Just tried to find it, but either I missed it, or it's fallen off the first 3 pages of threads.Posted a bunch on him in the OC? And coordinator candidates threads.
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Just tried to find it, but either I missed it, or it's fallen off the first 3 pages of threads.Posted a bunch on him in the OC? And coordinator candidates threads.
I hope so, but they could always counter. Hopefully comes down to keeping the wife happy.Actually not. Only making 650000. We could pay him much more.
Exactly. It would be an enormous let down if, with the expanded assistant salary pool, the best Greg could come up with is John McNulty.
A bunch of posts I put in here. Now you see why I repeat things ad nauseam lol cause I know things are missed haha.Just tried to find it, but either I missed it, or it's fallen off the first 3 pages of threads.
I'm sure that plenty of coordinators coming from lower tier programs have succeeded. Just like plenty don't succeed, right?I always forget how they’re have never been OC’s or DC’s ego moved from the FCS - or lower - up to the BCS and been successful.
This would be a steal IMHO and, apparently, wifey isn’t a big fan of Stillwater.
Doesn't this beg the question of why leave OK St. and an established P5 program with money for Rutgers, which many here would say is penny wise, pound foolish? Seems like it would be a step back for him. I get the Ms. may not be happy in Stillwater, but if Penn St. OC opens up that would be a more fitting landing spot in terms of a step up or at least no more than a lateral move. Don't get me wrong, would like to see him here, but just wondering how this would get done.are you kidding me? Okie state leads the country in plays over 50 yards. They scored under 20 points exactly once this season....against Oklahoma. And they still had over 300 yards of offense. 33 points a game. Hes young, from NJ. This would be not just a home run, but a grand slam.
Doesn't this beg the question of why leave OK St. and an established P5 program with money for Rutgers, which many here would say is penny wise, pound foolish? Seems like it would be a step back for him. I get the Ms. may not be happy in Stillwater, but if Penn St. OC opens up that would be a more fitting landing spot in terms of a step up or at least no more than a lateral move. Don't get me wrong, would like to see him here, but just wondering how this would get done.
Maybe we now have a coach that coordinators want to work with. He's a NJ native, we have a pretty large assistant coach money pool, we might be able to pay him MORE. Stillwater is in the middle of nowhere.Doesn't this beg the question of why leave OK St. and an established P5 program with money for Rutgers, which many here would say is penny wise, pound foolish? Seems like it would be a step back for him. I get the Ms. may not be happy in Stillwater, but if Penn St. OC opens up that would be a more fitting landing spot in terms of a step up or at least no more than a lateral move. Don't get me wrong, would like to see him here, but just wondering how this would get done.
I would think any talk of McNulty returning is a joke. For him its only downside. I think he is done with Rutgers and vice versa.The likelihood of McNulty coming back is slim.
It would make terrible PR for the program that already looked foolish in the Schiano return mess.
Adding taking back someone the RU AD recently fired would make Hobbs look like a total incompetent, when it comes to football, and the HC trying to make him look that way.
I personally feel hiring John back would put a permanent wedge between Hobbs and Schiano's relationship , along with being a very petty move by Greg.
With the money available to pay the OC , Schiano will be able to find someone that can run the offense just as well or better than John ( in my opinion)
I'm sure that plenty of coordinators coming from lower tier programs have succeeded. Just like plenty don't succeed, right?
The thing here is that the OC position is critical. You think Schiano is going to be as hands off w/Gleeson as he would be with someone older and more experienced?
Can you deny that someone with years of experience at the P5 level, who has demonstrated an ability to score a ton of points in games where they were significant underdogs would be less risky? And that we have the budget to not take risks with this hire?
Doesn't this beg the question of why leave OK St. and an established P5 program with money for Rutgers, which many here would say is penny wise, pound foolish? Seems like it would be a step back for him. I get the Ms. may not be happy in Stillwater, but if Penn St. OC opens up that would be a more fitting landing spot in terms of a step up or at least no more than a lateral move. Don't get me wrong, would like to see him here, but just wondering how this would get done.
I don't have names. It's not my job to find them. It's Schiano's job.So list the names of these guys and PLEASE don’t say “John McNulty.”
