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At least getting robbed by Optimum on a monthly basis is worth something. In her interview with Cable News 12, Rutgers AD said that Donors would be key to raising funds for Rutgers new basketball facility. She seemed adamant about this point. This is our opportunity to step up to the plate.

- UConn donors got it done
- Syracuse donors got it done
- Villanova donors got it done

Those fanbases are a FRACTION of what ours is. They have bills, kids, and other expenses too. I HOPE we get it done. I will do my part, and I hope others will do the same. You can't complain about Rutgers basketball and then not seize the opportunity to make it better.

We are also going to need help from football fans, as basketball doesn't have as many fans. It's important for football fans to pitch in, as the rebuilt racmosphere will help sell football recruits, just as it did back in the day. A good bb game enhances football recruiting weekends immeasurably.

We can get it done.
 
Originally posted by rutgersal:
At least getting robbed by Optimum on a monthly basis is worth something. In her interview with Cable News 12, Rutgers AD said that Donors would be key to raising funds for Rutgers new basketball facility. She seemed adamant about this point. This is our opportunity to step up to the plate.

- UConn donors got it done
- Syracuse donors got it done
- Villanova donors got it done

Those fanbases are a FRACTION of what ours is. They have bills, kids, and other expenses too. I HOPE we get it done. I will do my part, and I hope others will do the same. You can't complain about Rutgers basketball and then not seize the opportunity to make it better.

We are also going to need help from football fans, as basketball doesn't have as many fans. It's important for football fans to pitch in, as the rebuilt racmosphere will help sell football recruits, just as it did back in the day. A good bb game enhances football recruiting weekends immeasurably.

We can get it done.
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UConn donors got what done. They have been the benficiaries of state largesse for a long time. Both academically and athletically.
 
I thought there was an article recently saying that despite what UConn reported about donors that the majority of the money they spent on facilities recently was actually from the state. Is that correct?
 
Originally posted by derleider:

UConn donors got what done. They have been the benficiaries of state largesse for a long time. Both academically and athletically.
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They contributed enough to get top of the line football and basketball facilities built. UConn donors contributed at least $30 million dollars of a $33 million dollar basketball facility.
 
Originally posted by knightfan7:


I thought there was an article recently saying that despite what UConn reported about donors that the majority of the money they spent on facilities recently was actually from the state. Is that correct?
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This is not correct.

http://today.uconn.edu/blog/2014/10/uconn-basketball-training-center-named-for-longtime-supporters/



The UConn Basketball Champions Center was dedicated today in the name of Peter J. and Pamela H. Werth, who made an initial multimillion pledge to launch the building project and followed that with a second gift that coincides with the opening of the new practice and training home for the Huskies' championship basketball programs.

The two donations, totaling $7 million, were critical for the project, the first University building financed entirely with private donations. The new $40 million basketball training facility is adjacent to the Harry A. Gampel Pavilion, the campus home of the 2014 National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) men's and women's basketball championship teams.

"We believe the Werth Family UConn Basketball Champions Center is the key to sustaining UConn's tradition of great basketball," said Coleman Levy '61 (CLAS), '62 MA, '66 JD, chairman of the UConn Foundation Board of Directors.

"Built solely with private donations, the Werth Family UConn Basketb
 
Its very easy to raise that kind of money when the state is paying for so much else.

On top of that - its relatively easy to fund raise when you are winning.

Which of course is why Ive been of the opinion for the better part of a decade now that instead of worrying about facilities, we splurge on a great coach, THEN worry about trying to raise funds.
 
