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Not a CC fan but no problem with his comments and, honestly, he should say something.
Why would anyone wish he said nothing?
The only way we get to a level of our goal peer schools, athletically and academically, is a working relationship with Trenton.
Hopefully Hobbs has enough clout with CC to make that happen.
The only way we get to a level of our goal peer schools, athletically and academically, is a working relationship with Trenton.
Hopefully Hobbs has enough clout with CC to make that happen.
"The breathless media coverage of all of this — and every time there's a problem or some indication of a problem, some deep-seated problem at Rutgers — man, you guys gotta find something else to do."
Christe will be gone come 1/2018 and our dysfunctional relationship with Trenton will continue on and on ...
Not sure I am in favor of hiring the SHU law school dean but if its to keep the NCAA away during the release of the investigation resultes...
Not sure I am in favor of hiring the SHU law school dean but if its to keep the NCAA away during the release of the investigation resultes...
Not a huge Christie fan (like some of what he's done, don't like some), but people have to recognize that we want the Governor of our State to be interested in RU and praising what is going on, as he did. Here's the full quote from CC back in September, which I liked:
"Listen, it's not my place to be micromanaging Rutgers," Christie said. "The press does that well enough."
He then offered a scathing critique of media coverage.
"You guys can micromanage Rutgers. I have a president there, I have a Board of Governors, if they need my help or my advice, they'll call, and if I see something that I think is completely outrageous, I'll call them," Christie said at the time.
"They're dealing with disciplinary problems with teenagers. This is not shocking, you know, I'm a father of four (and) having disciplinary problems with teenagers is the normal course on a college campus," he said, adding, "The breathless media coverage of all of this — and every time there's a problem or some indication of a problem, some deep-seated problem at Rutgers — man, you guys gotta find something else to do."
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss..._rutgers_athletic_dire.html#incart_river_home
I don't think it's common for governors to comment on AD hires at state universities, but as a general matter I don't think it's good or bad.
Coming from Christie (and, yes, my bias probably is showing here), it does kind of sound like him saying "This is my guy. Don't mess with him." I'm not sure that's good, but in reality he's only going to be governor until January, 2018, so it's not like he'd be able to punish RU if Hobbs doesn't work out and gets fired.
Coming from Christie (and, yes, my bias probably is showing here), it does kind of sound like him saying "This is my guy. Don't mess with him." I'm not sure that's good, but in reality he's only going to be governor until January, 2018, so it's not like he'd be able to punish RU if Hobbs doesn't work out and gets fired.
I was dreading the link, but think he said all the right things.
As a person who soured on Christie pretty quickly, I agree 100% with everything he said after the arrests and after the Carroo incident. Here's what he said, and he is dead on:
"I've known Dean Hobbs for many years and he has always been a person of great character and judgment, as well as an effective leader and manager. I can think of few people better suited to step into the role of athletic director," Christie said.
"Rutgers is fortunate to have him and I congratulate him on his selection," he said. "On a personal note, I also want to acknowledge Dean Hobbs for the service he has given to the State of New Jersey over the past year and a half as Ombudsman for the Office of the Governor. He has been a valued resource for the office during an important time and I thank him for his willingness to serve."
"I've known Dean Hobbs for many years and he has always been a person of great character and judgment, as well as an effective leader and manager. I can think of few people better suited to step into the role of athletic director," Christie said.
"Rutgers is fortunate to have him and I congratulate him on his selection," he said. "On a personal note, I also want to acknowledge Dean Hobbs for the service he has given to the State of New Jersey over the past year and a half as Ombudsman for the Office of the Governor. He has been a valued resource for the office during an important time and I thank him for his willingness to serve."
Who in NJ politics isn't?
You want the Gov. being interested, whoever it is. CC is handling it all very well.
Let's get a few things straight. Hobbs is a Democrat. He is not a political sycophant. He was appointed to a position to deal with ethics issues, a part-time job. Anyone who knows Dean Hobbs knows that his reputation is impeccable. Sounds like a good guy to clean up political messes.
Stop casting stones on this one.
