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Gannett NJ/North Jersey.Com With Another Hit Piece on Athletics Spending-Update 7/7--Another one!!!

Last week alone

NJ passed a budget giving RU $200 million

Big Ten adds two schools that will majorly up TV revenues

And that's forced the RU haters in the NJ media to read credit card statements.

They lost the war in a big way. Good riddance!

Agree with all except the good riddance. This war is over but the next one is always right around the corner. Rutgers needs to improve in its PR to assist with winning the next one. More Big Ten $ will certainly help.

Rutgers has an opportunity here. But now it is time for football to start to improve like the other sports have done so well.
 
Agree with all except the good riddance. This war is over but the next one is always right around the corner. Rutgers needs to improve in its PR to assist with winning the next one. More Big Ten $ will certainly help.

Rutgers has an opportunity here. But now it is time for football to start to improve like the other sports have done so well.
And that's where buying up a lot of these newspaper outlets comes into play. RU can control the message by financially controlling it and kicking out the detractors.
 
Here is a piece I might like to read, but it is behind a paywall. Newspaper people are really poor at business. Can you imagine sending out messages or taking out advertisements that are offensive or insulting to potential customers and then on the same day asking them to pay for your service to read an article that might be of interest? With Edelson, don't bet on it.

TO BE CLEAR: LINKED ARTICLE BEHIND PAYWALL:

 
Here is a piece I might like to read, but it is behind a paywall. Newspaper people are really poor at business. Can you imagine sending out messages or taking out advertisements that are offensive or insulting to potential customers and then on the same day asking them to pay for your service to read an article that might be of interest? With Edelson, don't bet on it.

TO BE CLEAR: LINKED ARTICLE BEHIND PAYWALL:

Jerry Carino retweeted the story immediately above and the hit piece story in the OP. 🤷‍♂️
 
Most people aren't very bright but love to complain.

It doesn't take a Mensa IQ to realize that the media has increased the propaganda and bias factor 10X over the last 20-30 years. And each side blames the other when both are guilty.
 
It doesn't take a Mensa IQ to realize that the media has increased the propaganda and bias factor 10X over the last 20-30 years. And each side blames the other when both are guilty.

It shouldn't take a Mensa IQ to figure out that the media-consuming public shares a large percentage — majority, really — of the blame, but people seem to ignore that very basic fact.

Like I said, folks love to complain.
 
No one bats an eye in Pa when $48 Million is used to build the new Penn State weight room facility.

That's why RU can't have nice things. No one bats an eye in PA because they actually care about college football there.
 
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It doesn't take a Mensa IQ to realize that the media has increased the propaganda and bias factor 10X over the last 20-30 years. And each side blames the other when both are guilty.
These isn't even a "sides" type of issue. In another thread, the story linked below claimed "What Holly Schepisi earns in a day as a state senator no longer covers the cost to drive from her home in River Vale to Trenton and back. Between rising gas prices and tolls, a round trip rings up to around $170, compared to the $135 a day she makes as a legislator representing parts of Bergen and Passaic counties."

But was we parsed out that claim, it seems the assembly is in session 50-60 times per year, and being a state senator is a part-time job that pays $49,000/year. Not aware of any senator driving to Trenton 365 days per year or every day of the work week. Beyond that, using an online calculator, we figured it cost at most $65 round trip in gas and tolls to drive to Trenton. Seems the Senator's claim went unchecked and is probably wildly inflated. More than likely the investigative pieces on Rutgers have similar inflated, incorrect numbers.


 
It shouldn't take a Mensa IQ to figure out that the media-consuming public shares a large percentage — majority, really — of the blame, but people seem to ignore that very basic fact.

Like I said, folks love to complain.
Is it complaining when one calls out bad reporting or agenda-based reporting weakly supported by the facts?
 
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These isn't even a "sides" type of issue. In another thread, the story linked below claimed "What Holly Schepisi earns in a day as a state senator no longer covers the cost to drive from her home in River Vale to Trenton and back. Between rising gas prices and tolls, a round trip rings up to around $170, compared to the $135 a day she makes as a legislator representing parts of Bergen and Passaic counties."

But was we parsed out that claim, it seems the assembly is in session 50-60 times per year, and being a state senator is a part-time job that pays $49,000/year. Not aware of any senator driving to Trenton 365 days per year or every day of the work week. Beyond that, using an online calculator, we figured it cost at most $65 round trip in gas and tolls to drive to Trenton. Seems the Senator's claim went unchecked and is probably wildly inflated. More than likely the investigative pieces on Rutgers have similar inflated, incorrect numbers.