I wouldn't worry about McNulty. I heard it was gonna be the guy from Oklahoma State. Grassley, I think his name is.
NO MCNULTY. That would be my first critique of Schiano if that happened.
notice how fast Artur came back? That’s why I’d bet it’s McNulty.
Why would Gleeson leave OSU? They pay pretty good.
Sounds good, however the Big 12 has a reputation of not playing defense. So how would he be against the B1G defenses.are you kidding me? Okie state leads the country in plays over 50 yards. They scored under 20 points exactly once this season....against Oklahoma. And they still had over 300 yards of offense. 33 points a game. Hes young, from NJ. This would be not just a home run, but a grand slam.
He wouldn’t mesh well with Greg, but he had proven he can develope a QBrich rodriguez!
He and more importantly his wife are from NJ...We all know Happy Wife Happy Life
"free Schiano up to focus on the D as well as executive oversight and recruiting". If GS does anything other than this, regardless of who is hired as OC, this 2nd go around will be a dissapointment.I am kind of hoping for someone with more big-time experience. He has exactly one year of it (I don't consider Princeton or Fairleigh Dickinson-Florham big-time). Not saying he's awful, and maybe his youth is a good thing, from a recruiting standpoint, considering Schiano ain't exactly a spring chicken anymore.
I guess I would really like to see an OC who has repeatedly demonstrated an ability to score tons of points from the position of a significant underdog. And looking at the OK State schedule and results for 2019, I didn't see that (plus it was only 1 year which isn't enough data to confidently extrapolate).
The offensive position coaches can always bring the youth and NJ personality to the recruiting effort. An old hand might be better able to free Schiano up to focus on the D as well as executive oversight and recruiting.
I think that's probably true. I was just trying to put it diplomatically. You know me, always trying not to offend. :WideSmile:"free Schiano up to focus on the D as well as executive oversight and recruiting". If GS does anything other than this, regardless of who is hired as OC, this 2nd go around will be a dissapointment.
Chuck is from IowaI wouldn't worry about McNulty. I heard it was gonna be the guy from Oklahoma State. Grassley, I think his name is.
And away we go...
I agree no mcnulty-- also maybe some baggage thereNothing is more important than Schiano's choice of OC. He should hire an OC that is a better pure football coach than himself. A proven offensive genius who already knows how to do more with less.
It is in this hire that we will get our first glimpse into how well Schiano can recruit assistant talent. Can he bring in a big-time experienced OC? He has the budget to do so. There's no excuse not to get a truly epic, experienced OC.
Bring in a great OC and he can cheap out a little with the DC job and focus more attention on that aspect of game day planning and execution.
And please no, not McNulty. Far as I'm concerned, Nunzio did a better job of running the offense than McNulty did, and he did so without some key weapons McNulty had.
No modern-day offense fit McNulty or Sit.But it’s been reported that Greg is likely going to run a spread offense. That offense doesn’t fit McNulty or Sit.
Chuck is from Iowa
I'd love to see Gary hire Grimley or Greeley.Yeah, I was talking about the guy from OK State. Greeley. Grimley.
I think the only thing that offering Gleeson does is get him a raise and he stays a cowboy. He got his 4 star QB to commit and is an up and coming star. Probably has aspirations of another year or two at OC followed by a head coaching gig. I think it would take something more then a lateral move to a rebuilding program to get him to move.
I am kind of hoping for someone with more big-time experience. He has exactly one year of it (I don't consider Princeton or Fairleigh Dickinson-Florham big-time). Not saying he's awful, and maybe his youth is a good thing, from a recruiting standpoint, considering Schiano ain't exactly a spring chicken anymore.
I guess I would really like to see an OC who has repeatedly demonstrated an ability to score tons of points from the position of a significant underdog. And looking at the OK State schedule and results for 2019, I didn't see that (plus it was only 1 year which isn't enough data to confidently extrapolate).
The offensive position coaches can always bring the youth and NJ personality to the recruiting effort. An old hand might be better able to free Schiano up to focus on the D as well as executive oversight and recruiting.
Why would Gleeson leave OSU? They pay pretty good.