Gameday at Temple Next Week?

[kboogie-nj]

again, he isn't better than Nova or Laviano so why should we have offered him? It's the LB that we really missed out on.

No one knows who is better or how anyone would have developed, two different systems and responsibilities. Thomas breaking out with over 800 yards & 12 rushing TDs has a lot to do with the lighter weight put on Walker to make plays. It is all moot anyway.

As for Rhule leaving, unless you're a personal friend who has had this conversation, him leaving is just self-speculation.

 

[vkj91]

LMAO. You keep on thinking that vk91. This isn't Temple University that didn't know how to get out of its own way in the 80s, 90s, and 00s.

To those RU fans who supported your program through its darkest days and know what I've gone through as a TU alum for the past 30 seasons, I thank you for your well wishes and support. It's a classy gesture that doesn't go unnoticed.

you don't think your coach is going to bolt for a "better" job? I get that it sucks to be on the bottom of the food chain and I'm not saying it's much different for us. Let's be honest, your coach would leave to come here just like he'd leave us to go to USC. Like it or not there is a pecking order and history shows that's how it plays out. your last two coaches left for "better" jobs....why is this guy different?

 

[vkj91]

No one knows who is better or how anyone would have developed, two different systems and responsibilities. Thomas breaking out with over 800 yards & 12 rushing TDs has a lot to do with the lighter weight put on Walker to make plays. It is all moot anyway.

As for Rhule leaving, unless you're a personal friend who has had this conversation, him leaving is just self-speculation.

sure it's speculation. Please name me the last young up and coming coach who said no to a P5 school to stay at a MAC or AAC school long term?

 

[kboogie-nj]

you don't think your coach is going to bolt for a "better" job? I get that it sucks to be on the bottom of the food chain and I'm not saying it's much different for us. Let's be honest, your coach would leave to come here just like he'd leave us to go to USC. Like it or not there is a pecking order and history shows that's how it plays out. your last two coaches left for "better" jobs....why is this guy different?

Can you show any quote, article, conversation anywhere that state Rhule has any interest in Rutgers? That sounds more like wishful thinking more so than 'truth'. USC - hell yeah. Penn State after Franklin - hell yeah, that's probably his dream job. But RU in its state after his resume build at Temple?

 

[vkj91]

Can you show any quote, article, conversation anywhere that state Rhule has any interest in Rutgers? That sounds more like wishful thinking more so than 'truth'.

of course not can you show me any quote, article, or conversation showing Addazzio had interest in BC? How about Golden and Miami? Schiano and Tampa? NO, because they obviously don't talk about those things until they are done. I'm not saying your coach has his eyes on RU but I can assure you he isn't telling his agent not to pick up the phone because his heart in in Philly. This isn't a know on your program its just reality. Coaching is a business and if and when P5 schools come calling he is going to listen.

 

[lighty]

If Rutgers wants to be a successful program, it shouldn't worry about a strong Temple in its backyard. The AAC is kind of like the MAC. Big Ten schools always have to deal with strong MAC schools in their backyard.

We shouldn't be worried about losing recruits to Temple. They will get some great recruits -- and I think they have a great team this year -- but honestly, we should be worried about losing recruits to Penn State and Maryland... and the rest of the teams in our conference.

 

[Owlfan_in_North Jersey]

Well, let's see. We pay MR 1.2 per season. We just signed him to an extension that bumps his pay up quite nicely which will bring it quite close to Tuberville's deal with Cincy. Still think we're the "same old Temple" vk???

Let's assume he talks to other schools, like Al Golden did, who left for "greener pastures". Problem is, while AG got a bigger payday, since he was only earning about 600k from us at the time, has it worked out for him??? Is he happier in Coral Gables??? Debatable don't you think? Don't for a second think MR hasn't noticed his problems and taken them into consideration.

You may want to log onto Philly.com sometime today. I've know this for awhile, but it's been publicly announced now of our attentions to build on campus. MR is very much behind this project becoming a reality. He is on the verge of building his own legacy and he's going to leave that to go somewhere and deal with a fanbase that's never happy???? For money when he's already rich??? Yeah, ok.