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/14/04/18/meet-christie-s-new-ombudsman
Party: Democrat
Experience:Seton Hall Law School Dean and chair of the state Commission on Investigation, which in recent years has been more focused on criminal issues than public corruption.
Salary: $75,000 for the part-time job. He is not resigning from his dean's position.
Relationship to Christie: They have known each other professionally for the last 15 years through Christie's involvement as an alumnus of Seton Hall Law. Hobbs said they have never socialized.
Connection to Christie World: Bill Baroni, who testified (falsely, it is now believed) that the bridge lanes were closed for a traffic study, has taught at Seton Hall Law. Hobbs said Baroni informed the school he would not teach this semester, given the scandal, but Hobbs didn't rule out the possibility that he could teach there in the future.
Hobbs' First Order of Business: Closing the political arm of Christie's Office of Intergovernmental Affairs, which Bridgegate witnesses Bill Stepien and Bridget Kelly ran. Documents indicate that employees of this office were involved in both wooing mayors so they'd endorse Christie and punishing mayors who didn't support him, on the taxpayer's dime.
How He'll Handle Whistle-blowers: "I'll be a resource where people can go" with concerns, he said, or if "they need guidance for established best practices."
Other Ethics Issues He'll Address: Top-level Christie officials will undergo ethics training, a chief ethics officer will be appointed, and a policy will be created on employees' use of personal email accounts for government work.
Stop casting stones on this one.
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/14/04/18/meet-christie-s-new-ombudsman
Party: Democrat
Experience:Seton Hall Law School Dean and chair of the state Commission on Investigation, which in recent years has been more focused on criminal issues than public corruption.
Salary: $75,000 for the part-time job. He is not resigning from his dean's position.
Relationship to Christie: They have known each other professionally for the last 15 years through Christie's involvement as an alumnus of Seton Hall Law. Hobbs said they have never socialized.
Connection to Christie World: Bill Baroni, who testified (falsely, it is now believed) that the bridge lanes were closed for a traffic study, has taught at Seton Hall Law. Hobbs said Baroni informed the school he would not teach this semester, given the scandal, but Hobbs didn't rule out the possibility that he could teach there in the future.
Hobbs' First Order of Business: Closing the political arm of Christie's Office of Intergovernmental Affairs, which Bridgegate witnesses Bill Stepien and Bridget Kelly ran. Documents indicate that employees of this office were involved in both wooing mayors so they'd endorse Christie and punishing mayors who didn't support him, on the taxpayer's dime.
How He'll Handle Whistle-blowers: "I'll be a resource where people can go" with concerns, he said, or if "they need guidance for established best practices."
Other Ethics Issues He'll Address: Top-level Christie officials will undergo ethics training, a chief ethics officer will be appointed, and a policy will be created on employees' use of personal email accounts for government work.
@BeKnighted
Maybe sleep on it first, but connect the dots.
AD Hobbs will be the likely the next President of RU
in '16 or '17, when Barchi is 62ish, and steps aside to
finish some neuro-resaerch, etc.
Time to get used to AD Hobbs is my point.
Maybe sleep on it first, but connect the dots.
AD Hobbs will be the likely the next President of RU
in '16 or '17, when Barchi is 62ish, and steps aside to
finish some neuro-resaerch, etc.
Time to get used to AD Hobbs is my point.
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Interesting. I'm trying to think of an AD who became university president, but it's not a crazy idea, particularly in New Jersey.
If Hobbsdoes become our next University president, that would be great for athletics, no?
We wouldn't be taking a chance on hiring a guy who is anti-athletics.
Here's hoping to a good future together (Hobbs and RU)
I am surprised he discussed RU given our non-New Hampshire location.
Nice to see Rutgers had the class to dump Flood by phone then not allow him to meet with his players
@BeKnighted, most of the best College AD's have resisted the move to higher school posts,
with a few exceptions like the Vanderbilt example someone else posted, or the great Oliver
Luck moving from the AD position at his alma mater to the #2 most powerful administrator
in all of college sports. he has a legal and finance background, not unlike our new AD Hobbs.
Good point you make that it is NOT the norm (my words, paraphrase).
