DMV and his AAU connections (he did coach a team for a time) to help rebuild here. Other the Etou, I cannot recall one recruit from that area that we have even been involved with since he took the job. That seems awfully strange. Any thoughts?

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Originally posted by RutgHoops:

Originally posted by Greene Rice FIG:
calling you out here.....

Eddie Jordan is offering a chance to play basketball in the B1G. Anyone can get 14 kids to agree to that.

How many of the 14 kids could crack a rotation at Michigan, Wisconsin, Maryland, Michigan state or even Penn state? That is the lithmus test.

It seems like he is settling and not recruiting....no different than his farcical (sp?) assistant coach search.

Look at all the people he has brought in and have subsequently left or not made it.

When 1 of the most important HS head coaches in NJ says Eddie doesn't return phone calls you know you have a problem.

I wish I could be like you and Scarlet Shack and see the glass full.

In Eddie's first two years there are encouraging signs and troubling signs. While I am certainly a glass half full person I am not in any way stating that "everything is perfect, what is everyone complaining about".

I don't care who RU hired in April of 2013. The first two years post-Rice were going to be a sh-t show and Year 3 was going to be a roster full of frosh and sophs. Expecting anything different is simply setting an expectation to bash our HC.

I am fortunate to have contacts here in DC. Both AAU and HS coaches. Some former/current CBB Asst's as well. To a man the sentiment is "Eddie can coach". Recruit? No idea. But the guy can coach.

1. can he motivate
2. can he coach the defensive side of the court

I need posts like this to put doubt in my thesis. I only have 1 contact so the sample size is low. I do have 2 eyes and I don't like what i see defensively...makes my stomach turn and the last 5 home game tickets are still in my ticket book.

 

[RutgHoops]

Originally posted by ruman:

Originally posted by RutgHoops:

Originally posted by Greene Rice FIG:
calling you out here.....

Eddie Jordan is offering a chance to play basketball in the B1G. Anyone can get 14 kids to agree to that.

How many of the 14 kids could crack a rotation at Michigan, Wisconsin, Maryland, Michigan state or even Penn state? That is the lithmus test.

It seems like he is settling and not recruiting....no different than his farcical (sp?) assistant coach search.

Look at all the people he has brought in and have subsequently left or not made it.

When 1 of the most important HS head coaches in NJ says Eddie doesn't return phone calls you know you have a problem.

I wish I could be like you and Scarlet Shack and see the glass full.

In Eddie's first two years there are encouraging signs and troubling signs. While I am certainly a glass half full person I am not in any way stating that "everything is perfect, what is everyone complaining about".

I don't care who RU hired in April of 2013. The first two years post-Rice were going to be a sh-t show and Year 3 was going to be a roster full of frosh and sophs. Expecting anything different is simply setting an expectation to bash our HC.

I am fortunate to have contacts here in DC. Both AAU and HS coaches. Some former/current CBB Asst's as well. To a man the sentiment is "Eddie can coach". Recruit? No idea. But the guy can coach.

If you do have contacts there, I am curious about this question. Two years ago, it would have seemed that Jordan would use the DMV and his AAU connections (he did coach a team for a time) to help rebuild here. Other the Etou, I cannot recall one recruit from that area that we have even been involved with since he took the job. That seems awfully strange. Any thoughts?

Was closer than many knew to flipping Trimble from MD. Foreman is a DMV kid who played for Boo Williams, a major Northern VA powerhouse AAU program. Diallo is a Team Loaded kid which is another Northern VA powerhouse AAU program. Hargrave, where Kejuan Johnson and Goode play is a Virginia school. Etou was obviously a DC Assault kid. Williams, Foreman and Daniels are all NY kids (so the idea Eddie is not recruiting locally is a joke).

