Drew Mehringer Postgame Press Conference - Indiana
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This guy is an idiot!! He is way too young and inexperienced to be an OC on the Major college level.
IF ASH does not replace him after this year, he may be on the hot seat himself.
This guy's play calling stinks.
IF ASH does not replace him after this year, he may be on the hot seat himself.
This guy's play calling stinks.
Mehringer should be learning to be a D1 Coordinator at Akron or Buffalo
Said the same in December and January and was crucified by this board. So easy to see that he was woefully inexperienced.
B1G should not be providing on the job training.
B1G should not be providing on the job training.
Ash is not replacing Mehringer. Ash has a rigid plan for both offense and defense. He long ago decided what he wanted to do when he became a head coach. This staff is hand picked to implement the offense and defense that he wants. He will continue to play this O and D, even though we don't have the personnel, until we do. Ash has stated over and over that he is not concerned about the end result (translation: wins and losses). He is only concerned about development, or "getting better."
If you need confirmation for this just look at the "developmental" players we have at almost every position group. The poster child for this being Kamaal Seymour. If you just resign yourself to 2 - 10 with 6 close games that we had a chance to win, the rest of the year will be a lot easier.
I look forward to the post season evaluation that we are much better at the end of the year than we were at the beginning. Goal achieved.
If you need confirmation for this just look at the "developmental" players we have at almost every position group. The poster child for this being Kamaal Seymour. If you just resign yourself to 2 - 10 with 6 close games that we had a chance to win, the rest of the year will be a lot easier.
I look forward to the post season evaluation that we are much better at the end of the year than we were at the beginning. Goal achieved.
He is not the only one on this staff that is getting OJT. Starts with the HC who for some reason decided he needed very little experience on the offensive side and seems to be running a good portion of the defensive package. 1 for 16 on 3rd downs. That was nothing but offensive slop from the second quarter on. Brutal to have to sit through it when Indiana was giving us opportunity after opportunity with turnovers and lousy FG attempts.
I was at the game, and tell me if I'm wrong but counted SIX 3 & OUTS by the offense in the second half.
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
Not very creative.... very predictable!
WAY OVER HIS HEAD!!
WAY OVER HIS HEAD!!
What's your prediction for '17? Improvement? Maybe 3-9? Shake 'em all up my friend. I am not strong on patience!
I am planning a post some time soon about the future, but basically, I expect SLOW but steady improvement, say 2-3 more wins each year.
Beaced, I know you are old and you seem impatient which I understand. Why not just route for another team?
One of the weaker performances by the offense that I've ever witnessed.
Lots of problem areas on the O-line, below average at wr, te, rb......and it still looks like qb.
Perhaps the St. Peter's kid can start next year.
Our D gave up 567 yards today!!! We can't punt or kickoff. We have guys drop balls put in their hands. We started inside our own 20 about 10 times today. Inside the 15 maybe 5? The their DL manhandled our OL in the 2bd half and their WR's abused our LB's and corners. Also their version of Grant crushed us, and we don't have Grant, unfortunately. Absolute killer today.
It's not just pkay calling people. they're are bad calls practically every drive in every NFL game ever played. It's not that. We also were playing an injured quarterback the entire game which limited things. same problem we dealt with once Gio got her in the middle of the second quarter against Minnesota. Did you not notice how the playcalling changed after that? Open your eyes.
It's not just pkay calling people. they're are bad calls practically every drive in every NFL game ever played. It's not that. We also were playing an injured quarterback the entire game which limited things. same problem we dealt with once Gio got her in the middle of the second quarter against Minnesota. Did you not notice how the playcalling changed after that? Open your eyes.
The glasses are a nice touch. Somehow makes Opie look like a grown up. But the same old Wah, Wah, Wah, Wah Charlie Brown. At least he's getting more confidence in his pressers. That's some type of improvement. Right.
yup...... and it's the one thing that both excites and scares the hell out of me........
I like the way Mehringer tells it like it is after a game. Execution was a huge problem for the offense today and Indiana clearly has more talent than us. We also do not have playmakers. That was pretty clear from my armchair.
Maybe some of our fans don't like hearing the truth ?
