Didn't see this one coming...
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Interesting. But not to me. I don't really care what he has to say.
One of my proudest moments was when I yelled jersey hates you, among other things how I felt about his time here and his current job, as he walked out after we beat SHU pikes first time and he flipped me off
Not sure I really am interested in hearing Freddie. I'm glad that we moved on, albeit luckily so after he melted down at the baseball game.
Freddie is a good dude who loves Rutgers, just wasn’t a HC. He wasn’t ready to manage the team.
FIG took advantage of him big time
FIG took advantage of him big time
Who's next? Kevin Bannon or Mike Rice? Bonus points for Craig Littlepage.
Got it. Thanks.
How did they take advantage?
I heard FHJ was a terrible leader, failed to show at team or coaches social events, couldn't run or control a staff meeting, etc.
As awful as things were, I find it interesting to hear what the conversation would be about. I doubt it will touch on the issues here at RU, but likely where the program is today.
It is humbling and somewhat difficult for past coaches to return to the place where they worked and see things drastically better now than a decade ago.
It is humbling and somewhat difficult for past coaches to return to the place where they worked and see things drastically better now than a decade ago.
Fred Hill Jr occupies one of the strangest and indellible spots EVER in the mind of me as a fan and alum.
Down 25-7 in Nov 2006, ray rice takes a pitch to the left sideline and gallops into the endzone to cut the lead to 11 before halftime. And who is there to greet him in the endzone? F-ing Fred Hill Jr!
Everytime I watch that game and play and see that guy there its like a paradox in my mind. He did look very excited, I will give him that. Guy obviously loves Rutgers
Down 25-7 in Nov 2006, ray rice takes a pitch to the left sideline and gallops into the endzone to cut the lead to 11 before halftime. And who is there to greet him in the endzone? F-ing Fred Hill Jr!
Everytime I watch that game and play and see that guy there its like a paradox in my mind. He did look very excited, I will give him that. Guy obviously loves Rutgers
That is a spectacular story. I would trade that for when I got Devendorf to start coming at me when I was in the student section.
Yup. Very memorable for me as well. Also right before Fred's first game as a head coach here.
After 18 seasons as a basketball season ticket holder, Freddie Hill beat out of me any desire to renew my tickets. Now, I'd love to have my tickets back.
Don't understand why people wouldn't listen. He'll have a perspective that very very few interview subjects would. One as a head coach of our beloved Scarlet Knights. Hopefully he is reflective of his time and gives some interesting stories on the "woulda, coulda, shouldas" and will provide a unique take on the program. I mean it has to be one of the most interesting topics in college topics ... why RU athletics has been absolutely struggle city for the better part of 4 decades.
Results from 2006-2010 notwithstanding, FHJ grew up on campus because of his dad. I think you'll enjoy the interview... and this is coming from one of the biggest RU hoops fans out there.
Not going to get into details, but just a rotten group that needed a disciplinarian and FHJ definitely was not that.
It actually makes complete sense that we followed up FHJ with someone like Rice.
Of course, but their departures were under far more disturbing conditions, I think that's the reference.
The guy got his dream job and one shot at a head coaching job, failed and was fired. I don’t have any ill will for this guy and I hope he doesn’t have any ill will for Rutgers either, a decade after being shown the door by Pernetti.
Anyone that wants to talk Rutgers basketball, I’m all in.
Anyone that wants to talk Rutgers basketball, I’m all in.
@ColonelRutgers - no ill will, in fact, he's a fan and attending games at the RAC. You'll hear him discuss that.
My friends who were recruited by Freddie and their parents love him. I've always had nice conversations with him at social gatherings.
He's a good coach, just not a good Head Coach.
He's a good coach, just not a good Head Coach.
Rice would be a great interview -- and he's very good to listen too.
Problem is not sure if he would get into all the stuff that you would want to hear, namely the whole Murdoch saga (why did you hire him, what was his deal, how would you have handled things differently with him).
He has many times expressed regret for how his downfall at Rutgers happened. I know if he had been properly managed, we would have been ranked and in the tourney a few years earlier for sure. He should have never been hired given the way he was managed. He needed to be closely monitored and was not.
Problem is not sure if he would get into all the stuff that you would want to hear, namely the whole Murdoch saga (why did you hire him, what was his deal, how would you have handled things differently with him).
He has many times expressed regret for how his downfall at Rutgers happened. I know if he had been properly managed, we would have been ranked and in the tourney a few years earlier for sure. He should have never been hired given the way he was managed. He needed to be closely monitored and was not.
I was at the snow storm game vs Marquette where Douby absolutely dominated and coached by Fred Jr because Waters could not get back in time because he was being honored by Cleveland St. Everyone wanted Gary gone. We all got our wish. I was very wrong. No ill will but Fred Jr was not even close to being ready for prime time. How did the front office not see this?
That was still a Gary coached team. I said it at the time. I was ashamed of the firing and how Mulcahy did it.
He wasn’t fired because he failed . He should have been. Pernetti cluelessly thought hill was doing a good job and and was keeping him on. He was fired because he was an ass at a Rutgers baseball game .
Wanted Gary gone, sure . But that didn’t mean we wanted hill. I remember mccaffery being available.
Exact same situation for me. I just couldn't do it anymore with no hope.
You can't possibly believe that. You don't fire a coach just because he's an ass at a baseball game. Pernetti needed an excuse to get rid of him in the midst of a major budget crisis and the baseball thing was best he could come up with. Wasn't his hire in the first place so it wasn't like Hill was "his" guy like Rice was.
That is not correct. Pernetti wanted to fire Hill, the President wouldn’t let him. Tim used the baseball incident as cause to fire him.
“If I was 30 years older, 10 inches shorter and a f...” Ah, never mind. Talk about a quote from JR Inman that will never be topped.
