If this is true, the inmates are running the asylum. A booster who recommends (or hires if the rumors are true) Ash wants to hire the new coach and Hobbs is weary of the hire, so he sets him up to be the patsy?! And we are worried about Hobbs’ and Schiano’s egos?
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Barchi was an idiot and is in all ways related to the athletic department...there was enough to can Flood early on in the season yet he let if fester and twist because he didnt want to trust the AD he hired and then waited til the very end to swiftly pack both away and then without any search behind the scenes delivered an AD who had no real experience running an athletic dept who promptly hired the worst coach in Rutgers football history compounded that mistake with an awful contract and then made things worse by bringing him back
See my reply to @letitrip2 above. He was a smart choice for INTERIM AD. I can't help it if Barchi, Greg Brown and Kenneth Schmidt fell in love and drove it home to a permanent position.
So perhaps you want to ask the BOG and Barchi those questions. Or perhaps you don't need to. It's quintessential Rutgers standard operating procedure. Don't shoot the messenger.
With all of that said, Hobbs would have earned the full-time/permanent AD title anyway based on all of the fundraising he did for the Barnabas Performance Center. It's water under the Lynch bridge.
Sorry - I was off by three and
I stand by what I wrote - Your details just drive the point home that this is no way to hire a B1G AD.
Is it really all that big of a deal if this all goes down
1 - Schiano should be the coach. While I would love some huge name it’s not happening. Let Schiano bring us back to respectability over the next 7 years. At that point we can afford to throw some real money around if we have to move on
2 - Where is Pickell going? Yes we are better, but that’s by RU standards. I think he is the right guy but maybe he needs to get us to the tournament a couple times before bigger programs would come calling
3 - The fundraising Hobbs has done goes away if these same donors don’t want him here
4 - Hobbs is proving maybe he has a bit to big of an ego to run a BIG Ten AD Department if we are ever going to get where we want to athletically. Sounds like he wants to be the #1 guy on campus. Ideally he would be #3 behind the football and basketball coach
1 - Schiano should be the coach. While I would love some huge name it’s not happening. Let Schiano bring us back to respectability over the next 7 years. At that point we can afford to throw some real money around if we have to move on
2 - Where is Pickell going? Yes we are better, but that’s by RU standards. I think he is the right guy but maybe he needs to get us to the tournament a couple times before bigger programs would come calling
3 - The fundraising Hobbs has done goes away if these same donors don’t want him here
4 - Hobbs is proving maybe he has a bit to big of an ego to run a BIG Ten AD Department if we are ever going to get where we want to athletically. Sounds like he wants to be the #1 guy on campus. Ideally he would be #3 behind the football and basketball coach
Very good find, and something I forgot, so belated kudos to Julie and whoever else set that in motion.
It still took some muscle to get the companion Assembly bill through and Gov. Christie to sign the bill, which happened under Hobbs' watch.
Julie deserves credit here, but Hobbs gets most of the glory for seeing it through.
https://www.dailyrecord.com/story/s...iving-tax-credits-rutgers-athletics/79056622/
Oh please!! Hobbs was a Christie hire, plain and simple. Everyone knows it. You must think politicians are honest.
Don't be so sure.
Check out the AD at Indiana. I posted in the past. Think his name is Glass. Hired under nearly identical circumstances to Hobbs, when Indiana was under fire for what happened with Kevin Wilson. Universities live in fear and make dumb, reactionary decisions that come back to haunt them. This is not unique to Rutgers. Maybe it does not happen at blue bloods like Michigan and Wisconsin and Ohio State.
Glass has a similar background to Hobbs:
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/12/kevin-wilson-indiana-fred-glass-football-coach
It could be that Glass and Wilson simply couldn’t work together any longer. Football coaches are often quite different from the people working in administration, and Glass does not come from a traditional sports background. Wilson, meanwhile, can be boisterous, brusque and hard-charging.
But it seems like there’s more than that going on. Glass had an Indy law firm conduct a review of the program, which is an unusual step.
And much of the speculation about what ended Wilson’s tenure has centered on his treatment of injured players.
Other former players spoke with reporters about being rushed back from injury. These are just anecdotes, though, and can’t be seen as a whole picture; college football teams have more than 100 players, and you’re bound to have those who like the coach and those who don’t, whether or not the coach is actually doing something wrong or unethical.
i'm almost 2 hours and 4 pages behind so I don't know what follows...BUT IF what you type is true.....OMG...Good Knight Irene. IF TRUE I will either be just in front of you or right off your a$$. .
What are you specifically referring to? You are making huge assumptions on three fronts--"so-called insiders," "OK for this to happen" "No other B1G team hires this way." I ain't no insider. Not quite sure what "this" and what "hire" are you talking about?