Ciao.
with a few exceptions like the Vanderbilt example someone else posted, or the great Oliver
Luck moving from the AD position at his alma mater to the #2 most powerful administrator
in all of college sports. he has a legal and finance background, not unlike our new AD Hobbs.
Good point you make that it is NOT the norm (my words, paraphrase).
Ciao.
Thank gooddness he is low in the polls, he had to say something to get his name in the news.
Outside of the money we got for the parking garage plan with Lesniak I'd prefer not getting much money from the state. The more you take the more you're beholden and the more they'll but into your business. Just keep them off our backs. If this guy is suppose to be as good a fundraiser as has been said here then get the private money to do what need to get done.
Grow up and stop whining about having to pay your fair share for pension and HC benefits.
The state's decline in contribution to RU since the early 90s is directly proportional to our decline in overall prestige and standing.
Saying that we WANT less state money is lunacy.
The key to puzzle is finding people who can get the money AND keep the crooks off our back.
Did you see his endorsement from NH's largest newspaper. NH is going to be interesting over the next few months!
For the academic side of the school sure I'd take the money but for the athletic side of the school no I'd rather not. It will all come with strings and be used as a political football on their whims and fancies. Finding someone to get money and keep them off our backs and out of our business seems very unrealistic.
Also hypothetically say this guy can do it, what happens when he goes. Then the next guy has to be able to do it as well and so on and so forth. I'd rather the money come from private resources when it comes to athletics.
It took Julie 3 years to raise $3MM for a baseball dugout
You want to raise $75MM privately? good luck with that
CC is a Domer, you think he's going to go out of his way for RU? He already said if RU wants big time athletics it's not coming from any state money. Christie endorsed this guy, oh boy.......is it me, who is going to hire a football coach (we're in the B1G?)
Was not a big fan of the announcement of Hobbs initially, but in thinking about it could be a very good move, the AD's role and responsibilities have changed dramatically over time. Plus his reputation is seemingly impeccable, he is well connected and seems to understand how woo donors and raise money.
We're going back and forth between threads so I'll just stick in this one.
I don't see not taking the money as shortsighted I actually see it as a long term play. Even if you could manage it now could you manage the pols long term when the current guy leaves and beyond. These are the people who tried to make a power play to take over the BOG and take parts of the university. You think they can be kept at bay indefinitely the more you take from them? I don't. The more you take the more you become beholden. For academics I get it for athletics I'd rather not.
As to the funding, well it wouldn't all be private part of it is going to come from athletic revenue bonds just like it is at most schools and the B10 revenue will help with that part of it. At least half though would likely need to private.
Minnesota has an athletics village they are building that costs 160M or so. They said they had trouble raising funds for it. I was like wow I thought it was going well. What was their "trouble?" They wanted to raise about 80% of the funds privately and fund the rest through athletic revenue bonds instead they raised about 76.5M privately or a little less than 1/2 the cost. That's the kind of "trouble" I'd like to have lol. Anyways, they ok'd the extra borrowing. Point being this is the kind of money we need to raise privately and if this guy is the type of fundraiser that some here are saying then he should be able to do it or it's just more of the same. Maybe we don't have to raise 76.5M but we do have to raise figures in the 10s of millions otherwise he's not much better than any of his predecessors. This kind of stuff needs to get done on the back of private funds supplemented by athletic revenue bonds. A little state money like the parking garage fine but it can't be very large chunks of money over time.
So... there's a fairly stiff shot of "wrong" in this post.
Bob Barchi delivered the message this weekend. The voices behind the message were Chris Christie and Ray Lesniak.
The staffing decisions, as they stand right now, very much reflect a cooperative effort between those three people, plus Greg Brown.
Remember the announcement on Friday about the budget increases (50%) for various "diversity and inclusion" efforts at RUNB?
Not a coincidence. The staffing decisions had already been made. Barchi very deftly handed the loudest voices with respect to athletic dissent a nice little payday in exchange for them not screaming when they found out that Rutgers Athletics was about to get a multi-million $ shot in the arm from Trenton.
The game of politics is complex and requires thinking in landscape, not portrait. Just because Christie hasn't been previously perceived as a staunch supporter of Rutgers or Rutgers athletics does not negate the fact that the political stars aligned in our favor with regard to the current situation.
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