What all this points up is the very difficult job it is to be AD (irrespective of what you think of Julie or anyone else who has held this position) at RU. There is no regular cadre of major donors standing by do what needs to be done, heightening the problem from time immemorial of low state support for the only major state U in NJ. The most pathetic example of this is what happened earlier this year in connection with the field hockey team's efforts to raise the very modest sum of $30K. In the end they had to go online to a crowdfunding type site to raise the balance of what was needed and I don't even know if that worked. This is something one might expect at a community college or maybe a small NAIA school, but not at the flagship State U of a relatively wealthy state. That example sums up where we are compared to say, a PSU, where someone decided they needed a hockey program and dropped $80M into their coffers to do that while we have to go online and beg for a few thousand dollars. No wonder our recruiting in so many sports is so poor as are our results.

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I kind of agree with derleider here.

Yes UConn was able to pay for practice facilities, but that is because the state paid 100% for their stadium and has invested BILLIONS of dollars in academic facilities, which takes that burden off their donors.

All that being said, getting future athletic facilities paid for by donors (or at least majority by donors) is the right way. It will take more time because Rutgers has been using debt to pay for everything up until now, but as we see today that just hamstrings you from doing future projects.
 
it is much easier to sell a stadium or practice center idea to donors / the state when you have both men's and women's programs that win national championships.
 
Is this Breaking News? We've known this for years. Rutgers donations are not good
 
Originally posted by derleider:
Its very easy to raise that kind of money when the state is paying for so much else.

On top of that - its relatively easy to fund raise when you are winning.

Which of course is why Ive been of the opinion for the better part of a decade now that instead of worrying about facilities, we splurge on a great coach, THEN worry about trying to raise funds.
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What Connecticut gives UConn shouldn't factor into our decision whether or not to support the Basketball practice facility. Nova and Syracuse get virtually no support from the state, yet they were able to fundraise for their basketball facilities.

Football expansion was 100% funded by the school, making it difficult for us to do anything else.

We have a great coach in Eddie Jordan. We pay him more than we've paid anyone else. Now its important for us to give him the support he needs to be successful. No great recruit is coming to play in an antiquated facility like the RAC, when they can play in better facilities up and down the East Coast and MidWest. Its about showing recruits that we are committed to the success of Rutgers Basketball.
 
Cuse, UConn and Nova can't hold a candle to RU in terms of football fans, BUT all three, especially the first two I listed have fan bases much, much larger than RU. They gladly give the donations for basketball and in the case of UConn, have various other fees that they pay for both the men's and women's teams.

As others have stated, winning increases everything and until the results are there the donations will lag behind those of the other schools for basketball. Football fans will want their donations to be used for football.
 
Originally posted by rutgersal:

Originally posted by derleider:
Its very easy to raise that kind of money when the state is paying for so much else.

On top of that - its relatively easy to fund raise when you are winning.

Which of course is why Ive been of the opinion for the better part of a decade now that instead of worrying about facilities, we splurge on a great coach, THEN worry about trying to raise funds.
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What Connecticut gives UConn shouldn't factor into our decision whether or not to support the Basketball practice facility. Nova and Syracuse get virtually no support from the state, yet they were able to fundraise for their basketball facilities.

Football expansion was 100% funded by the school, making it difficult for us to do anything else.

We have a great coach in Eddie Jordan. We pay him more than we've paid anyone else. Now its important for us to give him the support he needs to be successful. No great recruit is coming to play in an antiquated facility like the RAC, when they can play in better facilities up and down the East Coast and MidWest. Its about showing recruits that we are committed to the success of Rutgers Basketball.
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I agree with your point, just saying UConn is a bad example. Overall, their donors are as bad, if not worse, than Rutgers.
 
Originally posted by rutgersal:
Originally posted by derleider:
Its very easy to raise that kind of money when the state is paying for so much else.

On top of that - its relatively easy to fund raise when you are winning.

Which of course is why Ive been of the opinion for the better part of a decade now that instead of worrying about facilities, we splurge on a great coach, THEN worry about trying to raise funds.
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What Connecticut gives UConn shouldn't factor into our decision whether or not to support the Basketball practice facility. Nova and Syracuse get virtually no support from the state, yet they were able to fundraise for their basketball facilities.

