We can be assured that he asked for that too.I'd much rather see funds put into getting the best staff possible. . . . . .
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We can be assured that he asked for that too.I'd much rather see funds put into getting the best staff possible. . . . . .
It doesn't matter. He doesn't need to work anymore...
It is a supply and demand issue. He knows his value to the fanbase. He should be prepared to walk away if he doesn't get what he wants.
The same think applies to any of us.
If you were financially secure enough to not need to work, you would pick and choose who you worked for and how you worked, on your terms...
It is an enviable position to be in to have "F*ck you money".
The two reasons this doesn't get done are 1. Rutgers being cheap/small time (history on that side) or 2. Greg being a complete ass(history on that side).This is Rutgers shit or get off the pot moment. A chance to go all in and do what it takes to conpete in big 10 athletics . If they decline and then hire lesser, make no mistake this school will continue to do the bare minimum while misleading a fanbase that gets duped into believing.
Critical moment here
I think the response here is that Hobbs looks at Greg Brown and says, This is your guy are you going to give him what he wants."
As many have said I do not think that football or BB hiring with the amount of money it cost is left to any AD. The money guys are in there and if they say yes, then it is a go. I know that at least one of these big-money guys was against GS coming back but, has since changed his mind.
I think at this point if GS does not come it will be because the boosters are unwilling to foot the bill for what he wants.
I know that some of you anti-Hobbs guys are still going to try and spin it that it was his fault but we all know who is making this decision now and it ain't Hobbs.
If those are his demands, he does know what it takes. RU will cheap out and hired Ash 2.0.If the idea is come in, pay him $4MM, agree to $100MM in facility upgrades, then he doesn't know what it takes to win. At Rutgers.
It doesn't matter. He doesn't need to work anymore...
It is a supply and demand issue. He knows his value to the fanbase. He should be prepared to walk away if he doesn't get what he wants.
The same think applies to any of us.
If you were financially secure enough to not need to work, you would pick and choose who you worked for and how you worked, on your terms...
It is an enviable position to be in to have "F*ck you money".
If those are his demands, he does know what it takes. RU will cheap out and hired Ash 2.0.
Odd that someone would feed this to Politi - what's the point of that? The men who can make it happen were in the meeting.
Definitely a critical moment for a lot of fans I’m sure. If they hire Schiano I’ll go back to buying tickets. Butch Jones or some lesser guy.. pass
This is all fine but then Hobbs needs to shut up about wanting to go the Rose Bowl. He should know the level of commitment necessary to achieve such a thing. Don't say it if you really don't mean it.
But we got Ashed. It’s going to take 100mm to get out of this hole. I would agree with your statement when we were looking to replace Flood.If committing right now to a new $100MM facility is what it takes to win, we ain't winning.
Our facilities aren't Oregon's, but they are getting way blown out of proportion. We have facilities that compare to other schools that are doing much better.
Hobbs has publicly committed to that already.We can be assured that he asked for that too.
But we got Ashed. It’s going to take 100mm to get out of this hole. I would agree with your statement when we were looking to replace Flood.
If committing right now to a new $100MM facility is what it takes to win, we ain't winning.
Our facilities aren't Oregon's, but they are getting way blown out of proportion. We have facilities that compare to other schools that are doing much better.
Look at Maryland!That's fine but Rutgers hasn't had the luxury of printing money for decades like the OSU, UM, and PSU's of the world.
If committing right now to a new $100MM facility is what it takes to win, we ain't winning.
Our facilities aren't Oregon's, but they are getting way blown out of proportion. We have facilities that compare to other schools that are doing much better.
Yes, we can be Indiana or Maryland. But I thought the goal was higher.Any good coach and staff can get the program to mediocrity or beyond, right now, with not one more facility investment made. They aren't that bad. In fact, our practice facility, where they spend most of their time, is very nice.
You have to wonder if G.S. has the best interest in the school in his mind. There is only so much money the school can give.We don't need all that but we do need to take football seriously.
Does Hobbs really want to go to the Rose Bowl or not?
This is all fine but then Hobbs needs to shut up about wanting to go the Rose Bowl. He should know the level of commitment necessary to achieve such a thing. Don't say it if you really don't mean it.
