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I'm sold on Dino Babers ..

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At halftime in the BGSU-Ohio game, Coach Babers said that the coaching staff will have to take a look at film and "make some adjustments." It's so refreshing to hear a coach admit that adjustments need to be made.
 
He's a hair behind Doug Meacham/Dave Aranda for me and the only thing that holds me back on him is the ability to deliver a mediocre defense. You can have a powerful spread offense, which is my preferred offense, but if you don't have that mediocre (top 50-65) defense then eventually it catches up to you or you become Indiana.

He inherited a top 15 or so defense from Clawson and last year it was in the 100s in scoring/total. This year slightly better in the 70s/80s as of now. I did find out recently that he changed his DC from last year so credit for trying to improve it and it has improved a little from last year just looking at the rankings but only being his 2nd year as HC and the first year for his new DC hard to know how much of a trend it is.
 
He's a hair behind Doug Meacham/Dave Aranda for me and the only thing that holds me back on him is the ability to deliver a mediocre defense. You can have a powerful spread offense, which is my preferred offense, but if you don't have that mediocre (top 50-65) defense then eventually it catches up to you or you become Indiana.

He inherited a top 15 or so defense from Clawson and last year it was in the 100s in scoring/total. This year slightly better in the 70s/80s as of now. I did find out recently that he changed his DC from last year so credit for trying to improve it and it has improved a little from last year just looking at the rankings but only being his 2nd year as HC and the first year for his new DC hard to know how much of a trend it is.
He's a west coast guy. With his offense, I see him going Big XII: Iowa State.
 
He's a west coast guy. With his offense, I see him going Big XII: Iowa State.
I think he's a guy who would go anywhere. He's spent most of his time in the west but now he's in the midwest. Unlike some other coaches, I get the feel he's a guy who'll go where his career takes him. He also adapted the offense to take more snaps under center to deal with the colder weather, although haven't seen so much of that tonight.

You know thinking about it Mike Elko, the former Bowling Green DC, might be a good name for him as DC if he ever came here. He's a NJ guy and did a nice job with BGs defense when he was there and so far a solid job with WF's defense ranked in the 30s/40s. Even saw a quote from Jimbo Fisher in 2014 saying WF defense was the best he played all year and that was a game they won 43-3 lol. He's been with Clawson for awhile though so not sure if he'd come. Regardless, hook Babers up with a good DC and I'd put him on the top of my "realistic" list rather than just a hair behind the others I mentioned. I don't count Fuente/Herman because I think they're likely out of reach now.

http://www.campusrush.com/bowling-green-dino-babers-1397049411.html
 
For those who remember.....GS turned down Matt Johnson, in favor of Mike Bimonte, six years ago. Oooops.
 
For those who remember.....GS turned down Matt Johnson, in favor of Mike Bimonte, six years ago. Oooops.

Not possible. GS is the greatest recruiter in the history of mankind. Just ask his loyal 8 followers on this board.

Before i get killed i know GS would be better than what we have! relax!
 
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At halftime in the BGSU-Ohio game, Coach Babers said that the coaching staff will have to take a look at film and "make some adjustments." It's so refreshing to hear a coach admit that adjustments need to be made.
The thing about his halftime comments, was he and his staff had already identified what Ohio was doing differently. He said something to the effect that they had to get the chalk and make adjustments. Watching the second half, it looks like the adjustments worked very well.

This might be a normal thing at other schools but as a Rutgers fan it was kind of weird to see a coach identify a problem, make adjustments, and actually have the team execute. The other amazing thing is that they were winning 34-14 at halftime, yet they still made adjustments and executed...that's what good coaches and we'll coached teams do.
 
I've have spoken about and been shouted down about Dino since before he got the Bowling Green job. He can coach but what's even better is he doesn't interview well. bigger money schools will hold that against him and allowing him to fall into our lap. Lol
 
I've have spoken about and been shouted down about Dino since before he got the Bowling Green job. He can coach but what's even better is he doesn't interview well. bigger money schools will hold that against him and allowing him to fall into our lap. Lol
It would have been way too early to jump on him before he got a MAC job. He wouldn't have had enough time to tell much about him. Now we've seen him do it with 2 qbs in Garrapolo and Johnson and he's still cranking out the high powered offense. Even now though as I said above, still need to see that mediocre defense. Can he deliver it? Hard to know. Hook him up with a good DC then I'll take him. Maybe a Mike Elko WF DC, Phil Snow Temple DC, Don Brown BC DC.
 
The thing about his halftime comments, was he and his staff had already identified what Ohio was doing differently. He said something to the effect that they had to get the chalk and make adjustments. Watching the second half, it looks like the adjustments worked very well.

