Covid-19 has hit the Illinois football team.

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So we agree. Nice to see. Economy can open. Weak and frail can shelter in place. Family, friends and neighbors can look out for them. Healthy people can work. Young people can go to school.
Of course it can be done. It’s all common sense stuff.
 

LETSGORU91

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Way too logical.

Must hysterically repeat the same complaints and flailing accusations, over and over again ...like a real man😒
Does that happen here???

What's missing in these pictures?





The crystal ball telling them they wont be playing this week?

I would have replied sooner but my WiFi is not working in my basement. I had to cpme upstairs to use the Loo and saw this thread. I’ll be back up to check it in 5 hours. Mask is on along with face shield.
That's a good one!!! Tell mom to get a satellite router system.
 

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So we agree. Nice to see. Economy can open. Weak and frail can shelter in place. Family, friends and neighbors can look out for them. Healthy people can work. Young people can go to school.
Mentioned in another thread, but that's basically the strategy they used around me. And last week, the state's lead epidemiologist literally said she didn't know what to do anymore, after a record day of 1500 cases. Today was 2200 cases, triple the original highs from summer. Got a text Today from a state emergency comm system that I didn't even know existed (outside of amber alerts) saying that counties all over are at record numbers and hospitals at risk of being overrun. Which brings us right back to why we locked down to begin with.

The "open it all" up strategy didn't work so great. It'd work less great somewhere like NJ.

It's a process.
 

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Mentioned in another thread, but that's basically the strategy they used around me. And last week, the state's lead epidemiologist literally said she didn't know what to do anymore, after a record day of 1500 cases. Today was 2200 cases, triple the original highs from summer. Got a text Today from a state emergency comm system that I didn't even know existed (outside of amber alerts) saying that counties all over are at record numbers and hospitals at risk of being overrun. Which brings us right back to why we locked down to begin with.

The "open it all" up strategy didn't work so great. It'd work less great somewhere like NJ.

It's a process.
There is cause for concern, but is there cause for alarm and lockdown? Do we have data on deaths and hospitalizations? I'm not arguing, just wondering what the goal is to be achieved. Is a higher transmission rate where there are not many people seriously ill, hospitalized or killed something to shut down the economy over? That decision is above my pay grade, but there is a fair argument that the answer is to keep things open with reasonable precautions. Gov. Murphy issued a new EO yesterday putting more stringent requirements on places of employment. That is a reasonable strategy, IMO. One of the problems (not only in NJ) is larger indoor gatherings.
 
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with all these increases valley hospital in ridgewood still has only 22 hospitalized for covid---2 of my neighbors got the virus and the meds given them got them home in 3-4 days--things are quite different from april and march
 

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How hard is it to isolate in Urbana Illinois which is the most ironically named city ever. Does Covid travel by corn now
 
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That's your inference. Seems very possible they infected the Ilinois team.
because people just don't get CoVid unless someone tackles them.

let's see what the net-net is of these young people who tested positive... other than not playing games.. will there be any ill-effects?

Given that it is respiratory and aggressive.. well.. I dunno.. would exhaust themselves and breathe as deeply as football players do... is that good or bad for CoVid symptoms.. or for asymptomatics?
 
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You really have to wonder if the rumor that Wisky knew about their positive players but played anyway is true. Most of these guys are out for contact tracing.. But still...

 
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There is cause for concern, but is there cause for alarm and lockdown? Do we have data on deaths and hospitalizations? I'm not arguing, just wondering what the goal is to be achieved. Is a higher transmission rate where there are not many people seriously ill, hospitalized or killed something to shut down the economy over? That decision is above my pay grade, but there is a fair argument that the answer is to keep things open with reasonable precautions. Gov. Murphy issued a new EO yesterday putting more stringent requirements on places of employment. That is a reasonable strategy, IMO. One of the problems (not only in NJ) is larger indoor gatherings.
The issue now is the number of hospitalizations is way up in places like Wisconsin and Utah. Wisconsin is apparently running out of space even with the field hospitals they set up. The percentage of deaths is not as high likely because there have been advancemengs in treatment since the spring/summer. However, you need the hospital space to treat those patients. Prudent to continue to have people telecommute where possible at the very least. I do hope RU is able to play their full schedule.
 