If any of you have switched jobs, you would know that your max negotiating power is right before you sign the contract.
It is best to aim high on the initial negotiation before accepting the job. It's much harder to negotiate once on the job.
I'm fine with Schiano aiming high. He should. As should we all.
We are almost NEVER going to play for a Championship
Did Kansas, UNC, Louisville, and Kansas State all get facilities built this past off-season? I simply can't fathom how they all are so much better this year only with better coaching when they don't have Ohio State level facilities built now that were not there last year.
Yes, we can be Indiana or Maryland. But I thought the goal was higher.
Yes, we can be Indiana or Maryland. But I thought the goal was higher.
Any good coach and staff can get the program to mediocrity or beyond, right now, with not one more facility investment made. They aren't that bad. In fact, our practice facility, where they spend most of their time, is very nice.
Correct-a-mundo... The big guys don't need sugar-daddies.. but have multiples. Oregon has a sugar-daddy and has done fine. Oklahoma State has a sugar daddy and does okay... not great. Maryland has a sugar daddy and struggles. Rutgers has some decent supporters.. but no ultra-rich pushing it. Rutgers has to be smarter about everything... and we have not been.Here is the kicker. And I hate to break it to the board. We aren't Ohio St. Unless you all start donating a lot more money, on a yearly basis, we will never be Ohio St. Schools like that's biggest problem is where to spend the vast resources they have.
We need to win in other ways. Is that hard? Yep. But that's the only way. As is, there is no reason we can't compete with Indiana, Purdue, and the other teams at that level.
What was G.S. really done since Rutgers??? Move to next candidate.Butch Jones should be a huge upgrade from Ash and Flood. Can he take us to the promise land? I have no idea. But if the boosters and money men refuse to meet Schiano's demands, then Butch Jones is one hell of a fallback plan, IMHO. On paper anyway.
Someone mentioned Rose bowl.I never recall anyone saying our goal was to have the best facilities.
Someone mentioned Rose bowl.
Gave us expectations for football. It’s all his fault. None of this would matter if we are in the AAC playing for the last bowl spot.What was G.S. really done since Rutgers??? Move to next candidate.
Just yesterday you were bragging that you had great knowledge 3 weeks ago that Greg was coming back, as it's a "Take it to the Bank" moment. Did you or any of your insiders stop patting yourselves on the back, and take a New York minute and think maybe his demands would be out of reach for Rutgers??? The I know something you don't know crowd never ceases to turn my stomach!!!Oh please then everyone will shit on him for NOT saying as much.
If boosters are now the decision makers we’re all in trouble!This is where Hobbs and the big boosters come in. Remember that the Rodkins have given the single largest donation to athletics at $ 15 million dollars. I would imagine that if Greg Brown is involved he is bringing these demands back to these mega boosters and saying, " we have to spend money to make money and bringing GS in will immediately increase revenue but he needs this to really compete. I fully in the camp that this decision will be made by Greg Brown and the Boosters.
If boosters are now the decision makers we’re all in trouble!
All we need to do now is make Rutgers the #1 academic school. Think 100mm is easier / achievable.Yep. As mentioned, Stanford played in it recently. Our facilities right now are better. It's not a facilities issue that Rutgers has. It's a coaching issue.
When GS was here last he was adamant that he have the whole Hale Center. Now he would.
I'd add... leaking it.. accurate or inaccurate.. could just be designed to piss off Schiano.. if your assumption is true. That is, GS wouldn't want to work for him. And if GS pulls out.. Hobbs gets what he wants without looking like the bad guy.If I were an school administrator who didn't want to hire Schiano, I might consider leaking this to the press as in, "Look at how unreasonably expensive it will be to hire this control freak. Wouldn't it be very prudent to explore other options?"-style attempt to halt a train running downhill.
Why is the goal mediocrity?
Just yesterday you were bragging that you had great knowledge 3 weeks ago that Greg was coming back, as it's a "Take it to the Bank" moment. Did you or any of your insiders stop patting yourselves on the back, and take a New York minute and think maybe his demands would be out of reach for Rutgers??? The I know something you don't know crowd never ceases to turn my stomach!!!
All we need to do now is make Rutgers the #1 academic school. Think 100mm is easier / achievable.