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Eddie Needs to Step Down...

RUfan1979

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Eddie filled a void in a time of turmoil. He is a nice guy and certainly is a student of the game.
Unfortunately, he is not the right fit to lead this program.
This is a program that has been burnt to the ground.
It needs to be rebuilt from scratch.
It will take an energetic young coach the likes of Danny Hurley.
Eddie knows basketball but he also knows that college is a lot different than the NBA.
At this level recruiting is a major part of success.
I see no evidence that he has the ability to bring in talent needed to elevate Rutgers basketball to a competitive level in the B1G conference.
Julie cannot fire him now.
As a Rutgers guy, for the long term good of the program, Eddie should voluntarily terminate his contract.
Rutgers must finally make the right hire.
Do whatever needs to be done and hire Danny Hurley.
Then, once your coach is in place, the facilities upgrade will be the next order of business.
 
If the idea is to bring in Danny Hurley, it's not going to happen.
 
I'm good with your thinking, but this will not happen.

Win 8 games next year, then maybe
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You are a moron. No one can win here at this moment unless you were getting a top 5 coach would bring a top flight class in overnight.

This is horrible to watch but it is what it is. Going to have to ride it out until serious money gets put into the program. Then wait a few more years.

There is no answer.
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No one can win here - what nonsense. Lots of guys would take a crack at it.

And there can be a middle ground between the final four and losing by 61
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Originally posted by ruman:
I'm good with your thinking, but this will not happen.

Win 8 games next year, then maybe
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I do not think it will happen either. Hurley has worked hard to turn around URI and is probably going to have an NCAA team the next two years at least. I think he will want to see that thru for at least a couple years. I f the job were to open I would do everything in my power to get Bobby Hurley he has done a nice job in a short time and I think he is a star on the rise. I think he will end up being even a better coach then Danny.
 
And no coach of any merit would even consider taking this job without assurances in writing that investment in the program must notably in facility upgrades will be made ASAP. And we know that we're looking at a minimum of 5 years before we can think of starting any significant building projects unless by some miracle some billionaire takes pity on us and hands us a blank check.
 
Basically we would have to hit on a mid-major coach.

Established guys don't want the job and I'll eat my words if I'm wrong.

Basically you have to trust the decision makers to make the right hire, and given our history ...

You're probably asking Masiello, Bobby Hurley, Cluess, Andy Toole, King Rice, Bill Carmody, Mike Lonergan, Joe Dooley, Mike Hopkins, Jeff Capel, Jeff Boals ... guys like that.

I think Greg Paulus will be a good coach one day.

Like WoodenNickel, Bobby Hurley would be #1 on my list.

The cold hard facts are Buffalo and Rutgers are not much different basketball programs. One is a solid up-and-coming MAC program, the other is a cellar-dweller in the B1G.

Maybe a salary bump, but if he bets on himself he can probably do better.


This post was edited on 2/19 10:44 PM by Aggs
 
Only a handful of top college coaches could have brought top talent to Rutgers after the Rice scandal. Rutgers basketball 2 years ago was like Rutgers football in 2000 after Shea.... actually, it was Much Much worse.

I remember guys questioning Schiano after the 80-7 loss to West Virginia in year 2

After being at rock bottom the new coach needs time....certainly more than 2 years.
 
rutgerstruefan,

I won't stump to your level by name calling.
But your thinking is assinine.
Serious money is not needed to be competitive.
It takes bringing in a few decent players to turn the corner.
Danny Hurley has the ties and I feel he is the right fit.
It's all a moot point anyway as long as we need to honor Eddie's contract.
 
Originally posted by RUfan1979:
rutgerstruefan,

I won't stump to your level by name calling.
But your thinking is assinine.
Serious money is not needed to be competitive.
It takes bringing in a few decent players to turn the corner.
Danny Hurley has the ties and I feel he is the right fit.
It's all a moot point anyway as long as we need to honor Eddie's contract.
Danny wasn't coming here in 2013, and he won't in 2015 or 2016.

He has a good thing at Rhode Island and Rutgers is not serious about basketball.
 
Iowa was good enough to beat North Carolina. And if we are talking coaches would be interested in George Washington coach or Dayton coach. But would they even come?
This post was edited on 2/19 10:50 PM by shields
 
Originally posted by rutgerstruefan:
You are a moron. No one can win here at this moment unless you were getting a top 5 coach would bring a top flight class in overnight.

This is horrible to watch but it is what it is. Going to have to ride it out until serious money gets put into the program. Then wait a few more years.

There is no answer.
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No, you might be the moron.

It's time to flush it.
they have packed it in. Why would these same kids be any better next year?
 
