By then RU will be making close to $100M a year so hopefully the money will keep RU from making said boneheaded move once Schiano 2.0 fails in a couple years.
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The team is showing progress and like most, I predicted 3-4 wins this year. Look - that’s where we are. The issue is that we started 3-0 and the expectation was that we would suddenly be going to the Orange Bowl. Realistically, I think that we should reasonably expect six wins next year, then a winning season after that.
The really frustrating game for me this year was Nebraska at home. We had that game in our hands, and I’m convinced that is we just ran the ball in the second half (like fans were calling for) we would have won that game. That game, unfortunately, was an example of bad coaching.
Perspective and patience are important. That’s tough to hear, but that’s the reality of where we are right now with the talent that we currently have and the schedule on our plate. I do believe that Schiano will get it done.
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The really frustrating game for me this year was Nebraska at home. We had that game in our hands, and I’m convinced that is we just ran the ball in the second half (like fans were calling for) we would have won that game. That game, unfortunately, was an example of bad coaching.
Perspective and patience are important. That’s tough to hear, but that’s the reality of where we are right now with the talent that we currently have and the schedule on our plate. I do believe that Schiano will get it done.
Scarlet Jerry
I’m not giving up on him. This is what I expected.
He’s never going to beat the big 3. Just isn’t going to happen. We aren’t even close.
Thats not true. There were 2 close games against Michigan.
OP most fans aren't happy about where we are right now but did Greg like bang your sister or something? You really hate him and spend a lot of energy on it.
I am usually first to challenge @Caliknight , but most of what he has said is correct with respect to today.
And two losses. They look at us like a scrimmage.
I don’t hate him lol. That’s weird fan boi shit.
If you think what you saw was good coaching today then good for you. If questioning his decisions triggers you, well you’ll have to deal with that.
Mich is 22-1 the last 2 years. That’s the unreal expectation from some fans. To me, I care about the game like yesterday. I’m a big GS fan and yesterday was not his best.
GS was not a good game day coach when he was here the first time and he has not improved. The question has always been can his recruiting and Monday to Friday coaching get RU over the hump to respectability. There has been some improvement from the Ash disaster but not enough to say this is working for sure. GS absolutely needs an offensive spark to turn things around.
Ok. Thanks.
Im just tired that any coach can step into almost any pile of sewage elsewhere and can clean it up in less time (Kansas), or seen how other programs have done a hell of a lot more with less all these years (Cincy). But yet only ONE MAN can coach in NJ because ONLY HE understands NJ. And time and time again, he is an average coach at best.
If it’s any balm to some of the posters here, our guy did make it on to the official Hot Seat site …
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He thinks supporting GS hurts lacrosse. It's total nonsensical axe grinding and lots of time to spare.
The problem is that our sewage is deeper than most places because of the division we're in and how we had two coaches who burned the program down who were somehow kept on each after it was readily apparent things were melting down.
This is a lift like GS has first go around. That was basically lifting an AA program into FBS. This is lifting a program from the worst in P5 to competitive in its best division.
I don't know about everyone else but I can sure remember getting blown out in nearly every game in 2018 and 19 including by Kansas and Buffalo...
Every game this year aside from Ohio State was an actual competitive game. We have to be patient as much as it sucks and isn't human nature.
A lot of the people whining don't remember 78-0. Granted I don't want to remember it either. And they discard actually being up against Michigan last week, and then don't understand how the lead was lost because we have a 19 year old QB when many other teams these days have 24 year old QBs...somehow that will be on Greg too I bet.
Yesterday was definitely not his best but one can easily see where a more experienced GW with some portal OL and WR wins against MSU, Neb, Iowa etc...
We don’t play Wagner next year. We play Ohio. Still a must win.
Sorry, got that from future schedules site-will fix, but that may not be an easy win.
Fbschedules.com says Wagner, TKR future schedules says Ohio. I think it is Ohio. We played Wagner this year because that game was scheduled so late that they were virtually the only team left with an opening. But I saw Ohio on our schedule for next year quite a long time ago on the fbs.com site. Now it is changed. Don’t know why and now I am confused. That, however, is a normal condition for me.
