For me, it’s Schiano or Bust

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  1. kyk1827

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    Over the past 2 years ive thrown around alot of names but after thinking long and hard about it, for me it’s Schiano or bust. Personally I don’t think theres a single better fit for RU than Greg Schiano. Here are the main reasons he’s our only logical option.

    - On the field: he’s proven he still has it as he led 2 of the best defenses in 2016 and 2017 and in 2016 he improved the ohio state D and made them more aggressive as he increase their turnovers forced by 31%. An aggressive D is critical for us as it can be a game changer and swing games in our favor and give us hopes of an upset at any time. Spare me with the BS about last year, it was one bad year, lets not discount him having 2 of the best D’s in america in 2016 and 2017.

    - On the recruiting trail: he’s proven he’s still got it. Won national recruiter of the year in 2018, just one year ago. Some guys have it, and Greg’s one of those guys.

    -Financially: he would re-engage a fanbase that has been beaten to shit. In year one we’d see in increase in season tix holders by a minimum 7,000 season tix holders and within 3 years I firmly believe he’d get us back over 30k. Going from 16k now to 30k would mean an extra $10 mill+ a year in revenue between tix, concessions, parking, seat donation. These are the numbers Sarge recently reported.

    - Coaching staff: Greg Schiano is arguably the single most respected football coach in the entire state. He is a superior to HS football coaches in the state and they listen when he speaks, ash is a subordinate as he listens when they speak. This will result in Greg having TONS of highly qualified candidates as they’ll recognize that hes here for good, he’s not leaving this time and assistants can lock on with him and have job security for 10+ Years as long as they perform because if they dont greg will can them as he believes in accountability. This will result in continuity like we’ve never seen before. Highly qualified candidates will trust Greg as he’s done it here before and this is home. It’s not some shot in the dark coach who they dont know who gets canned in 4 years. This is a guy they can come home and coach for and raise a family in one spot for a decade plus, something extremely rare to find as an assistant.

    He’s a man on a mission: There are people in life who step up when challenged and those who crumble. Make no mistake, Greg is coming home to take names and prove alot of people wrong. Tampa, Tennessee, some ohio state fans, everyone whos run his name through the mud he’s coming for throats and the way a guy like greg schiano does that is with results. There’s something veryyy dangerous about a man whos out to prove doubters wrong. Lets not forget he has some unfinished business here. His goal isnt 6-6, his goal is national championships and he wont be afraid to say it.

    Culture: Our football team right now is a bunch if wimps, theyve taken on the personality of their head coach, who has neutered them. When Greg comes in there will be kids who quit, there will be kids who transfer, this will be the dead weight, the kids who dont know what its like to play division 1 football. Greg will bring back accountability and discipline something the program is SEVERELY lacking at the moment.

    Championships: I firmly believe Greg Schiano will have us competing for big ten titles. Laugh all you want, if youve ever been in a room or at a camp with Greg and heard him speak, he’ll truly have you believing you could do ANYTHING. He just has that type of moxy about him. Its not gonna happen overnight but youll be shocked how quickly we start taking it to blue bloods and coming out swinging, how quickly we start competing on the field and recruiting trail with programs who have eaten our lunch for the past 7 years. We’ll see consistent top 30 recruiting classes. Things will be exciting, we’ll be juiced up for the first time in a long time. Sellouts will become the norm, people will want to go to games, an RU ticket will go back to being one of the hottest tickets in town.

    We need Greg, he needs us, Pat Hobbs make this happen
     
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    It really does make so much sense.
    I'm 100% for it if he's spending 800k+ (at least) on proven OC running 2017+ offense.
     
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    I'm in the camp of I wouldn't mind if he came back, but I wouldn't be upset if they looked elsewhere. One things for sure. Hes a helluva lot better than the clown we have now.
     
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    a little place called Schianoville..welcome home Greg
     
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    Greg is a man on a mission?

    Then why did he fail with the Pats in about a month?

    Has Greg shown any interest in returning to RU, or are we just throwing his name around because he is all we know?
     
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    He wants back in, he wants to be here. He wants to come home. Have heard this from numerous trustworthy people
     
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    We need a young offensive minded coach who will hire a strong DC. Schiano idea of offense won’t win over the top recruits.
     
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    Seriously. Can we have a real bleeping offense for once? If he insists on using pro set in the B1G, with lines 50+ lbs undersized, I say kick rocks.
     
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    Disagree.
     
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    Disagree about Schiano’s idea of offense?

    If he comes back, I certainly hope his idea of offense has changed.
    His best OC (“best RU OC ever”????) has crashed and burned historically in his 2nd go around.
    2006/2007/2008 were a long time ago.
     
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    So this impassioned plea for Schiano supersedes your previous impassioned plea for Partridge?

    I’ll say this. I can get behind this one.
     
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    While i dont think its a hire that will get us to where we want to be. i think its the smartest business and financial decision with immediate effect. you will see a boost in recruiting, a boost in attendance, a boost in advertising revenue etc.

    Its a no brainer on that front especially if you can fire Ash now and get him in mid season. Mcnulty probably wouldn't mind either.
     
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    Would be more than happy to welcome GS back.
     
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    Mcnulty has actually run some good shit, he just doesnt have a qb because of ash
     
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    We should all know soon.

    The wheels are now off.

