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God Forbid: Creme NCAA Bracketology

I wouldn't sweat Creme too much. For example, he had RU in the tournament last year, and we all know how that turned out.

Team just needs to take care of business in Indy.
 
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We need to just take care of business in the B1G tourney. I think if we reach the finals by beating Iowa, we could easily secure a 6th seed in the NCAA's.
 
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bac2therac said:
Realtime rpi bracketology has RU as 6 seed playing 11 seed BYU and possibly getting Syracuse in the 2nd round

http://realtimerpi.com/bracketology/bracketology_Women.html

there is no guarantee that UConn is a 1 seed this year
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If RU were to get a 6 seed and face BYU, this would be much more palatable than Creme's prognostication. In this bracket I like that if we beat BYU we get matched up with Syracuse. Get past them it would be a team like Miss. State. I actually like this bracket for a change compared to where we usually get placed.

Lastly, I could see the committee pick a team like Stanford over UCONN for the last 1 seed. If this is the case I also like that UCONN is placed in the Spokane bracket rather than the Albany bracket.
 
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bac2therac said:
Realtime rpi bracketology has RU as 6 seed playing 11 seed BYU and possibly getting Syracuse in the 2nd round

http://realtimerpi.com/bracketology/bracketology_Women.html

there is no guarantee that UConn is a 1 seed this year
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I'm sure they will be, but will they be playing in Albany .
If they stay #2 , I'd say there's a good chance they do.
The question ( if nothing changes in the top 25 standings ) is where will Baylor ( if #1) be placed if Notre Dame is #4 and probably a lock for Chicago.
Leaving Greensboro NC , but in Louisville #3 territory .
Portland Oregon might be where they wind up, but I would believe NC would be preferable to them and might push Louisville west .
Then there's Oregon lurking at 6 and could be given the Portland top seed .

I think the NCAA doesn't want to put ND away from the Midwest region in Chicago and UConn out of the East.
Baylor going west doesn't seem likely to me, so they'll be put in South Region and Oregon might jump in as a #1 seed because of possible attendance they might bring.
Possibly Louisville could be sent west as a #1 seed and Oregon placed at 2

That's my speculation and doubt everything stays the same . Which will blow up my seeding theory :sunglasses:
 
RUClassof67 said:
Real-time RPI still has us as a 6 seed going to Syracuse. I’d take this in a heartbeat.

http://realtimerpi.com/bracketology/bracketology_Women.html
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While this bracket wouldn't be so bad for RU, it is not realistic. There is no way Uconn get's sent anywhere other than Albany. They will either be the #1 or #2 in that region. I think Syracuse could be put in the Albany region with Uconn and RU could be the #6 in Albany. I think ND get's the #1 in Chicago.
 
RUClassof67 said:
Good news is our RPI has dropped to 24 meaning a better shot at a 6 or better.
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Why better than 6? Wouldn't 24 mean that a 6 seed is what we earned? barely. How could we be a higher seed than some with a 20 or high teens RPI? If anything, they will drop us a little to "honor" smaller conference champs.. no?
 
GoodOl'Rutgers said:
Why better than 6? Wouldn't 24 mean that a 6 seed is what we earned? barely. How could we be a higher seed than some with a 20 or high teens RPI? If anything, they will drop us a little to "honor" smaller conference champs.. no?
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Because RPI is not the sole determining factor. Strength of schedule and other things are also part if the committees decision process. If it were strictly RPI, why bother having a Selection Committee. But we were at an RPI of 29 prior to the tournament. Moving higher is a good sign.
 
RUClassof67 said:
Because RPI is not the sole determining factor. Strength of schedule and other things are also part if the committees decision process. If it were strictly RPI, why bother having a Selection Committee. But we were at an RPI of 29 prior to the tournament. Moving higher is a good sign.
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Isn't RPI a thing that factors SoS and other measurables together? The only thing left is conference politics, attendance and viewer ratings and people on the committee having eachothers backs... trading favors. I cannot think of one reason why they would elevate Rutgers ABOVE their RPI in the seedings. And I think history has shown us that it works the other way where Rutgers is concerned. But I hope I am proved very wrong. Oh. in attendance above.. consider that trying to keep teams more local.. moving them up or down for a "favorable" location in the pod system.

In the OP "Creme" prediction, looks like we were moved DOWN and stuck into UCONN's favored location. That ain't right.. but history shows us its likely to happen something like that.
 
Basically with RPI, the closer you are to the top and the closer you are to the bottom, the more likely your RPI is going to reflect your seed. IIRC, no team worse than 7 ever has gotten a #1 seed, only one top 5 team ever has gotten worse than a 2 seed, and you can be pretty sure all of the teams with the bottom 8 RPIs will get 15s and 16s (although which teams get which generally is more of a matter of geography than anything else). Once you get below, oh, 10, there starts to be a meaningful range from the highest to lowest seeds given to teams at a specific RPI.

Teams with RPIs in the 20-30 range get all sorts of seeds. Since 2000, teams sitting at RPI 24 have had seeds as high as 4 (twice), and as low as 11 (3 times); the most common seeds were 5 (6 times) and 6 (4 times. (By the way, no team with an RPI of 24 has missed the tournament in that time.)
 
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On the 13th, Creme leaves us at an 8th, putting us in Waco, with Clemson as our first game ... and Baylor at the next round.

(Why South Dakota, with a much lower rpi and sos, and a loss to SD State in their tourny game yesterday, still gets a 7th by Creme is beyond me.)
 
RC66 said:
On the 13th, Creme leaves us at an 8th, putting us in Waco, with Clemson as our first game ... and Baylor at the next round.