The one and only school that we stand a serious threat to lose him to will be PSU when they finally tire of James Franklin. He and his wife are both PSU grads, Rhule grew up in State College, his dad taught at PSU, he played for Paterno. That'll be what pulls him away from us. It certainly won't be about money.

 

[bethlehemfan]

Smoke and mirrors in terms of how they've won some games. Ecu blew the game, they survived a death struggle against umass and Cincy did everything they possibly could to lose their game. Hey I am giving them credit which is well deserved. We'll see how they do the rest of the way. ND and Memphis will be a challenge given their offenses. Hopefully for temple they can continue winning the turnover battle.

 

[vkj91]

Well, let's see. We pay MR 1.2 per season. We just signed him to an extension that bumps his pay up quite nicely which will bring it quite close to Tuberville's deal with Cincy. Still think we're the "same old Temple" vk???

Let's assume he talks to other schools, like Al Golden did, who left for "greener pastures". Problem is, while AG got a bigger payday, since he was only earning about 600k from us at the time, has it worked out for him??? Is he happier in Coral Gables??? Debatable don't you think? Don't for a second think MR hasn't noticed his problems and taken them into consideration.

You may want to log onto Philly.com sometime today. I've know this for awhile, but it's been publicly announced now of our attentions to build on campus. MR is very much behind this project becoming a reality. He is on the verge of building his own legacy and he's going to leave that to go somewhere and deal with a fanbase that's never happy???? For money when he's already rich??? Yeah, ok.

The one and only school that we stand a serious threat to lose him to will be PSU when they finally tire of James Franklin. He and his wife are both PSU grads, Rhule grew up in State College, his dad taught at PSU, he played for Paterno. That'll be what pulls him away from us. It certainly won't be about money.

I don't care what you pay him....1.2, 1.5, 2 million. Doesn't matter. YOu are obviously looking at this as a fan and not a business. Come back in Jan and we can discuss

 

[Abro1975]

Golden left for Miami, Addazio left for Boston College, and Ruhle can probably make an extra million a year by making a move soon. He's got a senior dominated team, this is his chance to cash in and move to a P5 team. Who could blame him. I think Diaco may do the same.

 

[Owlfan_in_North Jersey]

Be more than happy to. Enjoy the rest of your season.

 

[rutgersguy1]

People again are getting focused on short term results. I wouldn't be interested in Rhule yet anyway if I was an AD looking for a coach. He's had a nice year no doubt but the stronger side of the AAC this year is the other half with Memphis/Houston/Navy. ECU/Cincy aren't what they used to be this year and then UCF has fallen off a cliff. Kudos to Rhule for taking advantage but it's short term results. I watched bits of that game last night and they didn't look impressive to me. It was an ugly game.

Rhule could finish with double digit wins this year and I still wouldn't want him yet. It's one year results and the year's not over yet. I've said Fuente was my top guy (excluding Herman because of buyout) for this year's crop and I still wanted to see him repeat last year's results this year and ideally even beyond. But at least he has a strong record as OC dating back to TCU and has recreated it again now at Memphis. Rhule's track record as OC wasn't good and their offense this year isn't too good (ranked over 100 last time I looked) but their defense has played well.

The season isn't over yet but even with a good year his track record wouldn't be enough for me to take a risk on him. It's not as if Temple is cranking out world beater coaches either. Golden has done what Shannon before him did and Addazio has done an okay job at BC. Let Rhule do it for some time and then maybe I'd be interested but one year isn't enough. Give credit for taking advantage of the easier half of the conference but don't get carried away off short term results.

 

[Owlfan_in_North Jersey]

Senior dominated team huh? Swing and miss again.

We lose 5 starters on both sides of the ball. Backups are just as strong, not to mention many of the prospects that were redshirted this season.

Good luck tomorrow night.

 

[BuggsyRU]

Can you show any quote, article, conversation anywhere that state Rhule has any interest in Rutgers? That sounds more like wishful thinking more so than 'truth'. USC - hell yeah. Penn State after Franklin - hell yeah, that's probably his dream job. But RU in its state after his resume build at Temple?

