Horrific NIL Numbers

[BOGDANOVICH]

For anyone who does not know how badly behind Rutgers is in NIL and athletic revenue and general support, go to nil-ncaa.com/big10. Rutgers has the worst numbers by far of all the B10 schools,along with Maryland. Eye opening information. For example,Indiana has three times the estimated NIL money that Rutgers has,and the other schools have four to six times the amount of money. Ohio State has a $20 million fund, Maryland and Rutgers barely have over $3 million each. The average for B10 schools is about $10 million. Same goes for revenue and other contributions. Rutgers is so far behind that it may well be insurmountable.

 

[RU_Goo]

Yes , NIL is the reason we gave up a 4th and 13 40 yard catch and run to lose

 

[RUAldo]

NIL would not have stopped the worst TO in RU history…the game was won - it would have taken a miracle for that ball to conquer the distance and wind. Greg lost this game on a coaching blunder plain and simple.

 

[Zimm80]

For anyone who does not know how badly behind Rutgers is in NIL and athletic revenue and general support, go to nil-ncaa.com/big ten. Rutgers has the worst numbers by far of all the B10 schools,along with Maryland. Eye opening information. We all knew it was bad, but this bad?

Between very little NIL money & a coach that never deserved a extension and is not a good decision maker on game day & his coaching philosophy has come & gone we are doomed.

 

[gmay8]

Coach Schiano should give 1/12 of his salary this year to the NIL fund cuz he sure as hell crapped today’s game down the toilet. Fans want winners. If coach single handily blows the game why would I contribute to NIL. The coach should write the check

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

And now we know why GS keeps saying we're a developmental program.

Many of us knew NIL would create a farm system for the "haves".

 

[rufan4ever]

Coach Schiano should give 1/12 of his salary this year to the NIL fund cuz he sure as hell crapped today’s game down the toilet. Fans want winners. If coach single handily blows the game why would I contribute to NIL. The coach should write the check

I suggested the same here a few weeks ago and was laughed at.
Schiano can certainly live on 3 million annually.
3 million to NIL can definitely help.

 

[RUforlife]

NIL $s are important, but not nearly as important as building a new Fieldhouse. I always hear from a knowledgeable poster on this site that we lose a lot of recruits because we don't have a new Fieldhouse.

 

[rutgersguy1]

UCF Emerges as First Power Four School to Eliminate NIL Collective Program

Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) has taken hold of college athletes, providing a means for financial stability for student-athletes. In a recent shift, the Univ

www.si.com

 

[Rhuarc]

For anyone who does not know how badly behind Rutgers is in NIL and athletic revenue and general support, go to nil-ncaa.com/big10. Rutgers has the worst numbers by far of all the B10 schools,along with Maryland. Eye opening information. For example,Indiana has three times the estimated NIL money that Rutgers has,and the other schools have four to six times the amount of money. Ohio State has a $20 million fund, Maryland and Rutgers barely have over $3 million each. The average for B10 schools is about $10 million. Same goes for revenue and other contributions. Rutgers is so far behind that it may well be insurmountable.

We have literally been talking about this for the last month. Where have you been?

 

[RUnTeX]

We have literally been talking about this for the last month. Where have you been?

I read the OP and was expecting to see the Man Lands on the Moon spoof in this thread by now.

 

[rutgersguy1]

I don't know that those are verified NIL numbers and not the actual NCAA website. I've said before it's all opaque and no one really knows what anyone has and they don't allow it to be published either. It's also not all money and we don't know how it's booked if it's an in kind transaction where you don't get to keep the actual compensation.

Next year when schools pay players NIL and have up to a low 20M+ cap then I think you'll see what everyone is spending as I'm guessing that will actually be public info like coaching contracts etc.. There will be some NIL outside of that though which will still be opaque but some schools may shut those down like mentioned UCF is doing in the article above.

 

[ru66]

I don't know that those are verified NIL numbers and not the actual NCAA website. I've said before it's all opaque and no one really knows what anyone has and they don't allow it to be published either. It's also not all money and we don't know how it's booked if it's an in kind transaction where you don't get to keep the actual compensation.

Next year when schools pay players NIL and have up to a low 20M+ cap then I think you'll see what everyone is spending as I'm guessing that will actually be public info like coaching contracts etc.. There will be some NIL outside of that though which will still be opaque but some schools may shut those down like mentioned UCF is doing in the article above.

It appears not to be official ncaa information but stuff developed by a cpa who put together some sort of website scholarshipstats.com.

 

[rutgersguy1]

It appears not to be official ncaa information but stuff developed by a cpa who put together some sort of website scholarshipstats.com.

I figured it was just an interested fan compiling numbers. Budgets, revenues, expenses of an AD is all publicly available info and verified but NIL is nothing like that and is opaque, hearsay, secretive and unverified. No way to know what's what for sure.