Originally posted by bac2therac:

my money is on Bobby Hurely but it will be next year when an agreement is made and Eddie steps aside
BAC....this is not credible. Really ?
 
Basically we would have to hit on a mid-major coach.

Established guys don't want the job and I'll eat my words if I'm wrong.

Basically you have to trust the decision makers to make the right hire, and given our history ...

You're probably asking Masiello, Bobby Hurley, Cluess, King Rice, Mike Lonergan, Joe Dooley, Mike Hopkins
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Yup. This is the kind of coaches we would look at. Add Todd K from Toledo, Bryce Drew, Book Richardson. I think these are the kind of coaches that are much better suited to deal with Rutgers in 2015 then our current one.
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my money is on Bobby Hurely but it will be next year when an agreement is made and Eddie steps aside
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I'd sign for that. Hope Bobby doesn't take a job this year.
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Originally posted by ruman:
Basically we would have to hit on a mid-major coach.

Established guys don't want the job and I'll eat my words if I'm wrong.

Basically you have to trust the decision makers to make the right hire, and given our history ...

You're probably asking Masiello, Bobby Hurley, Cluess, King Rice, Mike Lonergan, Joe Dooley, Mike Hopkins
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Yup. This is the kind of coaches we would look at. Add Todd K from Toledo, Bryce Drew, Book Richardson. I think these are the kind of coaches that are much better suited to deal with Rutgers in 2015 then our current one.
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When the time comes, I would look at any MAC coach. Chris Jans at Bowling Green is a former Gregg Marshall assistant and has 16-17 wins in his first season there. Saul Phillips is another interesting guy. He replaced Jim Christian who left for Boston College.

I wouldn't hire Book Richardson even though he's #1 assistant in the country, he's more of a recruiter. I don't think he's looking to run a program like Rutgers.

Bryce Drew is a great candidate. Just think it's unlikely. He might stick it out and get a better gig.
This post was edited on 2/19 11:05 PM by Aggs
 
Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:

Originally posted by bac2therac:

my money is on Bobby Hurely but it will be next year when an agreement is made and Eddie steps aside
BAC....this is not credible. Really ?
I could see this happening if another 10-11 wins season with just 1 or 2 conference wins, less season ticket holders and more subpar recruiting. It wouldn't be a firing as much as a mutual agreement, I am sure Eddie will be taken care of nicely
 
There is no reason Eddie needs to wait a year to step aside.
The ball needs to get rolling now.
All I hear from fellow season ticket holders is they are not wasting another dollar renewing tickets for next season.
Inject a little hope into this program now and that will change.
 
Originally posted by bac2therac:

Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:


Originally posted by bac2therac:

my money is on Bobby Hurely but it will be next year when an agreement is made and Eddie steps aside
BAC....this is not credible. Really ?
I could see this happening if another 10-11 wins season with just 1 or 2 conference wins, less season ticket holders and more subpar recruiting. It wouldn't be a firing as much as a mutual agreement, I am sure Eddie will be taken care of nicely
So, you think Hurly brings in a top class in year 1 and year 2 after the Mike Rice scandal?

Does he get a top 10 point guard like Sanders?

Would he have gotten Briscoe?
 
Originally posted by RUfan1979:
There is no reason Eddie needs to wait a year to step aside.
The ball needs to get rolling now.
All I hear from fellow season ticket holders is they are not wasting another dollar renewing tickets for next season.
Inject a little hope into this program now and that will change.
They will come back quickly after seeing a team with a penetrating point guard and shooters and a shot blocker.
 
Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:
Originally posted by bac2therac:

Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:


Originally posted by bac2therac:

my money is on Bobby Hurely but it will be next year when an agreement is made and Eddie steps aside
BAC....this is not credible. Really ?
I could see this happening if another 10-11 wins season with just 1 or 2 conference wins, less season ticket holders and more subpar recruiting. It wouldn't be a firing as much as a mutual agreement, I am sure Eddie will be taken care of nicely
So, you think Hurly brings in a top class in year 1 and year 2 after the Mike Rice scandal?

Does he get a top 10 point guard like Sanders?

Would he have gotten Briscoe?
He may not have brought in a top class but he can tell recruits that he was a point guard on a national championship team. I can also guarantee a better brand of basketball with guys diving on the floor for balls or he would be in their face at the next time out.
 
Forget about the past two years. You really think we are better next year? And you think our top 10 point guard plays?
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Originally posted by woodennickel1:



Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:


Originally posted by bac2therac:



Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:




Originally posted by bac2therac:

my money is on Bobby Hurely but it will be next year when an agreement is made and Eddie steps aside
BAC....this is not credible. Really ?
I could see this happening if another 10-11 wins season with just 1 or 2 conference wins, less season ticket holders and more subpar recruiting. It wouldn't be a firing as much as a mutual agreement, I am sure Eddie will be taken care of nicely
So, you think Hurly brings in a top class in year 1 and year 2 after the Mike Rice scandal?

