Cheapskates better not sell out again for PSU
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I’ll stick to blaming the fans who consistently short change Rutgers and refuse to show up for games, then complain about the outcomes.
You’re looking at this in a bubble. This wasn’t a handful of ticket holders selling their seats, this was a massive number doing it to the point we had probably a 60/40 RU split excluding the students. Unless there was some STH party I’m unaware of or a bunch of 50 year olds decided to spend Saturday night at the frats instead, this was about as perfect of a storm for decent attendance as we could have expected, and we blew it.
Perfect weather, full day to tailgate, not a hot vacation time, no holidays, top 5 opponent that we’ve beaten in recent memory, most heralded QB recruit in program history getting the start. Just pathetic turnout given the circumstances.
It will never change if we end all of these games outnumbered against the teams we need to recruit against, period
perfect weather. There’s the caveat. There’s better things for people to do today. Just the sad state our football team is at right now.
And again, I don’t think the sellers are to blame. It’s the lack of demand to blame.
I find it very disappointing now
it is hard enough when we lose, but to have to hear what we hear now is painful as a fan
Really not enjoying it, but will carry on
Everyone gets that because you keep repeating it. Demand wouldn’t matter if people would use their tickets, not sure what’s so hard to understand about that. Demand only matters if half of our ticket holders decide to sell out, sit at home and post on the boards instead. Go to games and the resale demand is 100% irrelevant.
We really using the “people had better things to do because of the weather” excuse for an early November night game now? The yard work can wait, it’s almost winter. Apple and pumpkin picking are over. Nobody’s going to the shore. Doubt anyone booked camping trips. Are they hosting bonfires? Well guess what, they can do it in the parking lots and then go to a football game after! A win-win!
Go on stubhub. Every college football game had 1000s of tickets available. This isn’t a Rutgers issue.
the Rutgers issue is no one wants to buy
There’s no getting through to you, you’re just parroting the same thing and ignoring any follow up. I assume it’s at least partially because you’re one of the people who sold your tickets.
There were no mythical better things to do because of the weather that led to half of the STHs selling.
Half of STHs selling can absolutely influence the game and on a broader scale recruiting and retention.
The students showed up and they certainly had other things they could be doing that would put this board’s hypothetical combined plans to shame.
Michigan fans showed up. They could have been at Costco picking up more Michigan clothing.
The AD has invested unprecedented amounts in the program. They’ve shown up.
Rutgers fans didn’t show up and refuse to donate at sufficient levels, then want to blame the team for not winning. That’s the issue.
agree to disagree.
fix our on field issues and our off field issues will right themselves.
Win some damn ballgames and ppl will show. One conference win at home in 7 years and that was sorry a$$ Indiana. 14 years without beating a ranked opponent. Always "rebuilding". Add to that the ridiculous cost of attending in person. Parking is what, 40,50 bucks ? What's it, 4 bucks for a bottle of water ? What they charge for a bag of M&M peanuts nowadays? Be cool if someone would post the concession prices.
Looking at some shots from the crowd it looks like 2/3 Michigan fans in the lower bowl. The price of losing for so long.
I stayed until end of 3rd Q instead of halftime so I'm feeling it today. Already at work but appreciate your concern. I saved myself 90 minutes leaving early. Still got stuck crawling out of Black to 18.
I'm in 128 and the atmosphere for the 1h was incredible. We had very few UM fans around us but come the 2h it seemed like each UM group had one drunk obnoxious dude that you wanted to knock out.
I'll be at PSU. I'll be miserable at how many PSU fans are in our stadium but I'll be there. I'm hoping for a miserable cold, windy, and rainy day.
I'll be at PSU. I'll be miserable at how many PSU fans are in our stadium but I'll be there. I'm hoping for a miserable cold, windy, and rainy day.
Our tickets are in 107. We were the minority as Rutgers fans last night, and it was not even close.
Truth. Looking across to the west side from my seats on the east side, 107 and 108 definitely looked like a heavy visiting fan presence.
I was pretty shocked at how bad it was. Luckily directly around us were some pretty nice families that didn't even seem to care about football. There were some really obnoxious fans a few rows away though.
This is the biggest straw man arguemnt that exists on this board. The people who are complaining aren't the people who refuse to show up. They are two different groups.
Hell no, because we don’t have much of a running game. Need a clear non windy day to have a chance.
Had 3 Mich fans sitting in front of us. The younger one gave me the stare down the entire game. He’s lucky I don’t fight 1 year old babies.
This discussion has been going on for decades.Perceived elite football programs like Michigan and Penn State will have their alumni fans show up on the road and at Rutgers its more noticable because there always will be plenty of avaiable tickets..Rutgers remains a football program trying to build a program with 2 /3 star recruits which is a losing strategy in the BIG Ten.Embarrassing losses occur too frequently as seen by the medai constantly mentioning the time periods between defeating a ranked opponent or even a league rival at home.The notion that Rutgers can successfully compete without a running attack or a pass rush is truly wishful thinking.Recruiting is the life blood of college athletics and in NJ top tier tercruits tend to choose out of state schools which means Rutgers has no strong recruiting base.Some fans want to believe the NIL is the reason for the poor recruiting.My response is that poor recruiting existed prior to NIL and the transfer portal.
Enjoy the extra $50 you get from selling PSU then I guess?
Nothing clueless about it. It’s embarrassing consistently having opponents march in and take over the stadium and it’s embarrassing that half of the fanbase shows no pride in or willingness to help build the program. Just excuses and calling the people who actually go idiots. Typical
For the entire night I didn't encounter one obnoxious UM fan. Not one. This includes the walk to/from the lot. Some were quite friendly and engaging. Most just minded their own business, which is fine. Sure, they cheered for their team, but not in a disrespectful manner.