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The issue now is the number of hospitalizations is way up in places like Wisconsin and Utah. Wisconsin is apparently running out of space even with the field hospitals they set up. The percentage of deaths is not as high likely because there have been advancemengs in treatment since the spring/summer. However, you need the hospital space to treat those patients. Prudent to continue to have people telecommute where possible at the very least. I do hope RU is able to play their full schedule.
Links please
 
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let's see what the net-net is of these young people who tested positive... other than not playing games.. will there be any ill-effects?
The net-net shouldn't be bad considering their age. Ideally, catch it early, and limit the spread. Something Wisconsin possibly failed to do if the rumors are true that they knew but let their players compete anyway. That is idiotic if the rumor is accurate. Crap like that will promote bigger cluster breakouts of the virus and potentially stress the healthcare systems. That is the negative, possible net-net. See the post below from @RC1991 .

The issue now is the number of hospitalizations is way up in places like Wisconsin and Utah. Wisconsin is apparently running out of space even with the field hospitals they set up. The percentage of deaths is not as high likely because there have been advancemengs in treatment since the spring/summer. However, you need the hospital space to treat those patients. Prudent to continue to have people telecommute where possible at the very least. I do hope RU is able to play their full schedule.
 

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There is cause for concern, but is there cause for alarm and lockdown? Do we have data on deaths and hospitalizations? I'm not arguing, just wondering what the goal is to be achieved. Is a higher transmission rate where there are not many people seriously ill, hospitalized or killed something to shut down the economy over? That decision is above my pay grade, but there is a fair argument that the answer is to keep things open with reasonable precautions. Gov. Murphy issued a new EO yesterday putting more stringent requirements on places of employment. That is a reasonable strategy, IMO. One of the problems (not only in NJ) is larger indoor gatherings.
We wouldn't have to resort to lockdowns if people would do much better with distancing, masking and not congregating indoors, as some still do. With regard to data, here you go. The US hit a world pandemic record of 100,000 cases in a single day on Friday, which is not the kind of record we'd like to see. This after multiple new records over the past week or so, as the virus continues to spin out of control in many to most states. The same is true in much of Europe and as most around here know, we're seeing cases spiking again in NY/NJ (not as badly as elsewhere, but they're still rising). Many public health experts had been predicting we'd see this as many more people head indoors in the colder months and with schools and universities opening back up.

It's quite possible we're going to be seeing our average exceeding 100K cases per day, which would be 1.5 times the ~65K peak we saw back in July and 3X the 30-35K peak we saw in April, although that peak was likely more like 65-70K in the 2nd wave, since both waves had similar hospitalization peaks of ~60K hospitalized (we weren't testing nearly as much in wave 1, so the case numbers were artificially quite low).

Assuming hospitalizations trend similarly to wave 2, we should expect about 1.5X as many hospitalizations as seen in wave 2, i.e., perhaps up to 90K and, sadly, we should then expect probably 1.5X the death rate of wave 2, which was around 1100/day; 1.5X would mean close to 1700/day, which is almost as much as the first wave (which was around 2200/day). Remember, hospitalizations lag cases by a week or two and deaths lag cases by 2-4 weeks, typically.

The only small silver lining in any of this is, as I've described numerous times back in July/August, is that deaths per hospitalization in wave 2 were about half of what we saw in wave 1, due to improvements in medical procedures and pharmaceutical treatments (and not having hospitals overwhelmed). Hopefully, we can maintain this lower death rate per hospitalization and maybe even improve it further, as some are suggesting, as per the linked NY Times article on the decline in death rates.

https://www.nytimes.com/.../new-york-city-coronavirus...

Unfortunately, I just don't see the drive for a major additional death rate reduction until at least the end of the year, when hopefully we'll have enough of the antibody cocktails to make a major difference in outcomes - assuming they prove to be as effective as the early data in mild/moderately ill patients is suggesting (not 100% a given, but possible). The other angle is that once we start rolling out vaccines, less people will get infected, which will obviously lower hospitalization and death rates, too. That will take a few months, probably, to make a difference. So it looks like we may have a hellish November through January (at least) to make it through.

 

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Agreed. Protect the elderly and those who are seriously compromised. Everyone else wants and is getting on with their life.
Ok I’ll say it ... for 10 months we have been handed false information not only from the political hacks of both major groups but by media news outlets ... the World Health Organizations and Medical folks ( including Doctors ) are unreliable... last but certainly not least... the World’s Pharmaceutical Companies... There are more people out today shopping , eating and being with family than I saw during the summer... people are frustrated and realize it ain’t ending soon no matter what drivel is fed to us.
 
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Cases arent the end all be all.

Do you want to be UK or Spain now

Lets face it...virus is going to virus...no matter how many masks you wear...which by the way everyone is basically doing in public. There is false notion that people arent wearing masks to create a narrative that its the reason why cases are exploding

Cases are exploding and the science has no idea how to stop it...however most are asymptomatic but fear porn fear porn
 
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