(Why South Dakota, with a much lower rpi and sos, and a loss to SD State in their tourny game yesterday, still gets a 7th by Creme is beyond me.)
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And Real-time RPI Bracketology has us as a 6 playing Ohio in Syracuse.
 
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It sure would be nice to get a 7 or 6 seed and stay away from the 1 seeds till the Sweet 16. And any Region other than Baylors' would be advantageous as well. Guess I'm hoping for the 6 or 7 seed in Albany or Chicago, as I'm guessing Baylor will be put in Greensboro, keeping ND in Chicago and UConn in Albany, ensuring maximum attendance.
 
Abro1975 said:
It sure would be nice to get a 7 or 6 seed and stay away from the 1 seeds till the Sweet 16. And any Region other than Baylors' would be advantageous as well. Guess I'm hoping for the 6 or 7 seed in Albany or Chicago, as I'm guessing Baylor will be put in Greensboro, keeping ND in Chicago and UConn in Albany, ensuring maximum attendance.
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Again just a reminder that a 7 seed this year doesn’t protect us from UConn early as they may well be a 2 seed. We want a 6 or better.
 
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The 7 seed (or 6) is a HUGE advantage over 8. With an RPI of 25, a 3rd place finish in the conference and playing Iowa tough in the Semi Final, I'd think we have a pretty good shot at a 7.
8 would stink. I just hope the NCAA doesn't punish RU for not playing in the NIT last year.
 
RC66 said:
On the 13th, Creme leaves us at an 8th, putting us in Waco, with Clemson as our first game ... and Baylor at the next round.

(Why South Dakota, with a much lower rpi and sos, and a loss to SD State in their tourny game yesterday, still gets a 7th by Creme is beyond me.)
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It's hard to see SD State or South Dakota getting a 6 or 7 seed. Their SOS is pretty crummy, and neither of them has any really good wins.
 
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If Creme is trying to predict what the Selection Committee will do, treating RU in the worst possible way is probably the odds-on favorite choice, no?

Also, RPI for RU dropped after the Gonzaga loss. It is now at 25.
 
Central Michigan, which Creme had has a 7th seed ahead of us, got knocked out of its tourny in a MAC semi-final today. That's another team Creme (with a worse rpi and worse sos) that Creme has ahead of us.
 
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RC66 said:
Central Michigan, which Creme had has a 7th seed ahead of us, got knocked out of its tourny in a MAC semi-final today. That's another team Creme (with a worse rpi and worse sos) that Creme has ahead of us.
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He's dropped CMU to an 8 seed. Overall, he's given a surprising number of non-major teams top-8 seeds. As of this morning, that includes Gonzaga (5), Marquette (5), South Dakota State (6), BYU (7), DePaul (7), Drake (7), South Dakota (7), and Central Michigan (8).
 
RU is currently #24 in RPI. I'm not sure how much weight is given to RPI, but strictly by math, #24 would be the last 6 seed.

Our Strength of schedule is #33 in the RPI, there are 7 teams with higher RPIs with worse strength of schedules.

RU is the 3rd highest Big 10 team at #24 w Iowa and Maryland ahead.

IMO, anything worse than a 7 seed would be unfair.

http://realtimerpi.com/college_Women_basketball_rpi.html

last year Ohio St was a 3 seed,
Maryland a 5 seed
Iowa a 6 seed
Michigan a 7 seed
Nebraska a 10 seed
Minn a 10 seed

Again, I just don't see how the 3rd best team in the Big 10 (RU) gets worse than a 7 seed.
 
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He's dropped CMU to an 8 seed. Overall, he's given a surprising number of non-major teams top-8 seeds. As of this morning, that includes Gonzaga (5), Marquette (5), South Dakota State (6), BYU (7), DePaul (7), Drake (7), South Dakota (7), and Central Michigan (8).
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He will likely be wrong..these teams usually seeded worse than their records would indicate..all cones down to sos
 
I really don't understand Creme's way of thinking. I truly believe he's dead wrong here. If you go to the real RPI bracketology site, it shows Rutgers is a 6 seed. At another site, it has us as a 5th seed. I don't see us being a 5th, but I could see us as a 6th seed and at least a 7th seed just based on our SOS and RPI.
 
Don’t worry RU will get that 8 seed in CT bracket.

NCAA not impressed with 3rd place finish, and playing tough in the tourney against the tourney champs in the semis. Single digit losses(22-9) as a B1G member? Unacceptable in their eyes!

Personally, 3rd best team in B1G deserves a 7 or higher seed. Let’s compare RUs WBB vs 3rd place Men’s team.
 
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RC66 said:
And RealtimeRPI has South Dakota State in two different places in their bracket.
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Either that will greatly increase their chance for advancement or they will have to play 2 games in one day, possibly at the same time in different states.
 
If Missouri State upsets Drake on Sunday afternoon, will the committee put two MVC teams in the NCAAs? (MOS did split with Drake in regular season play.)

Drake, which Creme has as a 7th seed, is a ranked team and has the head-to-head over us. But MOS is an unranked 65 rpi team.

Go Lady Bears!

(Hey, Buffalo upsetting Ohio and BYU upsetting Gonzaga both hurt our RPI and NCAA seeding prospects a lot; we're due for another upset to help us instead.)
 
St Francis (PA) whom we beat in the season opener is playing Robert Morris in the NEC final. Although going only 15-16, they are putting up a good fight. Down 32-31 early 3rd quarter. Not sure what impact this has but I believe it would help our RPI?

Edited to say: I guess I jinxed them. Now down 43-35
 
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