He's paid a lot of money and one of his responsibilities is to deal with situations like this without losing his cool. If he can't do it, he needs to be gone.
from my recollection it seemed like Barchi really had no interest in an upgrade in facilities, as if he couldnt concern himself with it and he couldnt understand what RU being in the Big 10 needed, meanwhile he gave Julie strick orders do not spend money on sports, its all about the subsidy. So Julie was muzzled and then she had resistence from the Pernetti ass lickers who refused to pony up any money..so basically nothing was going to happen. Julie talked a court club meeting about they werent going to be able to see something until 2021 or later til the money came in and then it filtered to the boards and then to the papers and then Lesniak got involved
in reality Barchi should have been at the forefront in 2013 but was too busy with merger...thats not the job of a president...he should have been hired to do the merger not to be our President, thats where the intial mistake was made.
Very simple -- Hobbs hasn't claimed the quote is wrong. If it had been, he would have had a statement out in ten minutes after the story appeared.
Whenever Barchi has stepped in and gone commando, it has not ended well. See the Mike Rice scandal, followed by the Pernetti firing, followed by the hiring of Julie.
Then the firing of Julie and Flood, and the rapid hiring of Hobbs, which was only supposed to be an interim hire.
People complain that he does not care about athletics. He actually has showed that he cares an awful lot. Athletics would have been a lot better of if he had cared less.
It’s impossible to understand a single thing written in this thread.
Again, Hobbs hasn't denied it. So it's not a question of whether to trust "the nj.com crew." We know they're telling the truth, and anyway they have the text apologizing, which is an admission.
yeah...and THAT's how I judge the AD at Freaking Rutgers during these last few years. Seriously. Forget the BIG stuff and the facilities and the non-football ON FIELD achievements.
I'm the biggest critic on the small stuff but you cannot "can" this dude over that stuff?
"hey, we beat xyz in abc this week but my hot dog was cold"
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Anyone who knows Pat knows number 4 is the furthest thing from the truth. He'd hire Saban if he could.
This x1,000,000
That dope to this day has never understood that Football drives Athletics $. He has ignorned the business side of Athlectics from day one.
Nonsense.
Show a pattern of behavior, and I'll bite. As an isolated event, this is just histrionic pearl clutching.
Is it really up to the AD to get a tax abatement?
As the state's flagship state u.. Rutgers should have politicians lining up to help it out.
The Big Ten Build Fund officially launched in January of 2016. Hobbs was hired as AD November 29, 2015. Are you telling me that the the Big Ten Build was his idea? That he created it in his first month on the job? That he negotiated with RWJ/Barnabas Health to be the strategic partner for that build fund all in his first month on the job?
It's an admission that he sent a text in which he “apologize for my words.” We don't know what the words are. Reporters and fake news media make stuff up frequently and trump up things to make them more salacious. The once vaunted NY Times has been caught doing this numerous times.
How can you say "We know they're telling the truth?" They have been exposed as prone to twist facts to fit an agenda to make Rutgers look bad many times before. See the Mulcahy firing. See the false information on the Rutgers budget.
Really? Did you think that about the Ash firing -- that Hobbs was taking "away a man's livelihood? Or did you think the firing was good. What Hobbs has done is way out of line for someone who is supposed to be a leading executive.
I always like to keep things simple - many on this board seem to think hiring an AD from the recommendation of a politician is OK. I do not.
You cannot defend him like this because you do not know if there was a recording of the call.
Going down this path just begs someone to produce the video... that is if what we discuss here had any impact.
I think the point many of us are making is OK, he said it. Big deal. Not worth a discharge over. People qre WAY TOO thin skinned. Leader spoken or not.
That kind of statement makes the university look very bad. Very bad. It would be bad enough if it were an athlete in the heat of competition -- Hobbs is supposed to be a person who keeps his cool in pressure situations.
I tell you about the character of both Barchi and Hobbs. Barchi has been to the Scarlet Walk once. Hobbs has visited the Letterwinners on the recruiting lounge during a game never.
If I had said "****ing scum" to a student in my class, I would be in *BIG* trouble.
I'm not telling you anything. But as much as the Hobbs haters would hate to admit it, he was quite experienced at fund raising and being involved with building major athletics facilities (Prudential Center). The website and the launch should have occurred before Hobbs was hired. But Julie was too busy pulling her foot out of her mouth or was being hidden away in a back room so that should did not make any more embarrassing statements to the press.
I appreciate that everyone uses different language and I have no issue with cursing, but “f’ing scum” is next level stuff. I posted within the past week that Hobbs was feeling the pressure and I was shouted down. I may have been wrong, but an outburst like this is indicative of an overall attitude, of which I agree there is no evidence, or someone who let the pressure get to him.
Out of line? Sure. Worthy of criticism and some form of repercussion? Sure. I didn't know there was a "call a reporter a name and you're fired" clause in his contract, though.
the issue it he doesnt get the juggling act of when to be hands on and when to be hands off...its almost as if he meddles when he shouldnt and is awol when he should but his overall goal of ending the subsidy is the real killer
Rutgers likes drama far more than winning.
this isnt a classroom..he is talking to scum reporters, have you paid attention to the behavior of the press lately
whole different relationship sir. you're projecting.
Yeah, calling and asking for comment on a story. Real despicable stuff there...
Yeah, that's a law school class. This is athletics and dealing with jagaloon reporters driving a false narrative.
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