#hireGolden
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I'm in the camp that Al Golden Got a very raw deal in Miami .
I also think many people on this board talk without having much knowledge about certain coaches and names.
Al Golden would be a slam Dunk hire for Rutgers in my opinion.
He has the respect of many coaches in South Jersey and Eastern PA as well as many Northern NJ coaches not to mention South Florida . He is also very very good, by all accounts, at alumni relations which is something Rutgers desparately needs.
He knows he got a raw deal in Miami and there is no better place to prove they made a mistake then in the Big Ten East against Harbaugh,Meyer,etc.....
Just my two cents.
I also think many people on this board talk without having much knowledge about certain coaches and names.
Al Golden would be a slam Dunk hire for Rutgers in my opinion.
He has the respect of many coaches in South Jersey and Eastern PA as well as many Northern NJ coaches not to mention South Florida . He is also very very good, by all accounts, at alumni relations which is something Rutgers desparately needs.
He knows he got a raw deal in Miami and there is no better place to prove they made a mistake then in the Big Ten East against Harbaugh,Meyer,etc.....
Just my two cents.
Disagree. You heard what you wanted to hear. We can agree to disagree on how it read, tho.
Don't want to derail this thread any further.
While I have no concrete proof of this there has been some scuttlebutt that some of the biggest Donors are still pissed over the Pernetti firing. If you step out of the box and think about it for a moment, ask yourselves how does a school get an invite to the B10 and agrees to keep a coach like Kyle Flood and hire an AD the caliber of JH? Something doesn't add up guys. I believe a power struggle is beginning to brew behind the scenes and I sincerely believe it involves Trenton (politics) and some very wealthy people.
At this point in time yes I would take Al Golden. I once heard Bob Stoops say that Mark Mangino deserved equal credit for their 2000 season and National Championship. He also won a BCS game with Kansas. If he's a changed man would people give him a look?
At this point in time yes I would take Al Golden. I once heard Bob Stoops say that Mark Mangino deserved equal credit for their 2000 season and National Championship. He also won a BCS game with Kansas. If he's a changed man would people give him a look?
Hit the nail on the head. He did not fit in Miami...plain and simple. He was the wrong hire there from day 1.
To be fair his first 3 years he was recruiting with the threat of sanctions ... Again how do you succeed in that enviromnet Plato g in a pro stadium 40 minutes from campus, and donors back I g out after the investigations.
It will take a long time until Miami becomes Miami again.
Miami hired Golden then self imposed a 30 scholarship loss over 3 years. Then the NCAA cleared them. Which completely f-Ed him on both ends.
Jersey guys. Have had success in college. Respected in NJ and Florida. Good at building programs. May be able to come as a bargain.
It's cool if you guys want to ignore that Golden probably squandered more top talent than any head coach in America in his tenure at Miami. Here are the recruiting rankings of the classes he brought in from 2011-2015 & the stocked cubbard that he stepped into with the 5 prior classes from 2006-10:
2015 #26
2014 #12
2013 #20
2012 #9
2011 #36
2010 #16
2009 #15
2008 #5
2007 #19
2006 #14
Nope, earlier in the thread I listed my favorites. I'd take Schiano #1, Golden #2 (though a very close 2nd), anyone but Flood 3.
Todd Monken, Southern Miss HC
Doug Meacham, TCU OC
Dave Aranda, Wisconsin DC
Dino Babers, Bowling Green HC
Rod Carey, Northern Illinois HC
Bud Foster, Virginia Tech DC
Matt Campbell, Toledo HC
Joe Moglia, Coastal Carolina HC
Mike Sanford, Notre Dame OC
Jeff Brohm, western Kentucky HC
We're not ignoring that he struggled at Miami...
But there's a reason, in our opinions, that he did. It's speculated in other places too. He wasn't 100% supported there. He was given a raw deal by the administration. He wasn't a Miami guy.
