Pike has changed your expectation for this program. Schiano did the same thing. And look what it took for us to beg to get Greg back. Sheesh.
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Pike has changed your expectation for this program. Schiano did the same thing. And look what it took for us to beg to get Greg back. Sheesh.
Sorry, but you are so far off, its laughable to say he is in the top 3-4.You may wanna peep the contracts lol. Pikes median salary over the remainder of his contract is like $3.1 million. Top 3-4 in B1G. Close to top 15 nationally
Lol. Look at pikes contract and then compare with others. Youre really far offer. Pike has 5 years left on his contract worth $16.1 million aka an average of $3.22 million a year. Now look around the country and you can count probably on your hands and MAYBE toes how many coaches in america wouldnt come here for that type of money. At $3.22/mill/yr over the next 5 years steven pikiell is one of the highest paid coaches in the conference. Not my opinion, but rather a cold hard factSorry, but you are so far off, its laughable to say he is in the top 3-4.
Where are you even getting that from? I actually have a source.
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What source do you have, putting him above 3 million and in the top 3-4?
I love Pike but I trhink the team would be enhanced going forward by putting @kyk1827 into the role of a special assistant. As far back as I can remember, he was calling out the staff for its lack of flow on offense, and Kyk would probably be first in line if it meant replacing Steve Hayn (see, i do read all your post Kyk)
this post is nuts
But it’s in bold so it has to be important, right?🙄Delete thread
no one can deny he has improved the status of Rutgers basketball. That being said the team has regressed, they no longer give
100% every game, they are stale on offense, the recruiting this year was not that of a top 25 team, and, most importantly there is no
plan forward.
No way.
bad thread Numbers
This isn't Numbers. It's someone else.
I have my disagreements with him on this board, but he didn't start this thread, no need to call him out.
That would be 3 things... Someone had to...😂Two things
1) hes getting two more years minimum
2) hes not getting poached because we pay him an absurd amount of money, way more than hes worth
3) like it or not we are stuck with him
Hahaha you are correct, i am an idiotThat would be 3 things... Someone had to...😂
Insanityno one can deny he has improved the status of Rutgers basketball. That being said the team has regressed, they no longer give
100% every game, they are stale on offense, the recruiting this year was not that of a top 25 team, and, most importantly there is no
plan forward.
Probably this is close to it . Maybe a little better in the best of years - which would be a 4 or 5 seed ncaa team that makes the big ten semifinal. He has done a great job here but, the ceiling is the ceiling . It took him what 7 years to get stony brook to win that league and I think 3 of this years he had the best player in the league by far in Warney . He’s never going to have the best player in the BIG .real question .
What do you think Pikes Ceiling is as a B10 head coach?
He needs to improve his in game coaching and substitutions.Hes a solid program builder,but after that where does he top off at compared to other current B10 HCs?
Lol. Look at pikes contract and then compare with others. Youre really far offer. Pike has 5 years left on his contract worth $16.1 million aka an average of $3.22 million a year. Now look around the country and you can count probably on your hands and MAYBE toes how many coaches in america wouldnt come here for that type of money. At $3.22/mill/yr over the next 5 years steven pikiell is one of the highest paid coaches in the conference. Not my opinion, but rather a cold hard fact
source:
Steve Pikiell contract extension sends clear message on Rutgers’ commitment to basketball
Stability is key to building a long term winner and this move brings just that to a program not accustomed to having it.www.google.com
Troll post. Probably one of 100 aliases Novafan NCAABallz has.no one can deny he has improved the status of Rutgers basketball. That being said the team has regressed, they no longer give
100% every game, they are stale on offense, the recruiting this year was not that of a top 25 team, and, most importantly there is no
plan forward.
LOL. Again, youre basing it off 7 years and saying pike makes 2.85/yr. Im saying based on his new contracts average annual salary he is one of the highest paid coaches in the conference, 3rd actually. He is in essence has a 5 year $16.1 mill contract remaining. How many coaches in the conference can say that? Ill wait.You're kidding, right? You either suck at math, or you conveniently left off the first two years of Pike's 7 year contract extension to make it look like he earns more than he does.
Nice try, but that is some real Bullsh**.
The link you provided even shows Pike signed a 7-year, 20 million dollar contract. That averages out to $2.85 million a year......which puts him at or near the bottom.
