I don't know guys... This thing about KJ Gray being charged with possession and the team not telling the University seems bad.
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I don't know guys... This thing about KJ Gray being charged with possession and the team not telling the University seems bad.
That didn't happen. He didn't tell anyone, INCLUDING Ash and the rest of the Coaching Staff.
The kid got kicked off the team. Theyre looking into kicking more players off the team if not suspending them for this episode. Idk how much more Ash couldve done to prevent this.I think he is somewhat in trouble. Part of bringing Ash in was to have an authoritative presence to prevent incidents like these happening. People are going to say it's impossible to keep track of a 100+ football players, but in the end he is ultimately responsible for what they do on and off the field.
The sensitivity is there after Flood. After all, most people here blame Flood for the breakins and street fight that occurred under his watch. While the biggest thing that Flood directly did was cover up positive drug tests (which is big), the other junk is most definitely associated with him. We laugh about the library incident, but that was barely an infraction if at all.The kid got kicked off the team. Theyre looking into kicking more players off the team if not suspending them for this episode. Idk how much more Ash couldve done to prevent this.
No he is not in trouble . Good try though.I don't know guys... This thing about KJ Gray being charged with possession and the team not telling the University seems bad.
I hope Ash didn't kick out the kid because of a little weed and an open container that is just stupid and very minor offense.
Umm, no to everything you said.The football program from an outsiders perspective seems a bit out of control. I don't know what Ash could have done differently in any of these situations, but at the end of the day someone in management is going to have to be held accountable and it might just be him. I was in the corner that wins per se this year didn't matter for his immediate future, he just needs to show that the program is more competitive on the field and moving in the right direction. I am starting to change my mind, it is a shame, death by a thousand cuts.
You said nothing, much like most of your 30,000 posts. One of the most prolific and useless posters in the history of this board.Umm, no to everything you said.
Golly, some of you need to grow a set and learn how to face the fire.
You said nothing, much like most of your 30,000 posts. One of the most prolific and useless posters in the history of this board.
Schiano always had the respect of his players.
What you think is respect many behind the scenes will describe as ruling with an iron first. I think there were more players that were just plain afraid of him and didn't want to get in his dog house.
Flood attempted to cover stuff up. Ash is pretty much doing the opposite.Yes, Ash is definitely in trouble. Not only has he produced horrific results on the field, but the program is now having Flood-like discipline problems.
Hey dummy, I refute and reject everything in your pussified post. Was that not clear? Program does not appear out of control. Quite the opposite.You said nothing, much like most of your 30,000 posts. One of the most prolific and useless posters in the history of this board.
Agree, he is awful. Went crying to the moderators about me recently because he couldn't take the heat. He knows his hero coach's days are numbered at RU, especially after these two revelations.You said nothing, much like most of your 30,000 posts. One of the most prolific and useless posters in the history of this board.
This is just false. Ash has kept most of these guys in check and if there is an issue he boots them off the team. Theres not much else you can do, some bad apples will always be bad.Yes, Ash is definitely in trouble. Not only has he produced horrific results on the field, but the program is now having Flood-like discipline problems.
I hated Flood, but he took us to three bowls and won one as a Big Ten member. Ash has done absolutely nothing to earn my (or anyone else's) loyalty. Awful results on the field, bad recruiting and now discipline issues.This is just false. Ash has kept most of these guys in check and if there is an issue he boots them off the team. Theres not much else you can do, some bad apples will always be bad.
I hated Flood, but he took us to three bowls and won one as a Big Ten member. Ash has done absolutely nothing to earn my (or anyone else's) loyalty. Awful results on the field, bad recruiting and now discipline issues.This is just false. Ash has kept most of these guys in check and if there is an issue he boots them off the team. Theres not much else you can do, some bad apples will always be bad.
Selective memory, Flood drove the program into the ground. It wouldn't matter if he won the national championship in his first year, the years afterword clearly had a massive downward trajectory. Ash just happened to inherit the team at its low point. Ash may not be the right guy, but comparing records is silly.I hated Flood, but he took us to three bowls and won one as a Big Ten member. Ash has done absolutely nothing to earn my (or anyone else's) loyalty. Awful results on the field, bad recruiting and now discipline issues.
The point is that Ash defenders have no data to back up their assertion that he's a great coach and that everyone else is "anti-RU" or "trolls." He's 6-18 with a loss to Eastern Michigan, 0 points scored against Ohio State, bad recruiting and now off-the-field problems. Yet I'm a "troll" for demanding at least 5 wins from him in his third year, which every Rutgers football coach in the last 50+ years has accomplished. LOLAsh may not be the right guy, but comparing records is silly.
If it's two guys and that's it, it's not a story. And you would be right - that's the definition of discipline and while it's not good, it is what it is (this would make 5 dismissals in 2 years which is probably pretty average).How is kicking 2 players off team, no questions asked, discipline issues?
That’s the definition of discipline. You screw up, you’re off the team.
What you think is respect many behind the scenes will describe as ruling with an iron first. I think there were more players that were just plain afraid of him and didn't want to get in his dog house.
All I know is that once this hit the paper I’ve been contacted by a bunch of marginal fans and observers, i.e., potential future season ticket holders, with the typical “RU in trouble again” type comments.
We can try to spin this anyway we want but it’s a really bad look.