Hobbs permanent
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Here again is what I mean by double standard. There were detractors of JH because she had supposedly had no experience in football/basketball although she came from an athletic department built from the ground up.
Now we have hired a guy with no experience in football and who's 2 hires in basketball were bad but he's great suddenly. Why? Is a political appointment any better for the success of our AD than a supposed PC hire. He's had all of 2 years working as an AD at SHU a school without football. Nothing about his record screams a guy who can build us a top level AD.
Hopefully he's a good fundraiser as some say and he gets the Tower donation which is supposedly already on the table.
Be consistent in your judgments and reactions
Now we have hired a guy with no experience in football and who's 2 hires in basketball were bad but he's great suddenly. Why? Is a political appointment any better for the success of our AD than a supposed PC hire. He's had all of 2 years working as an AD at SHU a school without football. Nothing about his record screams a guy who can build us a top level AD.
Hopefully he's a good fundraiser as some say and he gets the Tower donation which is supposedly already on the table.
Be consistent in your judgments and reactions
"Strong credentials" - did not say long history as a major university AD
- but if these are not strong general credentials - don't know what is
Joined the Seton Hall University School of Law faculty in 1990
Appointed dean of the Seton Hall University School of Law in 1999
Served as associate dean of finance from 1996 to 1999.
Served as interim leader of Seton Hall University's Athletics Department 2009-11
Former Chair of the Newark, Commission on the Downtown Core Redevelopment, which led the way for the construction of the Prudential Center
Former co-chair of the American Bar Association Development Committee.
B.S. magna cum laude from Seton Hall University in 1982,
J.D. from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill in 1985
L.L.M. from New York University in 1988.
Oh and is generally viewed as having strong organizational & leadership skills
Correct, we need someone like this right now - unfortunately - and HOPEFULLY he'll hire the right people, around him, to negate his lack of experience in some areas. It's all about $$$ and getting the right people in the right places. We'll see, however, but for now I feel "okay" with this one.
He was hired as an ombudsman and to change e-mail policies after Bridgegate. Okay then.
We had 2 NJ guys who supposedly "knew NJ" and both were skewered by NJ politics and NJ media. That made a ton of difference.
He will unite factions. He will have donors giving. I have seen him work a room. He is regarded as a great person and a hard worker. He will not embarrass the University. He can handle the press. He will hire the right people to bolster areas where he is not strong. He has a self-deprecating sense of humor. He knows his limitations, and he is a no bullshit person. He is real. I like the fact that he is connected to NJ politics. So was Uncle Bob Mulcahy. That was a great period for us.
We just had 2 guys before JH that knew NJ politics and NJ media and were skewered by both. This isn't a road untraveled by us and it made no difference.
BTW I should add, as I said in the other thread. Go and get a Mark Richt if money isn't an issue and I'll be on board with him.
I thought Bobby Gonzo was the crazy one? Willard too? nah
PS- Eddie can't be feeling too comfy today
Today is like Baptism day in Godfather 2.
That's why this is a pretty good, but not great hire. If he was an interim hire for 6 months as originally reported, it would have been brilliant. RU AD needs someone with strong organizational and leadership skills right now to make a permanent fix in the AD. But, this is yet another AD hire with limited big-time AD experience at a P5 school.
Hopefully he, Barchi, Brown,and Schmidt are able to make the right football hire and we continue investing in and building up the Olympic sports.
Given the cesspool that is NJ - maybe hiring a lawyer who has political connections is not the worst decision - someone let me know what color tie he wears to the RU SHU MBB game.....
I would be very surprised if Hobbs is not a major success. I know Hobbs from Seton Hall Law School. He is a fundraising machine. He is smart, hard-working and very likable. He will do nothing to embarrass our University. He will make us proud.
He's not going to hire the FB coach - Greg Brown & Barchi, et. al. are the ones who're going to pick the HC
Permanent does not mean forever. It just means he can operate as AD to do what needs to be done without the interim tag. He probably learned from the time he was interim AD at SHU for 2 years that it limits his position. I doubt this is his lifetime goal. It also does not fit with his career and expertise. I fully expect that in 1 to 3 years it will be decided that he has finished his work and the department will be ready for an athletics guy to take over. Maybe it will be timed with Barchi's departure, maybe not. In the short term it is not a bad thing, at least if the new FB coach can run the FB program correctly and independently. The latter is the only good reason for rehiring GS that I can think of.
Almost all of us want things fixed in RU athletics. Some for different reasons and some in different ways, but almost everyone thinks it needs to be fixed. At least this is a start.
Almost all of us want things fixed in RU athletics. Some for different reasons and some in different ways, but almost everyone thinks it needs to be fixed. At least this is a start.
but is he particularly savvy and knowledgable about football ? that is what Rutgers needs
I agree, something is not adding up with Hobbs as a permanent AD. Sounds like NJ politics is in full swing. Everyone hold your nose.
I don't know about that. But look what he had to do at Seton Hall with basketball. He was involved in fund raising for athletics and for the Prudential Center. My opinion is that if he needs the help on football, he is not too proud or obstinate to ask for help. In all the years I have known him, he has held himself out to be personable, real, humble and self-deprecating. I was surprised when he was made Dean at SHLS, and he did an outstanding job at that.