    As soon as we suffer an embarrassing loss to Liberty, even Hobbs will know what he has to do. So the Ash problem will be gone.

    Then there is Barchi. Barchi is the road block to our success. He will keep us from making a good choice by holding up the money we need to get it right. We will play poor once again.

    Being a Rutgers football fan too painful for words.
     
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    Fire Barchi then, asap
     
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    If McN gets no blame now because he has no QB (due to the HC) - does he also get no credit for 2007/2008 because he had a roster of NFL caliber players (due to the HC)?
    Can't have it both ways.


    Shouldn't the "greatest OC in RU history" and "best coach on staff" be able to show even a minimal sign of actual QB development and improvement?

    What exactly is RU paying him for?
    Is the situation that McN gets to just cash checks and has no responsibility to actually produce points? Nice arrangement if you can get it.

    Maybe the QB coach should get the blame and not the OC?
     
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    Ash hire has been so bad that i like to tell myself that Hobbs is actually so smart that he hired Ash to crater everything so that when he brought schiano back we'd be content with 6-6 for the next 25 years.
     
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    Lets think about the qbs mcnulty has had to work with because of ash.

    2018- Art and Gio. Gio started one season in high school, art didnt even start in high school. HIGH SCHOOL.

    2019- Art and Carter. Art see above, some kids just suck. Carter hes coached for a month now, how can you develop a kid in a month?
     
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    Either start naming names or at least provide a credible source. While your hero gets all the props in the world for what he has done here before, he took us as far as he could. Your hero would be the “safe” move, not the best move.
     
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    Thats genuine. I was in school when schiano left and was very friendly with a bunch of dudes on the team. They genuinely loved schiano. Those guys would run through a brick wall for him. Even guys who it didnt work out for at RU all largely respect schiano
     
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    Some of you people really dont realize what he did here. Longest bowl win streak in america. Took us from doormat to top 10 team, top 25 recruiting class in the sinking big east. Smh
     
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    Safe is best now.
    The day GS is hired season tickets go from 15 grand to 30 grand.
    Give us the name of one of your best move coaches based fully in reality, and ask yourself if he could do that?
     
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    If Schiano stayed one more year, he likely wins the conference title in 2012 (can't completely fault Flood for the BS call in the Louisville game that likely gave the Cards the life that they needed to win). He could probably have us back to 6 wins in 2-3 years and be the type of recruiter that puts a team together every 5 or 6 years that finishes with a few more wins. Sign me up for that right now.
     
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    How many BE Champ rings did he win? How many times has he beat WVU? Going to the Pinstripe Bowl at 7-5 playing 5 bum OOC teams and winning 2-3 BE games isn't my definition of success. Plus how many times has he choked to trash like UConn?
     
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    Schiano is a below average head coach. His best role is as a assistant coach somewhere.

    Schiano at Rutgers:

    68-69 overall
    28-48 in Big East Conference
    During the last 4 seasons he was hanging around Piscataway RU's Big East Conference record was 13-15
    0-11
    vs. West Virginia
    The king of soft and easy OOC schedules.
    Played only 8 BCS opponents some seasons. Typically, he (RU) scheduled one OOC opponent of medium difficulty and four cupcakes.
    As a head coach in the B1G he possibly could not handle a B1G schedule plus a BCS OOC opponent every year.
    ACC raided the Big East Conference and took Miami, VT and BC. Schiano still never won a conference championship or went to a BCS Bowl Game in 11 years (UConn did).
    I read that of Schiano's OOC wins at RU 30 were against non-BCS teams and none of his OOC wins came against a team ranked in the Top 25.

    Schiano at Tampa Bay:

    Failure, fired.

    Rutgers needs better than Schiano.
     
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    Lol
    I’ll take NFL talent all over the field and 50 thousand in the stands every game all day
     
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    I wouldn't be upset with bringing Schiano back. I also wouldn't mind the guy from Buffalo. Haven't thought about too many others at this point. Just want to see Mr. Personality get sent back to the corn.
     
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    Just don't expect any wins over real teams, NYD bowls or rings.
     
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    Some of you really have short memories. Even in bad schiano years we were always good for a surprise game. He plays a boom or bust style and its exciting you never know what youre gonna get.

    He beat josh freeman, russel wilson, #3 louisville, #2 USF, Michigan State in 04 with a young roster, 7 straight wins to end 2008 after the team looked dead, longest bowl win streak in the nation. Hes gonna take us places
     
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    He would've lost to Russell Wilson if he didn't get hurt. Don't give me that. The guy lost too many games to bums like UConn and Temple and never beat WVU. He's Andy Reid in college football form. Decent coach that'll never get you a ring.
     
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    Is this serious?
    Do you understand where we are right now?
     
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    Really dumb comments by you
     
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    Plus, WVU was VERY good for a long time before they got dumb and joined the B12

    Yukon had a lot of good players and teams too, for those foolishly using those arguments.
     
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    Hey if you want to be 5-7 to 7-5 for eternity, that's cool. Just don't ever let me catch you bitching about it. If Schiano couldn't beat his daddy WVU, how the hell is he supposed to beat PSU or Wisconsin or Michigan?
     
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    Right now that’s 1000% improvement over this shit-show.
    And not one coach we could afford would double the season tickets in one day!
    Is that not important to you... interest in the program?
     
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