Pike's contract extension:
2019-20: $1.7 million
2020-21: $2.2 million
2021-22: $2.6 million
2022-23: $3 million
2023-24: $3.25 million
2024-25: $3.5 million
2025-26: $3.75 million
That's $2,857,142 per year over 7 years....not the $3.22 million a year you wrongly cited.
So you are off by 363K PER YEAR. Yikes. Math much?
And I did take a look at Big Ten annual salaries.
Just as I said, Pike is third from the lowest.
Annual salaries - highest to lowest
Tom Izzo, Michigan State $4.1 million
Archie Miller, Indiana $3.3 million
Matt Painter, Purdue $3.025 million
Mark Turgeon, Maryland $3.011 million
Chris Holtmann, Ohio State $3 million
Brad Underwood, Illinois $2.95 million
Fran McCaffrey, Iowa $2.72 million
Chris Collins, Northwestern $2.6 million
Fred Hoiberg, Nebraska $2.5 million
Richard Pitino, Minnesota $2.46 million
Greg Gard, Wisconsin $2.45 million
Steve Pikiell, Rutgers $2.2 million
Juwan Howard, Michigan $2.1 million
Pat Chambers, Penn State (not public - under $1.5 million)
That's 12th lowest this year in the Big Ten, only ahead of PSU's Chambers (who resigned, so that figure will be going way up when they hire a new coach, and Michigan's Howard, who earned 2.1 million this year as part of his 5 year, 11 million deal. That will be ripped up and DOUBLED as soon as this season is over.)
Men's Basketball Head Coach Salaries - USA TODAY
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I'll take your apology now.
You're kidding, right? You either suck at math, or you conveniently left off the first two years of Pike's 7 year contract extension to make it look like he earns more than he does.
Nice try, but that is some real Bullsh**.
The link you provided even shows Pike signed a 7-year, 20 million dollar contract. That averages out to $2.85 million a year......which puts him at or near the bottom.
Pike's contract extension:
2019-20: $1.7 million
2020-21: $2.2 million
2021-22: $2.6 million
2022-23: $3 million
2023-24: $3.25 million
2024-25: $3.5 million
2025-26: $3.75 million
That's $2,857,142 per year over 7 years....not the $3.22 million a year you wrongly cited.
So you are off by 363K PER YEAR. Yikes. Math much?
And I did take a look at Big Ten annual salaries.
Just as I said, Pike is third from the lowest.
Annual salaries - highest to lowest
Tom Izzo, Michigan State $4.1 million
Archie Miller, Indiana $3.3 million
Matt Painter, Purdue $3.025 million
Mark Turgeon, Maryland $3.011 million
Chris Holtmann, Ohio State $3 million
Brad Underwood, Illinois $2.95 million
Fran McCaffrey, Iowa $2.72 million
Chris Collins, Northwestern $2.6 million
Fred Hoiberg, Nebraska $2.5 million
Richard Pitino, Minnesota $2.46 million
Greg Gard, Wisconsin $2.45 million
Steve Pikiell, Rutgers $2.2 million
Juwan Howard, Michigan $2.1 million
Pat Chambers, Penn State (not public - under $1.5 million)
That's 12th lowest this year in the Big Ten, only ahead of PSU's Chambers (who resigned, so that figure will be going way up when they hire a new coach, and Michigan's Howard, who earned 2.1 million this year as part of his 5 year, 11 million deal. That will be ripped up and DOUBLED as soon as this season is over.)
Men's Basketball Head Coach Salaries - USA TODAY
Ever wondered who the highest paid coach in men's basketball is? Find out today with USA TODAY's complete salary data.sports.usatoday.com
I'll take your apology now.
First time I have ever agreed with something you posted!!!Hahaha you are correct, i am an idiot
You seem a little slow, so I’ll help you out! In 2020, RU tore up Pike’s old contract and replaced it with a new 7 year deal starting in 2020 with the final year being 2025-26. We are currently in year 2 of that new deal.LOL. Again, youre basing it off 7 years and saying pike makes 2.85/yr. Im saying based on his new contracts average annual salary he is one of the highest paid coaches in the conference, 3rd actually. He is in essence has a 5 year $16.1 mill contract remaining. How many coaches in the conference can say that? Ill wait.