Pernetti had a football background and who did he hire as the head coach?
Stop if you don't know what you are talking about. He's a Democrat. Here's a profile:
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/14/04/18/meet-christie-s-new-ombudsman
of our renowned Governor, Chris Christie.
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Meet Christie's New Ombudsman
Matt Katz | April 18, 2014
As part of the internal review into the scandals whirling around New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, lawyers recommended the governor hire an ombudsman. On Friday, Christie announced that he appointed Patrick Hobbs for the position.
Age: 54
Hometown: Basking Ridge
Party: Democrat
Experience:Seton Hall Law School Dean and chair of the state Commission on Investigation, which in recent years has been more focused on criminal issues than public corruption.
Salary: $75,000 for the part-time job. He is not resigning from his dean's position.
Relationship to Christie: They have known each other professionally for the last 15 years through Christie's involvement as an alumnus of Seton Hall Law. Hobbs said they have never socialized.
Connection to Christie World: Bill Baroni, who testified (falsely, it is now believed) that the bridge lanes were closed for a traffic study, has taught at Seton Hall Law. Hobbs said Baroni informed the school he would not teach this semester, given the scandal, but Hobbs didn't rule out the possibility that he could teach there in the future.
Hobbs' First Order of Business: Closing the political arm of Christie's Office of Intergovernmental Affairs, which Bridgegate witnesses Bill Stepien and Bridget Kelly ran. Documents indicate that employees of this office were involved in both wooing mayors so they'd endorse Christie and punishing mayors who didn't support him, on the taxpayer's dime.
How He'll Handle Whistle-blowers: "I'll be a resource where people can go" with concerns, he said, or if "they need guidance for established best practices."
Other Ethics Issues He'll Address: Top-level Christie officials will undergo ethics training, a chief ethics officer will be appointed, and a policy will be created on employees' use of personal email accounts for government work.
Good to hear. I hope he turns out be the one to put RU on the right path (actually that should read path to greatness).
He's connected to the people who control the purse strings in Trenton (in addition to the broader tri-state business community.)
I was skeptical at first myself. But after discussing with a few people, I have to say that this is the right hire at the right time.
And to be fair, people were evenly split about Julie's resume. What is not up for debate was how she got the job. Which brings me to point 2.
One of the most outspoken folks criticizing the process for Julie's hiring was Ken Schmidt. He is now one of three in the room driving the bus. There's a lesson in patience for those willing to see it.
I was skeptical at first myself. But after discussing with a few people, I have to say that this is the right hire at the right time.
And to be fair, people were evenly split about Julie's resume. What is not up for debate was how she got the job. Which brings me to point 2.
One of the most outspoken folks criticizing the process for Julie's hiring was Ken Schmidt. He is now one of three in the room driving the bus. There's a lesson in patience for those willing to see it.
Outside of the money for the parking garage plan with Lesniak I don't know that I want the purse string to be loosened that much from the state. The more you take the more you're beholden to them and can be used as a political football on their whims and fancies. Just keep them off our backs and out of our business and that's enough for me. If this guy is a good fundraiser then get the private money to get done what we need to get done. I'd rather not rely on much public money.
Very shortsighted
As I said, the key is to be the ones that manage the relationship, not vice versa.
Look at the best public universities in the country. They manage their state legislatures, not vice versa.
It doesn't matter to me what his political affiliation is and what he did during bridge-gate. It reeks of political patronage in one form or another. If an independent survey was taken of a choice of potential AD's, how many here would have guessed Hobbs? He has limited experience and I'm being PC. I believe he cut several sports at SH. We could have done profoundly better. Trust me, Barchi made a bad choice. An interim AD fine, permanent AD bad move. I truly hope that a little more transparency will be exercised in picking our head coach.
Not sure what I think if this hire yet. Will be interested in hearing what he has to say and what his priorities as he settles in.
I've seen you say he's a very good fundraiser. You got any numbers specifically comparison of what SHU raised before him and what they raised during his time there. I'd like to see just how good he is. I haven't really bothered to look it up.
Taking too much money from the state for athletics opens up pandora's box. Even if you think this guy can keep it closed, of which I'm not certain, who knows if the next guy and beyond can do the same. They will use it as a political football at their whims and fancies. These are guys that tried a power play on the BOG and tried to take parts of the university. Do you really think you can keep them at bay indefinitely the more you take from them? For academics I get it, for athletics stay away. The projects we want to get done need to come from a combination for private money (in the 10s of millions) and athletic revenue bonds. Avoid state money for the most part when it comes to athletic projects.
I could only find this:
"Launched and completed the Seton Hall Law Rising Campaign, the largest and most successful fundraising campaign in the history of the law school, raising over $25 million between 2007 and 2011."
That is fairly significant, considering the law industry was in a major slump during this time. SHLS graduates about 200-250 graduates per year. If you read his bio, he did some remarkable things while Dean. Applications to law schools cratered nationwide.
On Athletics, I can't find the details. But he negotiated a deal for the men's basketball team to play at the Prudential Center,
As Hud said, you need to manage it. Every state U worth their salt is taking more money from the state than Rutgers is. If the University of Michigan can do it, Rutgers can do it. If we don't we will fail wholly and completely.
You can't have a state university not funded by the state on every level.