When NIL gets brought in house next year and schools can pay player then I think we should have a better idea with the assumption that that info will be publicly available. There will still be NIL outside of that which is opaque but at least the 20M+ cap part of school generated NIL should be transparent...hopefully.

 

[King of S]

For anyone who does not know how badly behind Rutgers is in NIL and athletic revenue and general support, go to nil-ncaa.com/big10. Rutgers has the worst numbers by far of all the B10 schools,along with Maryland. Eye opening information. For example,Indiana has three times the estimated NIL money that Rutgers has,and the other schools have four to six times the amount of money. Ohio State has a $20 million fund, Maryland and Rutgers barely have over $3 million each. The average for B10 schools is about $10 million. Same goes for revenue and other contributions. Rutgers is so far behind that it may well be insurmountable.

Need to put a cap on NIL’s like professional leagues do with salary caps.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Need to put a cap on NIL’s like professional leagues do with salary caps.

The ones coming from schools next year, assuming the settlement is approved which is expected, will have a cap a little over 20M+ for next year.

The stuff outside of that won’t and probably can’t because courts wouldn’t allow it. I think that self regulates based on return.

It’s unlimited now but you don’t see super teams out there. Talent is spread around more than before. Schools being able to pay players might even increase the spread of talent a little more than now. Playing time is finite and always a carrot but now a school that isn’t as well resourced will have playing time and some money to offer that they didn’t have before. Schools in the P2 with larger revenue streams can have a potential leg up in that regard.

 

[JayDogSmooth]

As I’ve said, countless times, barring somebody big stepping up to give an initial upfront lump sum, this is going to have to be facilitated by the corporations in the tri-state area

My biggest qualm with Hubbs is that he dropped the ball in regard to NIL and getting it facilitated, and although he did hire an agency to go after those big corporations, we are already behind the eight ball in regard to fundraising versus our peers

 

[LotusAggressor]

And now we know why GS keeps saying we're a developmental program.

Many of us knew NIL would create a farm system for the "haves".

Combined with the transfer portal, that's exactly what has happened.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Pretty sure giving up 4th and 13 can be attributed to the caliber of our defense post injuries especially. Yes that is NIL related.

 

[APKnight]

I wonder if NIL donations nationwide cause academic donations to decrease.

 

[Tango Two]

NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Collectives – Big Ten Schools​

NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Collectives – Big Ten Schools – NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Estimates 2025

nil-ncaa.com

 

[jtung230]

Is this the official NIL store?

The Rutgers NIL Store

Official NIL Licensed Apparel Store. Providing Athletes With Industry Leading Payouts.

rutgers.nil.store

 

[R1766U]

This is why the end is near for us.

Unless something miraculous happens, we are doomed.

 

[retired711]

Everyone needs to understand how the NIL landscape will be changed by the House v. NCAA settlement. Each school will be allowed to pay its athletes a total of $22 million annually. Athletes will be free to have NIL deals with outsiders in addition to that. But NIL deals between athletes and groups "'of entities and individuals closely affiliated with the schools, such as collectives" will be allowed *only* if they "serve a 'valid business purpose' as opposed to being merely pay-for-play schemes disguised as NIL agreements." The quotes are from the link. Note that there is no resolution of whether players can unionize or of whether and how Title IX applies. https://www.bradley.com/insights/pu...d-bring-significant-changes-to-college-sports

 

[noble106]

Everyone needs to understand how the NIL landscape will be changed by the House v. NCAA settlement. Each school will be allowed to pay its athletes a total of $22 million annually. Athletes will be free to have NIL deals with outsiders in addition to that. But NIL deals between athletes and groups "'of entities and individuals closely affiliated with the schools, such as collectives" will be allowed *only* if they "serve a 'valid business purpose' as opposed to being merely pay-for-play schemes disguised as NIL agreements." The quotes are from the link. Note that there is no resolution of whether players can unionize or of whether and how Title IX applies. https://www.bradley.com/insights/pu...d-bring-significant-changes-to-college-sports

Ok. Aren't donors going to pay athletes and programs under the table though? I thought it was a dirty secret in the industry that kids got paid to go to Bama, Georgia, OSU, Clemson, etc. before NIL was a thing.

 

[Miramar-RU]

Is this the official NIL store?

The Rutgers NIL Store

Official NIL Licensed Apparel Store. Providing Athletes With Industry Leading Payouts.

rutgers.nil.store

I have the same question. Also, are NIL contributions considered charitable/deductible?

Finally, I assume Fieldhouse funds have to go direct to the sports program or can NIL funds go towards that (or be allocated as such). Thanks.

 

[retired711]

Ok. Aren't donors going to pay athletes and programs under the table though? I thought it was a dirty secret in the industry that kids got paid to go to Bama, Georgia, OSU, Clemson, etc. before NIL was a thing.

Oh, I'm sure that will go on as much as it did before NIL came along. But at least donors won't be able to disguise payments as NIL unless they serve "a valid business purpose." Note that the IRS can get involved if a donor with a business tries to deduct an NIL payment that isn't really business-related

 

[retired711]

I have the same question. Also, are NIL contributions considered charitable/deductible?