Idk how youre trying to steer this but youre wrong hunny
That 3.2 million over 5 years is what he may have left on his 7 year deal, but a contract’s average is based on the entire contract, not just the remaining years.Prior contract years have zero impact on future contracts.
Pike has 5 years at 3.2m left based on your numbers.
Any team looking to “poach” him needs to start at 3.2m/year.
Not sure how his remaining contract compares to other remaining contracts but any new contract starts at 3.2m and not 2.8m.
Pair up in threesHahaha you are correct, i am an idiot
Exactly, how can we go from 30 minutes of lights out basketball against Indiana, and then lay a massive egg against Nebraska? Something isn’t adding up but Pike still has my confidence to keep this March towards relevance alive. Anyone here up for another Eddie Jordan experiment?I don’t care who does it, just figure out the offense. Every other game we look like a team that have never played basketball before. Even the Indiana game, we played like crap the first 10 minutes
Wait but didnt u say hes making $2.1/yr? Because your $2.85 figure makes him what 5th or 6th highest? Remember 5 years is an average contract length. He has 5 years left at $16.1, that contract could land alotttttt of quality coachesYou seem a little slow, so I’ll help you out! In 2020, RU tore up Pike’s old contract and replaced it with a new 7 year deal starting in 2020 with the final year being 2025-26. We are currently in year 2 of that new deal.
With me so far?
If you average out the seven year, $20 million contract which began last year, that average works out to be $2.85 million a year running through 2025.
You are the one disregarding the first two years of his new contract, which moronically includes this season.... to prove your point that he makes over 3.2 million a year! The average of a contract starts from the first year and runs through the final year you can’t just selectively begin in the middle of that contract to say that’s what he is averaging.
I am 100% right here honey. You’re 100% wrong!
If I wanted to play cute with the figures I can base my argument off just the first five years of the contract, rather than the final 5 years like you did....and Pike would come in making even less, but that’s dishonest.
You need to be cute with the numbers in order to be right when I can just use the actual numbers to be right.
I did say that. He is making $2.1 this year in year 2. The $2.85 figure is the AVERAGE over 7 years!Wait but didnt u say hes making $2.1/yr? Because your $2.85 figure makes him what 5th or 6th highest? Remember 5 years is an average contract length. He has 5 years left at $16.1, that contract could land alotttttt of quality coaches
We're not talking about prior years of a prior contract, we're talking about the current contract.I'm not even sure what you both are arguing over but this is why college fans shouldn't talk contracts and value - a pro sport thing.
When discussing value - nobody cares about prior years.
All that matters when evaluating a players (or coaches) value:
1. Current year salary
2. Future years salary (AAV - average annual value)
3. Where the AAV ranks against peers.
It appears Pike is about appropriately paid to very slightly overpaid in future years.
However, contracts are always increasing so within a year or two he'll probably be underpaid again.
If we went after anyone but knight it's a poor decisionRealistically, if he resigned, we'd be in good positions to land someone better. Wouldn't have a buyout and team is a good place. Next coach could possibly get us over the hump.
It isn't happening anyway so whatever. But some of you are so content with mediocrity it's ridiculous. Again, no wonder the school is so mediocre with athletics. We almost hired Lance Leipold to coach football for christs sake. Until RU fans and donors, and the damn governor finally stood up for something.
I'm not saying Pike hasn't done well here, but the bar is so damn low. Fact is, this team is off in some regard, and should be playing better at this stage of development. Not bringing transfers in, not coaching any offense, not even having the guys up to play defense most of the year is a red flag.
I'm not saying fire him or he sucks or whatever, but the question was a hypothetical. At what point do we grow tired of just making the tourney and want to take the next step?
If we went after anyone but knight it's a poor decision
**** off, respectfullyno one can deny he has improved the status of Rutgers basketball. That being said the team has regressed, they no longer give
100% every game, they are stale on offense, the recruiting this year was not that of a top 25 team, and, most importantly there is no
plan forward.
Pike has changed your expectation for this program. Schiano did the same thing. And look what it took for us to beg to get Greg back. Sheesh.
We have too many trolls and really stupid people on this board.And just like during Schiano 1.0, when he hadn’t won the natty by year 8 people were calling for a new coach.
Were the worst.