It certainly did not help Eddie when DC Assault disbanded after Curtis Malone was arrested. But he still has folks down there opening doors and pointing him to kids. North Carolina (RJohnson/MInlend) players are known by the DMV AAU coaches. As an aside Cox is having similar problems. Since Butts flipped Rhode Island hasn't gotten any other DMV kids and isn't currently listed with any for the '16 class.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Originally posted by Greene Rice FIG:
calling you out here.....

Eddie Jordan is offering a chance to play basketball in the B1G. Anyone can get 14 kids to agree to that.

How many of the 14 kids could crack a rotation at Michigan, Wisconsin, Maryland, Michigan state or even Penn state? That is the lithmus test.

It seems like he is settling and not recruiting....no different than his farcical (sp?) assistant coach search.

Look at all the people he has brought in and have subsequently left or not made it.

When 1 of the most important HS head coaches in NJ says Eddie doesn't return phone calls you know you have a problem.

I wish I could be like you and Scarlet Shack and see the glass full.

Let me get this straight.....Rutgers has not been in the NCAA tourney for 25 years, not been in the NIT in 8 years. Two years removed from the Rice scandal......AND YOU EXPECT Jordan to come in and immediately recruit against Michigan, Wisconsin and MSU in the BIG. FIG......Give me some of that stuff you are smoking....lol

He is settling ?? Did he go after Briscoe hard ? Did he go after Freeman hard ? Did he get a top 10 point guard in Sanders ?

After Rice....This thing is going to take time. Anyone expecting recruits to start beating down the doors to get into Rutgers is CLUELESS. They were not coming here for 25 years (with some exceptions) and you expect them to start now....two years after Rice !!!!

 

[RutgHoops]

Originally posted by Greene Rice FIG:

Originally posted by RutgHoops:

Originally posted by Greene Rice FIG:
calling you out here.....

Eddie Jordan is offering a chance to play basketball in the B1G. Anyone can get 14 kids to agree to that.

How many of the 14 kids could crack a rotation at Michigan, Wisconsin, Maryland, Michigan state or even Penn state? That is the lithmus test.

It seems like he is settling and not recruiting....no different than his farcical (sp?) assistant coach search.

Look at all the people he has brought in and have subsequently left or not made it.

When 1 of the most important HS head coaches in NJ says Eddie doesn't return phone calls you know you have a problem.

I wish I could be like you and Scarlet Shack and see the glass full.

In Eddie's first two years there are encouraging signs and troubling signs. While I am certainly a glass half full person I am not in any way stating that "everything is perfect, what is everyone complaining about".

I don't care who RU hired in April of 2013. The first two years post-Rice were going to be a sh-t show and Year 3 was going to be a roster full of frosh and sophs. Expecting anything different is simply setting an expectation to bash our HC.

I am fortunate to have contacts here in DC. Both AAU and HS coaches. Some former/current CBB Asst's as well. To a man the sentiment is "Eddie can coach". Recruit? No idea. But the guy can coach.

1. can he motivate
2. can he coach the defensive side of the court

I need posts like this to put doubt in my thesis. I only have 1 contact so the sample size is low. I do have 2 eyes and I don't like what i see defensively...makes my stomach turn and the last 5 home game tickets are still in my ticket book.

Eddie can coach. Offense. Defense. Eddie can coach. I have zero worries there.

Like everyone else I am not sure how good of a recruiter he is and it is certainly fair to question the make up of his staff. Although Macon is known as a solid recruiter in NYC circles and Vetrone, at one time, was well known "on the circuit". After seeing how Greg Lewis progressed and Doorson came along I have come to question "less" the O'Koren hiring as he is our big man guy.

 

[RUJMM78]

This thread personifies the futility surrounding the mens basketball program.Recruiting is the life blood of college sports and in NJ/NY Metro area Rutgers simply isn't relevant on or off the court.I never will forget the comment of a assistant coach under Waters who asked at a summer camp " who is this Hurley guy"?The lack of attention to detail and urgency in beating the bushes for top recruits has resulted in a disconnect with high school and AAU coaches.Its almost like that the Rutgers coaching staff don't understand that they have to out work the competition when it comes to recruiting and in player development.