Does he get a top 10 point guard like Sanders?

Would he have gotten Briscoe?
He may not have brought in a top class but he can tell recruits that he was a point guard on a national championship team. I can also guarantee a better brand of basketball with guys diving on the floor for balls or he would be in their face at the next time out.
Would he get bricklayers to shoot better? Would he turn Kone into a shooter? Would he turn Daniels into a shooter? How about Jack.... would he turn stone hands into soft hands? Williams will be a better shooter in time.... would he turn him from a 22% three point shooter into a 40% three point shooter if he were the coach?

Tell us about Bobby Hurley's credentials as a coach?

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This post was edited on 2/19 11:27 PM by RU-Choppin-Ohio
 
Choppin,

People said the same thing about Danny Hurley.

"What has he done?"

"You only like him because his last name is Hurley"

"He's from New Jersey, so what?"

Well he's won at St. Ben's. Took Wagner to the NCAAs. This year he's tied for first in the A-10 at 10-3.

Bobby is in his second year at his first head coaching job. He has 16 wins, led Kentucky and Wisconsin at halftime, and the team will be a contender next year.

Watch them play. They play hard, up-tempo, and the players are as good as some of ours.


His father is in the basketball hall of fame. Coaches son's are good coaches.
This post was edited on 2/19 11:33 PM by Aggs
 
Originally posted by Aggs:
Choppin,

People said the same thing about Danny Hurley.

Bobby is in his second year at his first head coaching job. He has 16 wins, led Kentucky and Wisconsin at halftime, and the team will be a contender next year.

Watch them play. They play hard, up-tempo, and the players are as good as some of ours.
Aggs.....can his team shoot?
 
I understand many are loyal to EJ, but I can't see how anybody can argue that he has done a good job here so far. I also can't see any reason to be optimistic that things change at all next year.
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Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:
Originally posted by Aggs:
Choppin,

People said the same thing about Danny Hurley.

Bobby is in his second year at his first head coaching job. He has 16 wins, led Kentucky and Wisconsin at halftime, and the team will be a contender next year.

Watch them play. They play hard, up-tempo, and the players are as good as some of ours.
Aggs.....can his team shoot?
MAC rankings
Third in PPG (74.7)
Fifth FG% (43.8%)

Tenth in 3P%



This post was edited on 2/19 11:38 PM by Aggs
 
Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:
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Originally posted by woodennickel1:



Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:


Originally posted by bac2therac:



Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:




Originally posted by bac2therac:

my money is on Bobby Hurely but it will be next year when an agreement is made and Eddie steps aside
BAC....this is not credible. Really ?
I could see this happening if another 10-11 wins season with just 1 or 2 conference wins, less season ticket holders and more subpar recruiting. It wouldn't be a firing as much as a mutual agreement, I am sure Eddie will be taken care of nicely
So, you think Hurly brings in a top class in year 1 and year 2 after the Mike Rice scandal?

Does he get a top 10 point guard like Sanders?

Would he have gotten Briscoe?
He may not have brought in a top class but he can tell recruits that he was a point guard on a national championship team. I can also guarantee a better brand of basketball with guys diving on the floor for balls or he would be in their face at the next time out.
Would he get bricklayers to shoot better? Would he turn Kone into a shooter? Would he turn Daniels into a shooter? How about Jack.... would he turn stone hands into soft hands? Williams will be a better shooter in time.... would he turn him from a 22% three point shooter into a 40% three point shooter if he were the coach?

Tell us about Bobby Hurley's credentials as a coach?

..

This post was edited on 2/19 11:27 PM by RU-Choppin-Ohio
Hurley led Buffalo to their first ever outright MAC East Division title in 2013-14 his first year as a head coach. Hurley was named a finalist for the Joe B. Hall Award, which is given to the nation's top first year head coach.Plus he has tremendous bloodlines.

Now tell me Eddies credentials as a college head coach?
 
Originally posted by Aggs:


Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:

Originally posted by Aggs:
Choppin,

People said the same thing about Danny Hurley.

Bobby is in his second year at his first head coaching job. He has 16 wins, led Kentucky and Wisconsin at halftime, and the team will be a contender next year.

Watch them play. They play hard, up-tempo, and the players are as good as some of ours.
Aggs.....can his team shoot?
MAC rankings
Third in PPG (74.7)
Fifth FG% (43.8%)


This post was edited on 2/19 11:36 PM by Aggs
Okay...so a good shooting team plays better.