After going 1-16 on third down do our fans want the OC to blow smoke up our butts ? I know that I don't.
Maybe some of our fans don't like hearing the truth ?
After going 1-16 on third down do our fans want the OC to blow smoke up our butts ? I know that I don't.
The pro-Drew camp would perhaps be right if our HC was an offensive guy. In that framework, you can afford to give a young, talented mind some time, because you can mentor him.
Ash has never coached offense though.
He's entrusting a Big10 offense to a guy that's a few years removed from graduating college. A guy who's highest experience at the D1 level is a WR coach at Houston.
That's not just it. His only OC role was 1 year at JMU, a subdivision team, and it wasn't even a true OC role, because he was co-coordinator.
Like all OCs, he should have had at least a year in which he proved it at a lower level team.... sunbelt, american, mid america, MW, etc...
The talent argument only goes so far. Is Ash willing to risk another year with an inexperienced coordinator? Because if we go 2-10 again, it won't just be calling for Drew's job... it'll be for Ash too.
If there's an experienced OC out there, why wouldn't it be a good move? Drew could stay on his full salary as a upgraded position coach, and learn from a veteran OC. Groomed for the role when he's fully ready.
I don't blame Ash for trying the experiment, and I think Drew has a long and successful career ahead, but there are an awful lot of red flags here of inexperience here .... and it's especially worrisome when our head coach doesn't have a lot of experience on that side of the ball either.
Ash has never coached offense though.
He's entrusting a Big10 offense to a guy that's a few years removed from graduating college. A guy who's highest experience at the D1 level is a WR coach at Houston.
That's not just it. His only OC role was 1 year at JMU, a subdivision team, and it wasn't even a true OC role, because he was co-coordinator.
Like all OCs, he should have had at least a year in which he proved it at a lower level team.... sunbelt, american, mid america, MW, etc...
The talent argument only goes so far. Is Ash willing to risk another year with an inexperienced coordinator? Because if we go 2-10 again, it won't just be calling for Drew's job... it'll be for Ash too.
If there's an experienced OC out there, why wouldn't it be a good move? Drew could stay on his full salary as a upgraded position coach, and learn from a veteran OC. Groomed for the role when he's fully ready.
I don't blame Ash for trying the experiment, and I think Drew has a long and successful career ahead, but there are an awful lot of red flags here of inexperience here .... and it's especially worrisome when our head coach doesn't have a lot of experience on that side of the ball either.
I wanna be in a better position on third down than...the defense knows we have to throw, they know we have trouble protecting against four, they know we can't block the blitz at all.
So what down allows us to somewhat throw without fear of all out pressure, and what plays can we run to get us into 2nd and third down situations that aren't completely predictable to the defense and all of us in the stands
As Eric LeGrand said on radio, Indiana has adjusted to stop the stretch play, it ain't working stop running it.
2-5 wins is what you are getting for the next two years, for those who can't physically or mentally handle 2 more years of struggling they need to take a couple of years off and rejoin us for the 2019 season. To win consistently in the B1G you need to be 3 deep in most key positions, we are at least 3 recruiting classes away from where we need to be, and that is if we do well with all three classes. We will win the occasional B1G game over the next two years, we will not by going 0-6, but do not count on having a winning conference record. So everyone needs to relax and enjoy the positive plays and every win without worrying about winning records and bowl games and let the process play out.
Any yes, the OC is in over his head, but he is not going anywhere and he is going to be given the opportunity over the next two years to grow into the job and develop just as long the offense continues to show improvement, and that doesn't necessarily mean wins and losses.
This is so completely delusional it is scary.
Funny how he was a good OC minus one play during Minnesota game. Maybe it goes back to a QB who can run a bit?
Nothing funny about it, Minnesota didn't stop the run, Indiana did in the second half.
Different game, different variables...either way, predictably is a killer, even if you fail, fail being unpredictable
I just don't get the "if it aint broke don't fix it" line.
One, the other teams adjusts. They did.
Two, what part of it wasn't broke after half-time and all the 3 and outs?