For your own sake, dude, you need to realize that Rhule is as good as gone after this year. Its just the nature of the beast in his profession.

Maybe not for Rutgers, but he WILL be leaving.

Illinois, Virginia, Maryland can all offer him a job in a P5 conference, bigger and better fancies, bigger and better facilitiies, and more than double his salary and what he can spend on hiring staff.

It would happen to us too. Just enjoy the season for what it is....because it's all going to change in a couple months.

 

[imbazza]

This is why I LOVE you guys and your dogma.
Senior PJ Walker stats with one additional game
59% completion 1314 yds 9 TDs against AAC competition.
sophomore chris Laviano
69% completion 1388 yds 12 TD's against the B1G
We should have offered Walker and should bench Laviano. Would be comical if not so sad.

Yea NOW tell me how many PRO WRs does Temple have so Walker can throw to like Carroo???
For that matter drop Carroo's yards and TD catches and look at Laviano's #
Even just drop Carroo stats by 50% and they fall below Walker

 

[mdk01]

They'll get their biggest crowd of the season, actually many seasons, and it will be 70% ND fans. I also can't see concern that their top RB is a Jersey kid when RU's 4 deep is so solid. It's not like he's head and shoulders better than any of them.

Temple's had a nice year, a very nice year. They hit the lottery with some 2 stars 3-4 years ago who now ,as upperclassmen, are playing solid football. They've gotten some breaks, but to at least an extent you make your breaks. Rhule is probably gone after this year for greener (in more ways than one) pastures, but I'd like to see how he does without this senior class before he's anointed savior.

 

[mdk01]

Yea NOW tell me how many PRO WRs does Temple have so Walker can throw to like Carroo???
For that matter drop Carroo's yards and TD catches and look at Laviano's #
Even just drop Carroo stats by 50% and they fall below Walker

Robbie Anderson isn't as good as Carroo, but he's not chopped liver either.

 

[derleider]

Big picture it doesn't really matter. Their coach will be gone either this year or next and then they will be starting all over again.

Agreed. We arent in the Big East any more, and the AAC is not even Big East level relative to the Big Ten. If we struggle its not because Temple is getting players from us, but beause PSU and MD and Michigan are.

As for gameday - its one of the good things about being in a non-BCS conference. You beat one name team in an off year (PSU) and then roll through a weak schedule (here are the massey ratings for their post-PSU foes - 65, 111,121, 107, 122, 60) and you get alot of attention. Then you have a big name at home, OOC, and theres a chance. Weve kind of been screwed in that when we have put together a run like Temple has - like 2006 or 2012 - our schedule doesnt work out - we blew it in 2012 before we played a big enough name, and in 2006 our big game was on a Thursday.

I suspect ND will blow them out.

 

[yesrutgers01]

I don't worry about losing recruits to Temple. I do worry about Rhule if they continue this run and let's say he moves up to a P5 school- he would get instant street cred in this area and regardless of where he ends up- he will recruit here hard.

As for Temple itself...They nearly the same distance to me as UConn is...I don't like either team and neither do anything for me. Both can lose all their games for all I care.

 

[PhDKnight]

If we are worried about beating Temple for recruits we need to pack up our bags and shut the program down.

 

[mdk01]

Agreed.

I suspect ND will blow them out.

Win yes. Blowout no. That's a legit defense that ND won't roll up the points on.

 

[BuggsyRU]

Senior dominated team huh? Swing and miss again.

We lose 5 starters on both sides of the ball. Backups are just as strong, not to mention many of the prospects that were redshirted this season.

Good luck tomorrow night.

LOL, just goes to show how bad Temple's fanbase is, when I know your roster better than you do

You will be losing 5 of 11 starters on offense and 6 out of 11 on defense, ALL in their final year of eligibility....and you say that calling your team senior dominated is a "swing and a miss?"

11 out of 22 starters are seniors. Half your starting lineup will need to be replaced.

You realize you will have to replace 3 out of 5 Olinemen and your two starting wide receivers on offense, and you say that is a SWING AND A MISS?