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After speaking with a few sources, Ohio initiated the talks with Rutgers to cancel or move next year's game against one another. They have a different opponent that they will announce whenever they see fit, but it was the Bobcats who backed out of the deal for next year's game and Rutgers agreed...
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Yet we have fans who think it's MADNESS, SHEER MADNESS, for some of us to say Schiano isn't doing well and to be unhappy with his performance. Massey Composite has us at 93, that's what all the rankings think of us, but HOW DARE anyone criticize the coach! Haters!If it’s any balm to some of the posters here, our guy did make it on to the official Hot Seat site …
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Agree. A few years ago Tennessee fans ran Schiano out of town and RU fans screamed for "SCHIANO". Tennessee, in the toughest conference in college ball (BCS is getting it right this year) is 9-1, averaging 47.4 PPG, was ranked 1ST for week and RU will be in perpetual rebuild mode. I think the Knoxville fans got it right.
I’ve seen that site before and it’s an inaccurate and unrealistic list. Tucker has a long 10yr deal, same for Fisher, Venables was just hired etc..they just throw any names out there.If it’s any balm to some of the posters here, our guy did make it on to the official Hot Seat site …
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I’ve said this before. Next year is a crucial year assuming not .500 regular season this year. I only found 3 HCs who made it to a 5th year that had 4 straight regular seasons below .500…Cutcilffe, Wilson and Frost. No coach has had 5 straight below .500 regular seasons and made it to a 6th. Cutcliffe and Wilson won 6 in year 5 and Frost was fired in the middle of year 5.
So I see it like this for next year. 0-3 wins he’d be let go, 4-5 he has an okay chance for a 5th year but no guarantee. 6 obviously he would be back. If he survived to a 5th season without being .500 in season 4, then it has to be 6 wins in year 5, no ifs ands or buts about it or he’s out.
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We have great “fans”. The guy they hired instead was fired already. So, yeah. You showed us.
No they didn't lol they hired Jeremy Pruitt and he went 16-19 and got fired in 3 years. What are you talking about?
Well what I take from that is you keep trying and you shouldn’t lose hope. I don’t. I see some say if GS doesn’t get it done they don’t think anyone else could or they lose hope. That’s nonsense imo. If he doesn’t work we try again and again. You find the right guy and they are out there and you can be respectable or better.
We just hired a guy in MBB who essentially took us to 3 NCAA tourneys after not having been to one since I was in middle school lol. Good coaches are out there to be hired.
The program could use a signature win in the worst way.
Or a recruit who becomes our Doug Flutie.
I gave you the timetable above and I’ve mentioned it before in other posts. Year 4 is a crucial one.
Pikiell made the tourney in year 4. It was cancelled but I count it and that’s why I said 3 NCAA tourneys.
My bad. I didn’t see your post before. Glad we both agree that it’s too early to judge GS.
I wouldn't send a Knight out on a dog like this. (homage to Ralph Kramden). Here is why:
Rutgers replaces Ohio with Wagner on 2023 football schedule
The Rutgers Scarlet Knights have replaced the Ohio Bobcats with the Wagner Seahawks on their 2023 football schedule.
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Do you suppose Schiano would've gone even 16-19 with that same team and same schedule?
It’s no secret that I thought, and still do, that Schiano is a terrible hire. But you can’t compare football turnarounds to basketball because in hoops 1-2 top recruits can make a huge difference and maturity/physicality matters less.
So, not a good comparison. But yes, no shortage of better candidates who know how to optimize offense and win games.
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No idea but he would have way more talent on that roster than what Ash left him here at Rutgers. He also probably doesn't get in trouble for recruiting violations either like Pruitt did.
I think probably would have had a better record than Pruitt yeah with the annual top 15 recruiting classes and a much larger assistant budget.
Yea it’s always said yea it only takes 1-2 players etc and it can turnaround yet it took about 30 years to do it. Sounds nice in theory to say it’s easier but I don’t think it was easier for MBB…considering our history and lack of even somewhat moderate facilities and the rest until recently.
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Why is Schiano playing not to lose a surprise to all of you? It's what he did the first time he was here. How many times did our punt returner signal fair catch and run off the field before the punter even kicked the ball. He didn't want to run the risk of mishandling the punt and turning the ball over.
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