Surprised Wilson didn't use it to try to ice Fredericko whose unit was already well below Zero (2 missed Xtra points / 2 failed 2 point conversions).
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Clock management at the end
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Surprised Wilson didn't use it to try to ice Fredericko whose unit was already well below Zero (2 missed Xtra points / 2 failed 2 point conversions).
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I would go so far as to say that the field goal was preferable to a td..... Let the kicking unit atone for their sins, show them you trust them and it may pay dividends in the future
I think it was a perfect ending
That's like saying that instead of studying for a multiple choice exam, you are going to randomly fill in answers. Then if you get an A, you are going to assume that you did the smart thing since you got the result you wanted, and do that on your next exam as well instead of studying, and get an F.
Not to mention the odds of a 3rd blocked kick are ridiculously low. that was my thought. from that close in, I was confident that we would finally boot one through.
It wasn't blocked. What if we went for the td and fumble? What if we score and leave time on the clock? Anyone can play what if. I suggest you play reality.
Not it's arguing against the notion that if we played things differently earlier in the drive they would have then played out exactly as you then want them to go.
You realize that the probabilites are independent, right? (Note: I am not arguing the FG try, but you seem to be implying that the odds of a blocked kick is low because it'd be the third one)
Once you are in field goal range and the kick would win the game you do not pass the ball or do any other risky play.
Once you are in field goal range and the kick would win the game you do not pass the ball or do any other risky play.
The probability was high because our kick coverage was poor on those extra pts. Plus Federico was kicking low.
So you don't agree that we shouldn't have let Indiana decide if they wanted to get the ball back and try to win the game? Got it.
I thought spiking the ball was the wrong move at the time. I always think you should go for the TD. But it's possible they could tie if they get the ball back. So which scenario gives you the better chance to win? Probably the field goal.
Or the kicking unit is more in tune to protecting the kicker and Federico is more in tune to getting lift of the ball.
You need to better define your hypothetical. I know what really happened. I'm not sure how you think it could have gone.
I mean if this is really how you want to continue on. I personally think it's ridiculous.
It was third down, we run the ball, and then there are 18 seconds left. It is now fourth down.
Here is my hypothetical.
Indiana calls a timeout at this point.
Then we kick the FG.
Whether it is good or not, Indiana has a chance (yes, a VERY slim chance, but still a chance) to score.
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In a game when we have given up a huge amount of points, the best defense is to keep the other team's offense off the field. There is no good reason that I can think of, that my hypothetical situation did not actually play out that way. All I am trying to say here is, we should do a better job of controlling our own destiny. Assume the other team knows when to use their timeouts, and ensure that they cannot get the ball back.
Turns out, that's a winning strategy.
Why are people still embarrassing themselves like this? LoL
My scenario is based on what would have played out if Indiana used their TO like they should have. Avoiding this possibility would have meant either not spiking the ball or not using our second TO.
You have to spell this out more clearly. When should Indy have used their TO?
It was 4th down. ~18 seconds on the clock. They had a TO left. (Not being hypothetical, this is all true).
They should have used the TO then, forcing us to kick with that much time left.
Who gives a sh!!
We just witnessed an amazing comeback and this is the crap you are whining about
My god...
The last 4 downs were not played "perfectly" despite the result.
Indiana's clock management was atrocious.
They called their 2nd TO at :47.
We completed a pass for a 1st down.
Then spiked the ball on 1st down.
Martin ran for 4 yards on 2nd down.
IU lets the clock run until we call timeout at :18
Martin runs for 1 yard.
We call TO at :05.
IU ends game with a TO in their pocket.
First, we look good because IU effed up the management.
Second, we were in perfect position to line up on 3rd down with a TO in our pocket to guard against a bad snap and didn't take it.
You guys are looking at the last play of the game and the result and saying it was played perfectly.
Silly.
Indiana's clock management was atrocious.
They called their 2nd TO at :47.
We completed a pass for a 1st down.
Then spiked the ball on 1st down.
Martin ran for 4 yards on 2nd down.
IU lets the clock run until we call timeout at :18
Martin runs for 1 yard.
We call TO at :05.
IU ends game with a TO in their pocket.
First, we look good because IU effed up the management.
Second, we were in perfect position to line up on 3rd down with a TO in our pocket to guard against a bad snap and didn't take it.
You guys are looking at the last play of the game and the result and saying it was played perfectly.
Silly.
Stop being a goddamned moron. That last drive was close to perfection the whole way, including the clock management (except for not kicking the FG on 3rd down, as I noted earlier).
For the record, I'm not "bitching" or "complaining" about anything.
I'm commenting on the "perfection."
If you think the last 1:45 was perfection, that is your right. I mean, you're wrong, but it's your right...
I'm commenting on the "perfection."
If you think the last 1:45 was perfection, that is your right. I mean, you're wrong, but it's your right...
We can't be held responsible for what their coach does. As it happened in real time, a Flood played it perfectly.
IU shoudl be trying to accomplish 2 things.
Primarily, they MUST make us kick the ball with enough time left to ensure we have to kick off.
Secondly, IF they can ensure that we can't line up to kick on 3rd down with a TO in our pocket, that is gravy.
Surely, they could have ensured number 1...evidenced by, you know, the game ended with them having a TO in their pocket.
I'll say see the above. And I'll consider you're reply. But again, when a 4 minute drive ends with a game winning fg? I'll call it perfection with little issue.
Placate my ever growing drunkeness and play it out, where IU uses a TO changes the end game.
How did Flood play it perfectly when at :18 the clock was running and the other coach had a TO in his pocket?
If being the beneficiary of coaching against a bigger doofus than you are is "perfect" than I guess so...
How about this one...
Robert Martin runs for 1 yard at :18 on 3rd down and IU lets the clock the run down to :05 before RU calls TO?
Their coach blew it, not Flood. He kicked the game winner as the last play.
He played it perfect. The other coach didn't, but how is that Floods fault? What would you have done differently if you were Flood?
He played it perfect. The other coach didn't, but how is that Floods fault? What would you have done differently if you were Flood?