FROM OWLSPORTS (the official website of Temple University Athletics)

OFFENSE STARTERS DEPARTING

RT Eric Lofton, RS Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
LG Shahbaz Ahmed, True Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
C Kyle Friend, True senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
WR Robbie Anderson, RS Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
WR John Christopher, RS Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR

DEFENSE STARTERS DEPARTING

DE Nate D Smith, RS Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
DT Matt Loannidis, True Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
WLB Tyler Matakevich, True senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
SS Will Hayes, RS Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
CB Tavon Young, True Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
FS Alex Wells, True Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR

Come back to me when you know your own team a little better than I know your team.

But thanks for offering us good luck!

 

[rutgersguy1]

Win yes. Blowout no. That's a legit defense that ND won't roll up the points on.

I think they'll win by about 14pts at least but we'll see. I didn't see the Cincy game but did take a quick look at the stats and Cincy had 557 yds of offense and 34 first downs. They had 5 TOs though which obviously killed them. Unless Temple gets another +2 to +3 performance I don't know that it will be closer than 14. I don't think they played any other formidable offenses including PSU who sucks on offense. ECU isn't what it used to be on offense either.

 

[Ru2bnj]

For those that think having experienced players isn't important or think having a "young secondary" is nothing but an excuse. Their team reminds me a little of the 2006 RU team. Very experienced with a number of players who have started for 3 years plus. Good for them.

 

[vkj91]

Yea NOW tell me how many PRO WRs does Temple have so Walker can throw to like Carroo???
For that matter drop Carroo's yards and TD catches and look at Laviano's #
Even just drop Carroo stats by 50% and they fall below Walker

NOW tell me how many NFL DB's Walker is throwing against? How many NFL D lineman producing pressure? Anyone can play that silly game

 

[derleider]

Can you show any quote, article, conversation anywhere that state Rhule has any interest in Rutgers? That sounds more like wishful thinking more so than 'truth'. USC - hell yeah. Penn State after Franklin - hell yeah, that's probably his dream job. But RU in its state after his resume build at Temple?

Yes - RU in its current state is a better job than Temple and one he would take without thinking about it. He needs look no further than your opponent two weeks ago to see why - UCF won a BCS bowl just two seasons ago. Now they are one of the bottom ten FBS schools. Of course O Leary is old enough that hes not trying to build, but certainly Rhule isnt looking to stay at Temple forever and each additional year sticking around is a year where whatever mystique he has built about himself could be eroded by one or two key injuries.

 

[vkj91]

Yes - RU in its current state is a better job than Temple and one he would take without thinking about it. He needs look no further than your opponent two weeks ago to see why - UCF won a BCS bowl just two seasons ago. Now they are one of the bottom ten FBS schools. Of course O Leary is old enough that hes not trying to build, but certainly Rhule isnt looking to stay at Temple forever and each additional year sticking around is a year where whatever mystique he has built about himself could be eroded by one or two key injuries.

Mario Cristobol says hello.

 

[NickyNewark51]

Temple is winning with smoke and mirrors but gotta tip the hat to them. ND will be interesting. While I don't disagree with you bac if a strong temple really is a problem then we have deeper problems. While not dismissive to your point in this matchup my heart says temple.

My humble opinion.....Temples gonna shock the nation and whoop ND....at least i hope so.I really think as usual ND is overhyped and no better than PSU...but the hype in this case will magnify TU's upset...rightfully so.I remember UConn and Edsall doing it to them a few yrs ago.Some teams need to be taken down a peg....ND is a great example.

 

[WhiteBus]

Temple is winning with smoke and mirrors but gotta tip the hat to them. ND will be interesting. While I don't disagree with you bac if a strong temple really is a problem then we have deeper problems. While not dismissive to your point in this matchup my heart says temple.

Smoke and mirrors??? Do you even watch college football?

 

[TonyLieske]

Can't wait to see if they get gameday. Definitely deserve it IMHO. I think they have a legit shot at beating ND.