Only if they are contributions to collectives that are organized as 501(c)(3) charitable organizations. Some, like Rutgers', are: many are not. But the collectives are going to have much less importance under the House settlement.

 

[Plum Street]

I think this board should have a fund to buy mega millions and powerball tickets. Winnings get split 50 percent to us and 50 percent to NIL

 

[Fat Koko]

These figures came up last month and my take is here. The NIL numbers are estimated using the formula: NIL = 16.4% * (ticket sales + donations).

The biggest problem is Rutgers football can't sell tickets or get donations like the rest of the B1G. Here are the 2023 football ticket sales and donations.

1 Ohio State $131,191,670
2 Michigan $107,797,710
3 Nebraska $99,013,650
4 Penn State $88,700,984
5 Wisconsin $84,598,378
6 Iowa $72,550,274
7 Michigan State $72,440,638
8 Washington $66,299,901
9 Oregon $64,694,038
10 Illinois $54,905,001
11 Minnesota $46,304,695
12 Indiana $44,093,470
13 Purdue $41,399,757
14 UCLA $35,797,708
15 Maryland $22,347,505
16 Rutgers $20,968,792

Source: NCAA Membership Financial Report System

 

[RUskoolie]

These figures came up last month and my take is here. The NIL numbers are estimated using the formula: NIL = 16.4% * (ticket sales + donations).

The biggest problem is Rutgers football can't sell tickets or get donations like the rest of the B1G. Here are the 2023 football ticket sales and donations.

1 Ohio State $131,191,670
2 Michigan $107,797,710
3 Nebraska $99,013,650
4 Penn State $88,700,984
5 Wisconsin $84,598,378
6 Iowa $72,550,274
7 Michigan State $72,440,638
8 Washington $66,299,901
9 Oregon $64,694,038
10 Illinois $54,905,001
11 Minnesota $46,304,695
12 Indiana $44,093,470
13 Purdue $41,399,757
14 UCLA $35,797,708
15 Maryland $22,347,505
16 Rutgers $20,968,792

Source: NCAA Membership Financial Report System

Same drum I have been banging. This is a fan base with a Walmart budget shopping for luxury.

 

[retired711]

These figures came up last month and my take is here. The NIL numbers are estimated using the formula: NIL = 16.4% * (ticket sales + donations).

The biggest problem is Rutgers football can't sell tickets or get donations like the rest of the B1G. Here are the 2023 football ticket sales and donations.

1 Ohio State $131,191,670
2 Michigan $107,797,710
3 Nebraska $99,013,650
4 Penn State $88,700,984
5 Wisconsin $84,598,378
6 Iowa $72,550,274
7 Michigan State $72,440,638
8 Washington $66,299,901
9 Oregon $64,694,038
10 Illinois $54,905,001
11 Minnesota $46,304,695
12 Indiana $44,093,470
13 Purdue $41,399,757
14 UCLA $35,797,708
15 Maryland $22,347,505
16 Rutgers $20,968,792

Source: NCAA Membership Financial Report System

Neither USC nor Northwestern is on this list.

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

Neither USC nor Northwestern is on this list.

Private schools don't have to disclose numbers

 

[rutgersguy1]

 

[365Poster24Seven]

Pretty sure giving up 4th and 13 can be attributed to the caliber of our defense post injuries especially. Yes that is NIL related.

He is right. The team has been decimated with injuries. The fanbase doesn’t want to hear it because the last thing most of the fanbase want to do is part with a couple dollars. It’s easier to just complain about the Head Coach.

 

[365Poster24Seven]

Same drum I have been banging. This is a fan base with a Walmart budget shopping for luxury.

This is 10000% correct.

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

He is right. The team has been decimated with injuries. The fanbase doesn’t want to hear it because the last thing most of the fanbase want to do is part with a couple dollars. It’s easier to just complain about the Head Coach.

Agree

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

This is 10000% correct.

Also, unfortuantely agree again

 

[Eurocat]

These figures came up last month and my take is here. The NIL numbers are estimated using the formula: NIL = 16.4% * (ticket sales + donations).

The biggest problem is Rutgers football can't sell tickets or get donations like the rest of the B1G. Here are the 2023 football ticket sales and donations.

1 Ohio State $131,191,670
2 Michigan $107,797,710
3 Nebraska $99,013,650
4 Penn State $88,700,984
5 Wisconsin $84,598,378
6 Iowa $72,550,274
7 Michigan State $72,440,638
8 Washington $66,299,901
9 Oregon $64,694,038
10 Illinois $54,905,001
11 Minnesota $46,304,695
12 Indiana $44,093,470
13 Purdue $41,399,757
14 UCLA $35,797,708
15 Maryland $22,347,505
16 Rutgers $20,968,792

Source: NCAA Membership Financial Report System

Where is Northwestern?

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

Where is Northwestern?

Evanston, IL