And why did we throw another sideways pass in the red zone on 2nd and 10 and loss a yard again setting up third and long?
as (I think) 67 said above. These coaches do not care about anything except doing it right.IT being running their type of Offense and their plays regardless of the outcome apparently.
They better get some real quality players in here real fast and/or be able to coach the crap out of what we have with that positioning.
That's a whole new kind of stubborn. But if it works we'll be thrilled. If not just more of the same misery.
One, the other teams adjusts. They did.
Two, what part of it wasn't broke after half-time and all the 3 and outs?
And why did we throw another sideways pass in the red zone on 2nd and 10 and loss a yard again setting up third and long?
as (I think) 67 said above. These coaches do not care about anything except doing it right.IT being running their type of Offense and their plays regardless of the outcome apparently.
They better get some real quality players in here real fast and/or be able to coach the crap out of what we have with that positioning.
That's a whole new kind of stubborn. But if it works we'll be thrilled. If not just more of the same misery.
The only thing that is delusional is people like yourself. Probably not even a fan, but another troll pretending to be an RU fan.
What would you have like to change? Our QB couldn't run. That's eliminates 50% of the offense. Every read option at that point becomes a handoff. At least three times Harris had the chance to get a first down but wasn't strong enough to fall forward. Our O line was Swiss cheese on run plays and a turnstile on pass plays. We couldn't even run screens because our O line was so inept yesterday. An OC can only do so much when nobody is blocking. Add in crap field position and it's a recipe for disaster. Please name me three changes you would have made as OC
(first, I get what you are saying...yes to that) but here are three things:
1) don't go run-run-pass
2) REAL ol fashion screen pass (not bubble screen)
3) quick crossing pattern (what happened to that?)
none of which require the QB to run or the line to block well (since they really can't)
I haven't rewatched the game yet but we tried at least 4 traditional screens. Also threw a good number of crossing patterns. Few to Patton and Harris as well.
You can yell and talk down to people on this site all you want, if you think "2-5 wins over the next 2 years" is something that is going to play out in the coach's favor, then you may be the one that needs to "take a couple years off". Try paying attention to the way sports, college and professional, have worked for many many decades.
Bottom line on DM, he's not playing with a full deck.
But a few realities:
- Unless he's an unlikely prodigy, he'll be a better OC with more experience. Curious in a few years if asked if he would have done things differently/better this year.
- This offense is ridiculously ineffectual without a QB run threat.
- At some point losing affects recruiting. Since we are sticking to our guns system-wise, do we get the right horses to pull the wagon in time before the wheels fall off? We'll see.
But a few realities:
- Unless he's an unlikely prodigy, he'll be a better OC with more experience. Curious in a few years if asked if he would have done things differently/better this year.
- This offense is ridiculously ineffectual without a QB run threat.
- At some point losing affects recruiting. Since we are sticking to our guns system-wise, do we get the right horses to pull the wagon in time before the wheels fall off? We'll see.
Your statement clearly shows you have no clue. The field goal there was absolutely the right call. There were 15 seconds left and we needed a TD and FG to win. If we go for the TD there we use up too much clock even if we score. By taking FG we leave some time for an onside kick and a hail Mary pass. Chance of that happening is very slim but but still gives us a chance. If you are going to make snarky remarks at least know what you are talking about.
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Quick timing slants, curls and outs on first down with no halfback ride so Gio can have his eyes down field the whole time…ball out in 2 seconds before rush gets to him.
That timing play has to be there if we're working on it in practice daily, it's a 5 to 10 yard play Gio throws very well, he leads receivers well.
2nd down is no longer an obvious blitz down for defense, run, throw, screen, play action throw deep… third down is a managable distance
IMO…if we got to 2nd and 5 and ran pure inside zone, we would make 5 yards in two plays.
They could have gone either way there - either go for the TD, which would have taken more time off the clock (there was only 15 seconds left on the clock), or kick the FG. They chose to kick the FG, because they knew they were within Bonagura's FG range (limited FG range), and they didn't want to burn too much clock. Hopefully recover the ensuing onside kick and have enough time to run 2 plays and get it in the end zone. The problem here was Bonagura, who doesn't have the leg to connect from beyond 40 yards.
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