GO OWLS

 

[WhiteBus]

Philadelphia 2 Rutgers 0

 

[bac2therac]

If Rutgers wants to be a successful program, it shouldn't worry about a strong Temple in its backyard. The AAC is kind of like the MAC. Big Ten schools always have to deal with strong MAC schools in their backyard.

We shouldn't be worried about losing recruits to Temple. They will get some great recruits -- and I think they have a great team this year -- but honestly, we should be worried about losing recruits to Penn State and Maryland... and the rest of the teams in our conference.

except unfortunately we do have to worry...they compete for some of the same recruits and we aren't exactly doing a bang up job of recruiting this area. So yes I worry about losing recruits to Temple, it wouldn't happen if they sucked so go ahead and root for them but don't complain later

 

[Abro1975]

I'd go to the Gameday in Philly at Indepenndence Hall just to make the short walk over to Eulogy Belgium Beer Bar in Old City a few blocks away. Awesome beers and the best Mussels anywhere.

 

[NotInRHouse]

except unfortunately we do have to worry...they compete for some of the same recruits and we aren't exactly doing a bang up job of recruiting this area. So yes I worry about losing recruits to Temple, it wouldn't happen if they sucked so go ahead and root for them but don't complain later

The unfortunate reality of where our program is is that we need to worry about Temple.

Right now, RU is squandering its resources, which are exponentially richer than those of Temple (and half the p5 for that matter).

We can put Temple in the rear view once it looks like we actually are attempting to win the division instead of just trying to be 5th or 6th.

 

[SanFranRutgers]

I am not. A good Temple is not good for Rutgers

If Rutgers has to live in fear of Temple's success, then we need to fold up the program.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

LOL, just goes to show how bad Temple's fanbase is, when I know your roster better than you do

You will be losing 5 of 11 starters on offense and 6 out of 11 on defense, ALL in their final year of eligibility....and you say that calling your team senior dominated is a "swing and a miss?"

11 out of 22 starters are seniors. Half your starting lineup will need to be replaced.

You realize you will have to replace 3 out of 5 Olinemen and your two starting wide receivers on offense, and you say that is a SWING AND A MISS?

FROM OWLSPORTS (the official website of Temple University Athletics)

OFFENSE STARTERS DEPARTING

RT Eric Lofton, RS Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
LG Shahbaz Ahmed, True Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
C Kyle Friend, True senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
WR Robbie Anderson, RS Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
WR John Christopher, RS Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR

DEFENSE STARTERS DEPARTING

DE Nate D Smith, RS Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
DT Matt Loannidis, True Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
WLB Tyler Matakevich, True senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
SS Will Hayes, RS Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
CB Tavon Young, True Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR
FS Alex Wells, True Senior - GONE AFTER THIS YEAR

Come back to me when you know your own team a little better than I know your team.

But thanks for offering us good luck!

Well, I mean, he was only off by a single starter, lol, but you're still correct (he said "5 starters on both sides of the ball..I think he meant "each side" as nobody can be THAT far off about their own team...).

 

[LotusAggressor]

I'm not sure but his talents would work at several positions other than QB....We'll never know now unfortunately.

True, we won't. Because he wanted to be a QB, not anything other than a QB. And judging from the way the secondary has been coached in the last 2 plus years, he wouldn't have been any good as a defensive back at RU, either.

 

[MADHAT1]

I won't worry about birdies , fruit or puppies.
Temple improved and fans from those other two schools can worry about the Owls. I'll just worry about RU FB getting enough support from the RU Administration to help make the Rutgers Football program one that those 3 schools strive to be like.

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

LJ's brother Nate is playing lights out . Grew up in Highland Park and wanted to follow his brother to R.U. but we didn't think he could cut it academically. He has done just fine. Good for him.Haskins and Nate both grew up 5 minutes away and for different reasons we missed on both. Nobody's fault.. Just the way it goes. But I am always proud of my HP guys no matter where they end up..

 

[DHajekRC84]

I may just go down to see this game. 50mins away. Good for them. We need to keep a few more of these Jersey kids IMHO.
People need to stop disrespecting South Jersey.
But we're Rutgers. We've won...(hold on..I'll have to get back to you on that)