If he's such a bad coach, why did he succeed at Temple? It seems you're choosing to ignore that.
We can't take a chance on an up-and-comer. Not with Harbaugh, Franklin, Meyer, and whatever big name Maryland is going after..all in our division. We need someone proven at this point.
Aranda and Foster, if I had to chose from the list, would be my top 2. Although without HC experience, I'd be hesitant.
Nah. You had Golden 1 & Schiano 2, go back & check, hence the antipsychotics.
He wasn't supported so that is why he couldn't coach all that elite talent he had from his predecessor & then the elite talent he added himself? Seriously? His job is coaching. If he can't coach & win with elite talent in a weaker conference, then he'd be a disaster here with far lesser talent. He was stocked with elite talent & brought in more yet couldn't win. Pass on the wannabe JoePa.
Fine we can't take a chance on an up and comer, then give me Lane Kiffin. At least I know he can recruit, plus maybe he learned something from Saban the last 2 seasons.
Whelp, I meant Schiano 1 and Golden 2. At work so doing lots of things at once...ha..sorry.
Yes, when you know you have ZERO support, its tough to do a job, in my opinion. The alums are calling for your head..you don't think it effects the kids? There's planes flying over practice/games, don't think the kids are effected?
If he's such a terrible coach, why did he have success turning around a 0-12 Temple team to 9-4. Then the team fell to 2-10 2 years after he left?
I'd take Kiffin too...but won't happen. He has too much baggage. Rutgers needs someone clean.
"Lazy Recruiter". That is not my quote, that is a quote from someone inside the Miami program. He said that on a national radio program.
Everyone has baggage, as long as they don't know where the bodies are buried. And I'm not as concerned about the other coaches in the division as you are. Ohio State will always be good, but Urban Meyer will probably be taking time off to deal with his chest pains soon enough, Harbaugh will be back in the NFL with the Colts and Franklin is a terrible game day coach
Ehh...doubt that, but we'll see. I see Meyer and Harbaugh staying for a long time. They want to beat each other badly.
Connections to HS mean crap if your a good recruiter and a name.
Nick Sabn could walk into any NJ High School and say I want you to play for me, and that kids would giggle like a girl at a One Direction concert. This NJ ties thing sometimes gets overplayed a little .
I also like Campbell and Moglia . Moglia would be great in transition until we can pay someone more as he is on the older side
Nick Sabn could walk into any NJ High School and say I want you to play for me, and that kids would giggle like a girl at a One Direction concert. This NJ ties thing sometimes gets overplayed a little .
I also like Campbell and Moglia . Moglia would be great in transition until we can pay someone more as he is on the older side
Goldens agent and mommy on their soapbox again. Sorry Johnny and mike. He sucks and only a fool an agent or a mommy would argue otherwise
Been there so I'll give you a pass on the typo but I can't give you a pass on Golden coaching poorly, squandering elite talent & losing because he didn't have support. The fly over planes started this year. As for his record at Temple, he was in a very weak conference & in 2009 his best year of 9-4 he lost to 1AA Villanova & beat no one. He didn't beat anyone in 2010 either.
Eh, close. In his 1st 3 years at Miami he was 6-6, 7-5 & 9-4. He was 6-7 in his 4th year all with elite talent. He squandered too much talent.
Well, in Miami, he beat #16 and #22, and just lost to #17 in his first year. He had Miami up to #7 in 2013..He struggled in his final 2 years, but played #2 Florida State very tough in 2014 and also just lost to them in 2015.
Think its worth a shot..
He got them to 7, then the wheels fell off for him. Got blown out by FSU and Louisville in the 2013 season plus 18 point losses to Virginia Tech and Duke. In 2014 they didn't really get blown out, but you play Florida State tough and then a week later you lose to a terrible Virginia team.
You might be right that he was a bad fit at Miami, but I'd like some examples of coaches who were better at their 3rd HC job then at their 2nd.
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