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Another kid who can flat out play. Nothin like lefty wings.
Watch yourself now.Another kid who can flat out play. Nothin like lefty wings.
If you can get a lefty that can play and is not awkward you have something to work with....lol
You forgot Wash. If committable, that is a BIG boy offer.According to this site, mid major offers, and RU.
Says he is 6'8" and weighs 155. needs to add 40 lbs.
True.
George Washington, Rhode Island, VCU, Iona, Washington. Quality programs have offered. Looks like Frankie's got a nice stroke - not supreme athleticism (based on the videos I watched). @Russ Wood any insights would be appreciated here!
We will see. Austin Carrol could shoot too. That's great but if you don't have the speed and athleticism to go with it you won't be much of a factor in big ten play.
There are no shortcuts. No secret formulas. We either recruit consistently in the top 150 or we will never win. That doesn't mean every single player has to be a top 150 recruit but certainly the majority need to be.
And by the way Seton Hall is the perfect example. They started recuiting in the top 150 consistently and bam tourney team despite Willard being just an ok coach.
I'm sorry which coach from RU recruited consistently top 150 players?
Um. That was rhetorical. Not one of them has.all of them
all of them
And is it coincidence that the best team we had had 6 top 150 players and Ricky Shield who I can't find his ranking but I would bet he was ranked high and/or had multiple P5 offers. And even that team was only an NIT team. The reason it was an NIT team was because we needed about 3 other top 150 recruits to make it an NCAA team. He was close. Real close. The Bailey class killed our chance.This.
Top 150 players we've gotten in Rivals Era:
Quincy Douby(4)
Marquis Webb
Anthony Farmer
JR Inman(4)
Jaron Griffin
Hamady N'Diaye(4)
Corey Chandler(4)
Mike Rosario(4)
Greg Echenique(4)
Dane Miller(4)
Eli Carter
Jerome Seagears(4)
Myles Mack
Greg Lewis
Kadeem Jack(4)
Dwayne Foreman
Corey Sanders(4)
We've averaged about 1 150 player per class. We were doing better until the Jordan era where we only got 2 Rivals 150 players.
And is it coincidence that the best team we had had 5 top 150 players. And even that team was only an NIT team.
Honestly I disagree with a lot of this post but don't feel like breaking it down starting with Douby. Bottom line I just showed how recruiting in the top 150 will make your team better. The more you do it the better you will be and you aren't making the tournament without doing it. Pike doesn't have to do it to say take us to a 500 record but he will have to do it before we have a winning record and he certainly has to do it before we go to the NCAAs.Douby was a unique player, so while a 150 type of kid, probably played at the right school and became the focal point of the offense to likely play to a Top 40 level nationally....I would stretch that to a Top 200 level vs 150, but that's just my own way of not necessarily seeing a drastic difference between player 151 and player 200 on a national recruiting ranking.
If you land 6 Top 150 kids over a 3 year span (or 2 a year/recruiting class), things typically should improve enough to sustain itself....the key is when you get to Year 4, can you duplicate it and get it to the point where you have 8 Top 150 caliber kids on your roster all across three or 4 recruiting classes.
The remaining 5 scholarship players then have to be at least serviceable or with a defined role on the roster, so if they are a starter, they do one or two things well like defend/rebound or pass...they don't all have to be starting caliber scoring threats.
I would not look at "top 150", I would just simplify it and ask yourself, can this prospect crack your current Top 8 or 9 man rotation each and every game?? If the answer is Yes, then you can recruit the prospect regardless of whether the player is an immediate starter....if you get to Year 4 of a regime and you find it harder to automatically plug in a player as a freshman into your Top 8-9 rotation, then you have the depth/quality seasoning to get the program moving forward.
So that makes him five inches taller and 30 pounds lighter than Oden. Surprised we could even see him in his highlights.When you look at him on film does it look like 6'8, 155 ?
Nice point. Not only does it highlight that many of those 150s were clustered on one team, but it also shows that 1 per recruiting class is not enough. RU is competing to get one of the top 45-50ish teams in the country to get into the NCAAs. If it's average haul is only 1 of the top 150 each year, or less, it ain't getting there, not even close. There's no margin for error on the recruits. They all have to be winners, which rarely happens. No matter the arguments that are pasted together to try to explain that RU isn't going to need top talent, it's going to need top talent.And is it coincidence that the best team we had had 6 top 150 players and Ricky Shield who I can't find his ranking but I would bet he was ranked high and/or had multiple P5 offers. And even that team was only an NIT team. The reason it was an NIT team was because we needed about 3 other top 150 recruits to make it an NCAA team. He was close. Real close. The Bailey class killed our chance.
The list doesn't include players like James Beatty, Mike Coburn, Gilvydas Biruta, Mike Poole, Adrian Hill, and Austin Johnson who were not in the Rivals Top 150, but were also better contributors than players on that 150 list.
You only see what you want to see willis, which is negativity, and that players outside the Top 150 are worthless.