Two things funny about that ... how horribly inaccurate it is to say that a legislator can't afford to drive to Trenton (for the reasons you stated) and that the $49K has been the salary for at least 20 years. If life was so tough for poor Holly Schepisi, she probably shouldn't have run for office, being able to easily identify the publicly available salary in about two seconds and all. Or she could always find another job to fill out the 300-odd days of the year she's not driving to Trenton.

Always seemed more common for legislators to work (at least one) high-paying job full-time, with legislative duties serving as a lucrative side hustle, than for them to treat it full-time and be in the district office on a regular basis along with the occasional trip to Trenton. Even if she chose something closer to the latter path, I'll bet the district office where she spends most of her legislative work time is in her hometown or within 20 minutes. And if it's not, it could be.
 
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Is it complaining when one calls out bad reporting or agenda-based reporting weakly supported by the facts?

If it's the same crappy sources that you yourself read and then post for others to read ... yah. Doubly so if you're reading it for free. Triply so if you're reading it free and running an ad blocker.

Mind-numbing that readers refuse to pay for actual journalism then complain about poorly written/researched content contrived to generate clicks (while at the same time delivering said clicks).
 
How many people complaining about the article would be OK with 100,000,000 of taxpayer money going to forgive college loans or build houses for homeless people or give $1,000 checks for anyone making under 20,000 per year.
 
How many people complaining about the article would be OK with 100,000,000 of taxpayer money going to forgive college loans or build houses for homeless people or give $1,000 checks for anyone making under 20,000 per year.
That's a double whataboutism that misses the point. The problem with the article for many is it a bs hit piece.

As for your whataboutism, the first one largely benefits privileged people who can afford to pay those loans and made poor college choices. The latter two have merit as helping the poor and disenfranchised get a leg up.
 
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That's a double whataboutism that misses the point. The problem with the article for many is it a bs hit piece.

As for your whataboutism, the first one largely benefits privileged people who can afford to pay those loans and made poor college choices. The latter two have merit as helping the poor and disenfranchised get a leg up.
a lot of those college loan forgiveness is for veterans that were tricked into taking them out by unscrupulous for profit Universities because they had family to take care of and told they needed more than their GI Bill to continue their education.
High School grad also were misled into taking out student loans to attend for profit universities being told they would be put in a great job once they graduated.
Some even were made to think their credits could be transferred to a state university .

but I agree with you about that article being a hit piece and I expect more to come.
When things start looking rosy for Rutgers , there are some in the media that likes to have RU look
like it's pushing up daisies
 
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a lot of those college loan forgiveness is for veterans that were tricked into taking them out by unscrupulous for profit Universities because they had family to take care of and told they needed more than their GI Bill to continue their education.
High School grad also were misled into taking out student loans to attend for profit universities being told they would be put in a great job once they graduated.
Some even were made to think their credits could be transferred to a state university .

but I agree with you about that article being a hit piece and I expect more to come.
When things start looking rosy for Rutgers , there are some in the media that likes to have RU look
like it's pushing up daisies

The loan forgiveness for "for profit" loans, IIRC, is less than 15% of the total loans involved. A small amount, I believe 2-3%, are for loans where the borrower has become permanently disabled. My guess is that if the forgiveness was limited to "permanent disability" it would pass both houses of Congress unanimously. Neither comes close to the loans connected to grad degrees.
 
Agree with all except the good riddance. This war is over but the next one is always right around the corner. Rutgers needs to improve in its PR to assist with winning the next one. More Big Ten $ will certainly help.

Rutgers has an opportunity here. But now it is time for football to start to improve like the other sports have done so well.
That opportunity is on the scoreboard…WIN or WIN and it might not go away completely, but it will be harder to sell. Much harder.
 
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"Part of the investigative journalism racket, at least in this example, is framing news with negative innuendo, in a way that looks damning, even when nothing illegal has taken place and in fact many of the charter schools mentioned in the article have proven track records of having achieved impressive and praiseworthy results."
Gosh, this strategy sounds familiar. I remember hearing testimony recently in a big, big case where a guy said “just say there’s an investigation and my people will take it from there”. With the bigly number of gullible folks out there today that foam at the mouth over anything against their tribe, I hate that ploy.
Hopefully an impartial jury (not one made up of political allies of said guy) will take such evidence from testimony and verifiable accounts under oath and do something about it. Maybe the 3rd time’s the charm.
 
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Of course the hit pieces will be coming the Newhouse kids are going to amp it up because Syracuse is on the outside looking in.

It seems kind of petty, but this is the reason you have to hate Rutgers in order to work for The Star Liar.
 