Our best shooter can't get his shots because the defense knows he is the only shooter and their defense is geared towards preventing him from getting shots.

Actually, Lewis' mid range shot may be 2nd best on the team. He knocks them down.
 
Btw. Why the original poster may have an idea that I woul support, this will not happen. Guys do not walk away from $4 million plus dollars. Maybe he would take a buyout, but that's north of $2 mil even if it was negotiated. We won't do that. And No one is that loyal to your school even if he's convinced he's not the right guy.
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This post was edited on 2/19 11:48 PM by ruman
 
Guys,

I think we're at the point where it's not whether we should consider Bobby Hurley. It's more likely a question of will he consider Rutgers.

Maybe I'm wrong. But it was true for Danny. And Howland. And Fran F.
 
Originally posted by woodennickel1:



Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:


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Originally posted by woodennickel1:





Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:




Originally posted by bac2therac:





Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:






Originally posted by bac2therac:

my money is on Bobby Hurely but it will be next year when an agreement is made and Eddie steps aside
BAC....this is not credible. Really ?
I could see this happening if another 10-11 wins season with just 1 or 2 conference wins, less season ticket holders and more subpar recruiting. It wouldn't be a firing as much as a mutual agreement, I am sure Eddie will be taken care of nicely
So, you think Hurly brings in a top class in year 1 and year 2 after the Mike Rice scandal?

Does he get a top 10 point guard like Sanders?

Would he have gotten Briscoe?
He may not have brought in a top class but he can tell recruits that he was a point guard on a national championship team. I can also guarantee a better brand of basketball with guys diving on the floor for balls or he would be in their face at the next time out.
Would he get bricklayers to shoot better? Would he turn Kone into a shooter? Would he turn Daniels into a shooter? How about Jack.... would he turn stone hands into soft hands? Williams will be a better shooter in time.... would he turn him from a 22% three point shooter into a 40% three point shooter if he were the coach?

Tell us about Bobby Hurley's credentials as a coach?

..



This post was edited on 2/19 11:27 PM by RU-Choppin-Ohio
Hurley led Buffalo to their first ever outright MAC East Division title in 2013-14 his first year as a head coach. Hurley was named a finalist for the Joe B. Hall Award, which is given to the nation's top first year head coach.Plus he has tremendous bloodlines.

Now tell me Eddies credentials as a college head coach?
Can he turn a team of horrible shooters into shooters? Stone hands to soft hands?

Let's not talk about effort.... because effort does not turn players into shooters.

If Rutgers could shoot the ball this year they would have 5 more wins this year.

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This post was edited on 2/19 11:48 PM by RU-Choppin-Ohio
 
Howland was never a candidate. We didn't ask nor could afford. He left UCLA with a program that was under scrutiny for academics/discipline issues.
 
Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:
Originally posted by woodennickel1:


Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:

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Originally posted by woodennickel1:




Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:



Originally posted by bac2therac:




Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:





Originally posted by bac2therac:

my money is on Bobby Hurely but it will be next year when an agreement is made and Eddie steps aside
BAC....this is not credible. Really ?
I could see this happening if another 10-11 wins season with just 1 or 2 conference wins, less season ticket holders and more subpar recruiting. It wouldn't be a firing as much as a mutual agreement, I am sure Eddie will be taken care of nicely
So, you think Hurly brings in a top class in year 1 and year 2 after the Mike Rice scandal?

Does he get a top 10 point guard like Sanders?

Would he have gotten Briscoe?
He may not have brought in a top class but he can tell recruits that he was a point guard on a national championship team. I can also guarantee a better brand of basketball with guys diving on the floor for balls or he would be in their face at the next time out.
Would he get bricklayers to shoot better? Would he turn Kone into a shooter? Would he turn Daniels into a shooter? How about Jack.... would he turn stone hands into soft hands? Williams will be a better shooter in time.... would he turn him from a 22% three point shooter into a 40% three point shooter if he were the coach?

Tell us about Bobby Hurley's credentials as a coach?

..


This post was edited on 2/19 11:27 PM by RU-Choppin-Ohio
Hurley led Buffalo to their first ever outright MAC East Division title in 2013-14 his first year as a head coach. Hurley was named a finalist for the Joe B. Hall Award, which is given to the nation's top first year head coach.Plus he has tremendous bloodlines.

Now tell me Eddies credentials as a college head coach?
Can he turn a team of horrible shooters into shooters? Stone hands to soft hands?

Let's not talk about effort.... because effort does not turn players into shooters.
Keep making excuses for Jordan and see where it gets you. There has been zero improvement in any area over two years.Miles Mack is a good shooter, better ball movement is needed to get easier shots.
 
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