Chad Leistikow tweet regarding medical redshirt - Janarion Grant

[JerseyShoreKnight]

Hawkeye sports columnist for DM Register and IC Press Citizen posted about Iowa's receiver, Matt VanderBerg, who had a season ending foot injury on Monday but this applies to Grant as well.

"NEWS: Without commenting on specific case, B1G confirms that injured player w/ 4 games in 1st half of season qualifies for medical hardship."

I thought because it was over 30% of the season he was done. That's great news.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

it is 30% but you forgot to count the Championship game.

 

[BeantownKnight]

it is 30% but you forgot to count the Championship game.

I believe that's only if your team makes the post-season.

 

[RU-05]

I believe that's only if your team makes the post-season.

People seem to be saying no to that.

All signs pointing towards Grant being eligible for waiver.

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

I believe that's only if your team makes the post-season.

That's correct. The reporter clarified that in another tweet.

 

[brgRC90]

I hope it's true.

 

[koleszar]

I believe that's only if your team makes the post-season.

No your wrong. Bowl/playoff games don't count, but if your conference holds a conference championship game that counts even if you don't participate in it. 30% of 13 games is 3.9. The NCAA rounds all fractions up. Lots of media types out there are spreading misinformation. It seems they either can't read or chose not to do any research. Which you know, would require actual work.

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

No your wrong. Bowl/playoff games don't count, but if your conference holds a conference championship game that counts even if you don't participate in it. 30% of 13 games is 3.9. The NCAA rounds all fractions up. Lots of media types out there are spreading misinformation. It seems they either can't read or chose not to do any research. Which you know, would require actual work.

B1G official spokesman says otherwise. Says that only if Iowa were to make conference championship that it would count towards total games for their receivers medical redshirt. Only bowls do not count all together.

 

[koleszar]

B1G official spokesman says otherwise. Says that only if Iowa were to make conference championship that it would count towards total games for their receivers medical redshirt. Only bowls do not count all together.

Then he's following his own made up rules. The NCAA mandates that no postseason contests(bowls/playoffs) shall count toward games played when calculating a medical hardship waiver. But if a conference should hold a conference championship game all parties within that conference will be credited with that extra game.

Think about how stupid the B1G spokesman sounds. It only counts if you make the championship? So you reward those on good teams that get hurt,. but punish those on bad teams that get hurt. That's pretty firggin stupid the B1G might want to get a new spokesman. He seriously needs to buy a rules and regulation book because he's dead wrong according to the NCAA. You know the guys who put the rules and regulations in place.

 

[lilphilw]

Any idea as to when we would get an answer for grant?

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

Then he's following his own made up rules. The NCAA mandates that no postseason contests(bowls/playoffs) shall count toward games played when calculating a medical hardship waiver. But if a conference should hold a conference championship game all parties within that conference will be credited with that extra game.

Think about how stupid the B1G spokesman sounds. It only counts if you make the championship? So you reward those on good teams that get hurt,. but punish those on bad teams that get hurt. That's pretty firggin stupid the B1G might want to get a new spokesman. He seriously needs to buy a rules and regulation book because he's dead wrong according to the NCAA. You know the guys who put the rules and regulations in place.

No, they're not making up their own rules. But even if they are, when a hardship waiver is filed, the conference judges on it first. So if that's their rule and not the NCAA's then they can go by it. If they are unsure, they give it to the NCAA. So they can rule based off of their criteria without any NCAA involvement. That rule may not exist when the NCAA hears a case, but it does when the B1G hears it, should the player's team make the conference tournament.

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

Any idea as to when we would get an answer for grant?

The waiver gets filed after the season so I would say late spring/summer. It depends on how fast the case is heard and ruled on.

 

[Knight Shift]

B1G official spokesman says otherwise. Says that only if Iowa were to make conference championship that it would count towards total games for their receivers medical redshirt. Only bowls do not count all together.

Does it matter? 30% of 12 is 3.6, and you still round up to 4. The rule say played in no more than the greater of 3 or 30% of games, and that would translate to playing in no more than 4 games. We covered this in 1-3 other threads, unless we are all way off base, seems like it is a given.

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

Does it matter? 30% of 12 is 3.6, and you still round up to 4. The rule say played in no more than the greater of 3 or 30% of games, and that would translate to playing in no more than 4 games. We covered this in 1-3 other threads, unless we are all way off base, seems like it is a given.

Clearly it's not a given if people are still debating it in this thread. But thanks for your input buddy.

 

[Knight Shift]

Clearly it's not a given if people are still debating it in this thread. But thanks for your input buddy.

You seem to be the only one debating it. Find another buddy.

 

[RU848789]

According to this article, which actually quotes the NCAA rules, anyone lost for the season due to injury in the 4th game of a 12 or 13 game season would be eligible for a medical redshirt. They quote the rounding up procedure, i.e., 30% of 12 games is 3.6, which rounds to 4 games (and 30% of 13 games is 3.9 which rounds to 4 games, also - and they make it clear that everyone, now gets credit for a 13-game season if there's a championship game, even if the team doesn't play in that game). So, not more than 30% is not more than 4 games, so going down for the season in game 4 should equal a redshirt. Not sure why it has to be this complicated, but that's the NCAA I guess.

According to the NCAA, to qualify for a medical redshirt, a player must satisfy two primary requirements: 1) The injury must occur in the first half of the season (VandeBerg's did); 2) He must not play in more than 30 percent of the team's scheduled games.

The second one would seem to be tricky, but the language in Article 12.8.4.3.6.2 within the NCAA handbook states that the computation "shall be rounded to the next whole number." Because VandeBerg would have played in four of the scheduled 13 regular-season games (the Big Ten Conference title game counts, regardless if Iowa plays in it), he is at, but not over, the limit. For NCAA purposes, 30 percent is equal to 3.9 games and would round up to four.

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...-matt-vandeberg-suffers-broken-foot/91156594/

 

[Knight Shift]

Sargeant has a new article up confirming the story above. Janarion Grant should have a very good chance of getting a medical redshirt, if he wants one. Will not be determined until the Spring.
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...gible_for_a_medical_r.html#incart_river_index