This might be a normal thing at other schools but as a Rutgers fan it was kind of weird to see a coach identify a problem, make adjustments, and actually have the team execute. The other amazing thing is that they were winning 34-14 at halftime, yet they still made adjustments and executed...that's what good coaches and we'll coached teams do.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in our locker room at halftime of games like OSU and Wisconsin where we are getting throttled. "This doesn't look like a team that wants to go 1-0 this week" is what I picture Flood yelling at the players.
 
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It would have been way too early to jump on him before he got a MAC job. He wouldn't have had enough time to tell much about him. Now we've seen him do it with 2 qbs in Garrapolo and Johnson and he's still cranking out the high powered offense. Even now though as I said above, still need to see that mediocre defense. Can he deliver it? Hard to know. Hook him up with a good DC then I'll take him. Maybe a Mike Elko WF DC, Phil Snow Temple DC, Don Brown BC DC.
I wasn't pumping him up as an RU coach while at a eastern Illinois....was simply saying he was up and coming having watched them play.
 
Not knowledgeable about football as many of you are. Wondering how a Babers offense would do against top tier B1G defenses?
 
I'm worried that this fan base is so anxious to get rid of Flood that they'll keep lowering the bar until absolutely anybody off the street could roll over it while falling off their couch.

"Willingness to make adjustments" isn't exactly the most shining resume statement. Yeah, I get where OP is coming from, but...
 
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Not knowledgeable about football as many of you are. Wondering how a Babers offense would do against top tier B1G defenses?
Might turn out like a NFL team running the triple option offense?
 
Dino Babers would be my top available choice, assuming you cannot get Fuente or Herman. Guy can coach.
 
I'm worried that this fan base is so anxious to get rid of Flood that they'll keep lowering the bar until absolutely anybody off the street could roll over it while falling off their couch.

"Willingness to make adjustments" isn't exactly the most shining resume statement. Yeah, I get where OP is coming from, but...
Give me a call when our bar gets lowered so far that we're ready to offer the job to a nearly-fired OL coach.
 
Not knowledgeable about football as many of you are. Wondering how a Babers offense would do against top tier B1G defenses?
Well, with Bowling Green talent he had the following performances earlier this year:
vs Tenn (neutral site I think) 124 rushing, 433 passing, 557 total yards, 6.55 yards/play and 30 points
@ Maryland 201 rushing, 491 passing, 692 total yards, 6.59 yards/play, 48 points
vs Memphis 136 rushing, 443 passing, 579 total yards, 7.82 yards/play, 41 points
@ Purdue 137 rushing, 402 passing, 539 total yards, 5.86 yards/play, 35 points

While not against great defenses in these examples, his scheme puts yards and points against more talented teams.
 
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I'm worried that this fan base is so anxious to get rid of Flood that they'll keep lowering the bar until absolutely anybody off the street could roll over it while falling off their couch.

"Willingness to make adjustments" isn't exactly the most shining resume statement. Yeah, I get where OP is coming from, but...
Talking about lowering the bar, it was subterranean when Fluud was hired. I don't know if you watched the game but they spent alot of time talking about Babers' resume and the coaches he's worked with...his resume alone puts Fluud to shame.

Alot of folks are saying that some MAC headcoaches and coordinators, without HC experience, may not be qualified to coach here, (yet ). The irony is any of those guys have far better resumes than Fludd had when he was hired.
 
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quick scoring spread offense do put a lot of pressure on defenses.. including their own.

1) their D has to go against their O all week

How can you put together a D that cna challenge your own oddball offense AND stop more traditional offenses?

2) Since these spread Os rarely win time of possession, that means their D will be on the field most of the game

High number of reps will stress Ds in conditioning and injuries and normal wear and tear.

So, I would expect the D of any of these offenses to look worse than they probably are under better conditions.
 
quick scoring spread offense do put a lot of pressure on defenses.. including their own.

1) their D has to go against their O all week

How can you put together a D that cna challenge your own oddball offense AND stop more traditional offenses?

2) Since these spread Os rarely win time of possession, that means their D will be on the field most of the game

High number of reps will stress Ds in conditioning and injuries and normal wear and tear.

So, I would expect the D of any of these offenses to look worse than they probably are under better conditions.
I agree and have said so. It's a byproduct of using an uptempo offense and usually, not always, the defense will be weaker. Ideal is like Clemson, Venables has built that defense over time to top 10. What I've said many times is just give me a top 50-65 defense with a top 15 or so offense and I think we'll like where we end up more times than not. I don't think that's an unreachable goal with the right coaches on offense/defense. It can't be a defense in the 80+ range or it eventually catches up with you or you become Indiana.

This is why I will filter out a bit and have preference for guys who have shown or may have a propensity to deliver that mediocre defense and try to put combinations of HC/coordinator who might be able to do it.
 
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