I guess it varies by section?
It’s helpful to get longer term perspective on the issue. I’d just add/clarify that NIL isn’t the sole issue, but the lack of support at home games definitely impacts recruiting regardless. NIL just amplified any lacking fan support.
We had 2 separate ones nearly start fights, one of whom had to be separated from what I assume was his girlfriend after because they started arguing. Can’t remember ever seeing anything similar at a Rutgers game, not even in the student section
No you are an idiot not knowing that well over 50% of the stadium seats are unsold to begin with. There were just 21,000 season tickets sold. That's it. Rutgers is the biggest sellers of Rutgers tickets on StubHub yet you are calling out people that actually pay for season tickets. Take your stupid argument up with Hobbs. Stop yelling at the small, loyal fanbase. Additionally nobody actually picks who they sell to. It's simply supply and demand. Another stupid point of yours.
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Wait a minute. I put my tickets up for sale on StubHub, and they are available to everyone to buy i.e. Rutgers fans and fans of the opponent. Who buys the tickets is based on who wants them the most.
If (when?) RU is successful in football, there's a good chance RU fans will buy those tickets. The tickets will be in demand. Visiting fans and locals who follow our opponents may still want those tickets, but you have to think that appeal drops a good deal if we field a superior team, consistently. Otherwise, why would a visiting fan spend those $ knowing his team will lose on the road; easier to just watch it on TV.
If (when?) RU is successful in football, there's a good chance RU fans will buy those tickets. The tickets will be in demand. Visiting fans and locals who follow our opponents may still want those tickets, but you have to think that appeal drops a good deal if we field a superior team, consistently. Otherwise, why would a visiting fan spend those $ knowing his team will lose on the road; easier to just watch it on TV.
I was actually surprised by the number of Michigan fans at first. However there are a lot of local UM alumni around here (including relatives of Rutgers grads). That was most of the fans we encountered. On top of that their families were mix loyalties and that is what the Penn St game will be like. That being said there were a lot of Walmart Wolverines as well.
My family has a bunch of Penn St alumni and everyone wants to go to the game. My guess is there will be up to 35% PSU fans. If they were ranked higher (like Michigan), it would push 50%. At the end of the day it is not a bad thing because the stadium was full and I thought the overall experience was fun last night (mostly due to it being a night game).
My family has a bunch of Penn St alumni and everyone wants to go to the game. My guess is there will be up to 35% PSU fans. If they were ranked higher (like Michigan), it would push 50%. At the end of the day it is not a bad thing because the stadium was full and I thought the overall experience was fun last night (mostly due to it being a night game).
Thank goodness you’re here to tell me how well over 50% of the seats on the lower visitor sideline are unsold! At least I think that’s what you’re saying because that side got taken over last night. I definitely believe you too because I’m incapable of comparing it to our other home games where far less visiting fans were in those same seats!
Let’s keep pretending it’s a demand problem and working under the assumption that it’s a very small number of STHs selling/not showing up, and 100% of secondary market demand is from opposing teams.
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There are plenty of unsold tickets in every section. Plenty! 4 right in front of us and entire row two rows in front of us. Section 103. Been empty for years. When we play crappy teams they stay empty. Other games it's new people every game some Rutgers. some times the opponents fans, some neutral fans just out to watch the game.
You are crying about the small numbers of season ticket holders who sell their tickets but ignore the 30,000+ that Rutgers dumps on the market. Again take your crying nonsense and complain to Hobbs.
Win on the field and this will change immediately.
How do we do that ? Improve Recruiting { not helping that next year’s class is shaping up to be bad} and work the Portal better. Get a QB and more OL like DiRenzo and WR Ryan and we improve greatly.
My unsolicited advice to the OP is to give it up. You are not winning this argument. Several individuals have tried to point out the root cause of the real problems concerning attendance and recruiting but you seem unable to change your focus. Its a bad look to criticize the behavior of other season ticket holders when overall demand is so low.
This absolute garbage.
There was a point when we were up that UM chanting was louder. It was absolutely disgraceful. That is 110% on the "fans" who sell their tickets on the west side of the stadium.
Sorry but being a fan means being there 0-12 as much as when they win, never mind when it's 77 degrees in November and you are playing the #5 team in the country and are WINNING for crissakes.
There are a ton of fanbases across America where opposing fans would struggle to buy tickets for a 4-4 team.
We just have a bunch of weasels who would sell.
The fanbase is beaten . Worst than this team . You can’t keep getting on the fans . I think many fans are really starting to doubt if we will ever stop stinking up this league.
I am getting close to that . I still believe schiano is the guy , but I believe less than I did 2 years ago . If he can’t do it, I am not sure if anyone can
To be fair, the background of that play was the designated Michigan fan area
But yes they had a lot of fans besides
They are being deliberately obtuse.
It was shmuck season ticket holders in 106, 107, 108 who can afford $4-500 season tickets, parking, concessions, etc but just HAD to list on StubHub against a fanbase that travels because they couldn't get their sad behinds in the seats against a top 5 team on 70 degree November night.
They really needed that money I bet or just couldn't get out of their prior commitment. So what's the solution? Sell to Michigan fans.
Because you could really see a fanbase with much less money and equal suckitude like Nebraska pulling a stunt, like that, can't you? Of course not.
They have fans. We have "fans." Thus the difference.
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