In the end decades of futility have been allowed to happen because of the absence of leadership by Rutgers Administrators.The coaches hired for the most part were rarely the first choice and the salaries offered were not competitive with the competition Rutgers was playing.

 

[MADHAT1]

I tend to disregard the Patrick's coach's statement because of how he had to backtrack part of his accusation and surprisingly
he clarified recruiting efforts that have St Pat's grads in their program.
Could be that contact was more like who kisses my ass so I recommend their school to my players.
Once he realized two of St Pat's ex players were part of schools that didn't kiss his butt like he wanted, knew
he better kiss theirs before they said something to the media .

 

[Abro1975]

It's now called "The Patrick School". It hasn't been St. Patricks for a few years now.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Ohio,

I never said that....just downplaying a quantity number of recruits rutghoops brought up.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Originally posted by Greene Rice FIG:
Ohio,

I never said that....just downplaying a quantity number of recruits rutghoops brought up.

FIG........

What type of hit do you think Rutgers recruiting took because of the Rice scandal? I think that it is at least a 3 year hit because the guys being recruited now were in the 9th or 10th grade when they saw the tapes and read all the negative press.

Keep in mind, recruits were not busting down the door prior to Rice turning the program into the laughingstock of college basketball just 2 years ago.

The coach and recruiters need to get guys that want to be here to take on the challenge and uncover some gems like the coaches in the football program.

 

[MADHAT1]

Originally posted by Abro1975:
It's now called "The Patrick School". It hasn't been St. Patricks for a few years now.

Shaheen Holloway (Seton Hall assistant) and Grant Billmeier ( Fairleigh Dickinson assistant) are St. Pat's grads, not the
Patrick School and that's why I posted that they were St Pat's grads
The Patrick School was started by people associated with St Patrick HS after St Patrick shut it's doors ..

edit: think you thought I meant St Pat's when I posted "the Patrick's coach's" , but I didn't and that's why I left St out of "Patrick coach's"
This post was edited on 3/31 6:05 PM by MADHAT1

 

[MADHAT1]

I wonder what type of assistant would be willing to come to Rutgers to work under Eddie right after the Rice scandal
and how down the program was.
Might of slowed down their moving up the ladder, or have been a drop from where they were at.
We can claim Eddie doesn't have the right guys to help him win, but would those "right guys" take a chance
on Rutgers knowing what direction their careers might take if RU didn't support their MBB program enough
to make it easier for them to recruit the type of talent to change RU from a poor program into a good one.

So saying ( name school) got him, must be qualified with : would "him " have accepted a RU assistant job if offered?
Sometimes the people you say Rutgers should get, don't want to be hired by RU

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

ZERO CHANCE that a young hot shot recruiter would come to Rutgers after the Rice thing.

Jordan was lucky to retain Macon and get Vetrone (fired at FDU) as the 2 main recruiters. The usual negative posters on the board slammed Jordan for how long the hires took. It took long because he was trying to convince guys to come on board. It's no surprise that there were no takers at the Rice fiasco, the low salary and poor facilities.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

The assistants needed at the level we want to succeed is far beyond the scope of the current basketball budget....the attempts last spring were aggressive enough and expanded beyond what we typically see, but not overwhelmingly high enough to pull the top level assistants to A) leave their situation essentially for a lateral move and B) not worth the money to not have assurances that the length of their stay would be worth the risk, vs reupping and getting a raise from their current situation.

The article in its entirety makes no sense, since most HS coaches clearly know they are a placemat for the 12 month cycle of basketball....as much as many coaches believe they are critical to anyone's recruitment, they assuredly know they are not and to phrase it any other way is absurd.

Chris Mullin isn't going to know who this coach is, they key is whether the assistants hired at SJU will.....if they do, then eventually the flow begins, but it's another lack of follow up by Carino that once reported is then clarified, updated, corrected, but does enough damage that if someone doesn't question it, it would have been taken as factual, when it was 100% wrong.