How many people complaining about the article would be OK with 100,000,000 of taxpayer money going to forgive college loans or build houses for homeless people or give $1,000 checks for anyone making under 20,000 per year.
Why should anyone’s taxpayer dollars go to paying off student debts? I need to return to the late 70’s when my wife and I (with 2 kids ) began paying off my loans. Done in 5 years and only because I didn’t want to default… now that’s funny. I remember back then how others walked away and were “ forgiven” and had the balls to joke about it. Sorry pay your debts or don’t preach about how the system is rigged .
 
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Why should anyone’s taxpayer dollars go to paying off student debts? I need to return to the late 70’s when my wife and I (with 2 kids ) began paying off my loans. Done in 5 years and only because I didn’t want to default… now that’s funny. I remember back then how others walked away and were “ forgiven” and had the balls to joke about it. Sorry pay your debts or don’t preach about how the system is rigged .
Why should anyone's tax payer dollars go to fund college sports?
 
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Hey I agree with you. This theory of we’ll use their money to pay off debt is something which is now dramatically wrong. Everyone on this board understands why it is done by those in charge. I’m all for the University being funded but it is now more than ever a reason to question the intent.
 
Why should anyone's tax payer dollars go to fund college sports?
Because it is part of the university and the university's identity. Athletics provides opportunities for students to attend on full scholarships that might not otherwise have an opportunity to attend college. Also, donors to their alma mater usually start donating through athletics and then donate to the university for academic and other causes. As President Holloway has said, athletics is the front porch or many large universities, whether some people agree or like that fact. We could take your same question and say why should taxpayer dollars fund college glee clubs, band, art clubs, and various other on campus activities.
 
Obviously I am playing a little bit devil’s advocate.

Those programs you mention don’t require a fraction of the money we are talking.

I am just calling out the anti government folks who have a problem with spending except for the spending that benefits them.
 
Agree with all except the good riddance. This war is over but the next one is always right around the corner. Rutgers needs to improve in its PR to assist with winning the next one. More Big Ten $ will certainly help.

Rutgers has an opportunity here. But now it is time for football to start to improve like the other sports have done so well.

Certainly there have been justified media attacks (Flood and Rice) but the attacks over finances were never based in reality.

Previously the same outlet said RU athletics was in the red but also that they didn't factor in the $40M+ a year from the TV contract.

Even NJ.com has gotten better with the B1G move...there's just a few stragglers. And they know their reach or they'd tried to have upset the budget.
 
How many people complaining about the article would be OK with 100,000,000 of taxpayer money going to forgive college loans or build houses for homeless people or give $1,000 checks for anyone making under 20,000 per year.

Count me in.

The NJ budget also gives 100M towards RU academics.

The only NJ figures complaining about this are the ones who think they're special because they pay OOS tuition for the Cult or James Madison or whatever flavor du jour and are angry that NJ has joined the other 49 states with properly supporting its state U.
 
A new age of...

yellow journalism, the use of lurid features and sensationalized news in newspaper publishing to attract readers and increase circulation.

I'd imagine that, since the birth of newspapers, yellow journalism is the norm. We may have had a brief era where there were more professional journalistic standards.. but we have returned to the norm.. YELLOW.
That is why Jerry Izenberg remains an ICON.
 
Obviously I am playing a little bit devil’s advocate.

Those programs you mention don’t require a fraction of the money we are talking.

I am just calling out the anti government folks who have a problem with spending except for the spending that benefits them.
That happens on all sides. It is not just conservatives who are fiscally conservative until it is something they want. It goes for the liberals and socialists and Marxists as well.
 
New article today:

"What our reporters found by creating dozens of spreadsheets, based on audits, cash flow statements, and debt schedules, was an alarming — and until now hidden — flow of state government, taxpayer and student money to athletics. Losses were more than $73 million two years running."



 
This
People just don’t get it. Feeds on the yellow journalism dbags nj.com
 
In 100 years, if this board exist and that site is still active, there will be a similar tread!

Don't take it personally or even read it, it is just their stock and trade. If Rutgers ever received some positive coverage, well Hell would be frozen over.
 
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New article today:

"What our reporters found by creating dozens of spreadsheets, based on audits, cash flow statements, and debt schedules, was an alarming — and until now hidden — flow of state government, taxpayer and student money to athletics. Losses were more than $73 million two years running."




That is an alarming waste ... of time.

Imagine going through all that trouble.
 
The article implies that Murphy is "concerned" by spending but neglects the fact that he signed a budget with overwhelming support in the legislature to support athletics.

That they came up with this BS the day after the budget passed shows it's a nothingburger and no one cares.
 
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