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Great, Alvarez back for round two to run our football program into the ground for another decade.
Yes, totally freaking strange move having Barry Alvarez on the 150th Anniversary celebration panel, along with 2006 players and Marco Battaglia. Why would Rutgers NOT have their current AD on that panel? That's just strange.
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BTW and FWIW, I sent Barchi's office (president@rutgers.edu) an e-mail urging him to fire Hobbs. Calling a report "f..ing scum" is unacceptable for someone who is supposedly a leader.
Current softball situation aside, That panel is odd. Why is Barry Alvarez, who has zero connections to Rutgers other than the fact that he suggested the Ash hire, on the panel and the actual AD of Rutgers not on it.
Makes zero sense.
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Is that really a reason for an AD to be fired? Because he cursed in a text message? (And he has a reason to be mad)
Way to play into it. Why do you believe the reporter's account of what was said?
So sarge is being used as a tool? I'm not sure I buy this as a takedown. That article had to take months to research on today's budgets for real journalism. If this story started in August, how does that fit in your theory?
If I read it correctly, the cursing happened during a phone call and the apology was via text. Agree, not a fireable offense unless this isn’t the first time (although it must be as the SL would have said so if it wasn’t the first time).
I could care less if Hobbs is fired. Never rubbed me the right way. Though I admire his basketball love. If Hobbs is fired, I'd get nervous about Pikiell feeling unsecure.
I for one assumed (looks like a mistake) that with the mid season firing of a football coach at RU the AD had a strong plan in place that would make sense and we could all say - hey that made sense. That is seemingly not what has transpired so this story may have deep legs. If it is true can we finally stop the political hires and a get a B1G experienced AD on board to professionally run this program?
Camden I usually agree with you but not this time. Who knows how much that crew has been hammering him during the recent coaching search. He had poor judgment but the nj.com crew can’t be trusted.
Pike has made enough progress that he will be fine no matter who takes over if and when Hobbs gets canned.
If this is true, it is sad. No AD has done more for Rutgers than Hobbs. Look where we were when Julie left and where we are today. If Greg Brown didn't force Ash on Hobbs, we would be in even better shape. Brown is a control freak and needs a fall guy for his Ash mistake.
Hobbs has a big ego and can turn people off including big donors. Bottom line - he is leading us into the future and has a plan. Some of the staff don't like him as he demands accountability. That's good. I can live with his ego if he continues to move us forward.
Don't want to retreat to the days of Julie, Tim, and god-forbid Fred.
I would like to believe this about Hobbs, but the attention to detail under Hobbs in many areas of the program has been abysmal - from the ticket office, to website usability, to credit card machines and general customer service all have been horrible.
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So Barry Alvarez will be the next AD at Rutgers? Is that what we get from this?
I'm getting so tired of Rutgers being involved in BS items that turn into big issues nationally. Yet SEC and ACC schools can payoff players and families. (and have fake classes). We are so small time.
I'm getting so tired of Rutgers being involved in BS items that turn into big issues nationally. Yet SEC and ACC schools can payoff players and families. (and have fake classes). We are so small time.
I happened to talk to two former football players in the last month and both have said Hobbs was a political hire who has no idea what he is doing. Does anyone want that hiring our next coach? Never been a fan myself.
Here's a theory.. what if the fundraising we attribute to Hobbs was in-progress before he got here? Joining the Big Ten was due to reap benefits, right? The main sponsors seem to be long time donors as well as RWJ/Barnabas Health.. which is involved in the Barchi-lead med school merger stuff.
Insiders would know who was truly responsible for what (I am not one).. and it could be that looking at how important the football hire is.. perhaps Hobbs just doesn't look like he should be the guy making that decision. And if that's the case.. either hire Schiano or hire an AD who has made several great football hires.
Should he not have chugged beers with students when he first got here? Was that wrong? (actually, I liked that about him).
Insiders would know who was truly responsible for what (I am not one).. and it could be that looking at how important the football hire is.. perhaps Hobbs just doesn't look like he should be the guy making that decision. And if that's the case.. either hire Schiano or hire an AD who has made several great football hires.
Should he not have chugged beers with students when he first got here? Was that wrong? (actually, I liked that about him).
if the big boosters don’t want Hobbs he is gone. Otherwise he can’t raise money and would be worthless.
Whether they have lost faith or not in him is anybody’s guess.
Though clearly where there is smoke there is usually some fire and lately there has been slot of smoke.
Maybe Alvarez takes over as AD as part of a high level reset tied to the 150th anniversary in which Greg is hired ????
Or maybe the plan is to move Marco Battaglia to AD in conjunction with hiring Greg?
Barry's role is to maybe discuss the barriers to and opportunities for success at Rutgers? The good, the bad, the ugly?
I’m watching the WS and decide to check the board in case something is happening and I read this. What the hell is going on? Has RU become some sort of banana republic being taken over by some kind of coup? I believe Hobbs has an ego and he is supposed to be the guy who hires the coach but he has bosses. If his bosses want Schiano that much why doesn’t he just hire the guy. Schiano may not be Urban Meyer but he certainly wouldn’t be seen as a stupid or bad hire even by people who don’t necessarily want him. This is nuts if it is all true.
This.
If any of this is remotely true and it’s being orchestrated by Greg Brown that guy is a jackass.
I have to believe Rutgers beuracracy and lawyers dont churn out FOIL requests in 2 weeks.
CamdenLaw, I hope you also told Barchi we should bar any and all Star-Liar“reporters” from having any access to any Rutgers Coach, player, or facility and the sale of their piece of garbage will no longer be allowed on any Rutgers campus. Enough is enough. For decades, we have seen the anti-Rutgers media either attack or ignore their own State University. Every school stands up when they are attacked. The days of allowing the media to tell us what to do and think must end. Grow a spine Rutgers !!!
I highly doubt the big donors who love our school would volunteerly drag our school and it's name through the mud to hire a football coach.
I mean holy f-ck can we have some sort of stability in this athletic department for once in our lives?
I mean holy f-ck can we have some sort of stability in this athletic department for once in our lives?
Problem with big boosters, with the money comes power they have no right to have.
I posted this in another thread but it is probably more relevant here. Its an incredibly interesting scenario and very un Rutgers like. My feeling is if Hobbs has not hired Greg by now, he has no intention of bringing him back. Under the scenario you present, the message to Hobbs is maybe he should rethink that decision.
My opinion is that Hobbs has done a good job here, with one big exception. And I give him a pass on that because of the urgency to hire a head football coach immediately after he started.
You’re a real loser to try and take away a man’s livelihood because he had a bad moment, and it wasn’t even that bad.
And that is a huge false narrative--political hire.
"FOIL"?
Everything in that story was fed to them. The legal documents were dropped on them, with bulleted summaries as to the more salacious details. Former players and their families were made available for interviews.
The coordination that led to this piece was all done before Stanmeyer got his hands on it.
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