Football expansion was 100% funded by the school, making it difficult for us to do anything else.

We have a great coach in Eddie Jordan. We pay him more than we've paid anyone else. Now its important for us to give him the support he needs to be successful. No great recruit is coming to play in an antiquated facility like the RAC, when they can play in better facilities up and down the East Coast and MidWest. Its about showing recruits that we are committed to the success of Rutgers Basketball.
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Sure it should. Donors pockets aren't infinitely deep. If RU wants to keep pace with other universities academically it must spend money like those other universities. If those universities are getting lots of stuff done with state money, it frees up their donors to spend money elsewhere, like on a basketball practice facility.

The fat that Eddie makes more than anyone else we've ever paid more or less sums up why we havent been to the tournament in 20+ years.

As for no great recruit coming here. Thats just BS. No great recruit is going to come play for a bad coach just because we have a fancy locker room and bigger TVs.

Or to use a real life example - Schiano turned our recruiting around on a dime through sheer personality and vision. He didn't even have a history of winning behind him. And our facilities in FB were as outdated as those in BB, and didnt get replaced by the upgraded Hale Center for several years.

Even if Eddie is good - his status will be so tarnished by the time this facility gets built, even if its started immediately in the summer (which the delay to summer doesn't speak well for), that we will need a new coach.

So basically - we are going to need both a new coach and a new facility. Its cheaper and easier to get a new coach, and getting a high profile coach (oh Ben Howland, why couldnt you have waited ONE MORE YEAR to get back in the game) makes fund raising for the facility easier. Plu, then you get a recruiting boost a few years in, when its needed for a coach that is probably lagging somewhat due to having to rebuild this mess of a proram.

But we are Rutgers, so we will do the hard way. Try to fundraise for a new facility while we are at our lowest point, then WASTE the golden oppurtunity of opening the facility and getting a boost from it, on a coach who will be at that point, on his way out the door.
 
Originally posted by derleider:


As for no great recruit coming here. Thats just BS. No great recruit is going to come play for a bad coach just because we have a fancy locker room and bigger TVs.
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But the fancy locker room and shiney practice facility allow you to attract a good coach, who in turn attracts good recruits. Not sure why this is so hard for some to understand. It's all so elementary.
 
Less than 10% of Rutgers alumni are donors to the university.The two basketball programs can't have more than 4000 season ticket holders combined.The question that has remained unanswered for a very long time "where are the donors that will suddenly appear to fund facility construction"?I understand the circumstances for saying what happens will be donor driven but I just don't see public interest in Rutgers athletics.Dependence on season ticket holders for football and basketball to fund the athletic department is just too small a base of donors and they are getting tapped out with increases for tickets,parking and annual contribution requirements.
 
Originally posted by RU-JMM78:

Less than 10% of Rutgers alumni are donors to the university.The two basketball programs can't have more than 4000 season ticket holders combined.The question that has remained unanswered for a very long time "where are the donors that will suddenly appear to fund facility construction"?I understand the circumstances for saying what happens will be donor driven but I just don't see public interest in Rutgers athletics.Dependence on season ticket holders for football and basketball to fund the athletic department is just too small a base of donors and they are getting tapped out with increases for tickets,parking and annual contribution requirements.[/B]
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I have been saying this for a long time. How much more can season ticket holders pay? We desperately need new donors.
 
I am no expert in fundraising but I would guess the answer isn't to dry and get more from the existing donor base, but rather to find ways to expand the donor (and fan)base.
 
While I recognize Rutgers just closed out the OUR RUTGERS, OUR FUTURE campaign, I think the University should start one for the 250th anniversary.

Market to every alum with a "$250 for the 250th". Hell, cross reference the football and basketball season tix holders and remove them from that marketing campaign. Imagine getting a majority of our alum to contribute AT LEAST $250 for that campaign?!
 
Al...its not going to be you or me or the far majority of poster on this board. Any facilities for basketball and other sports are going to come on the backs of big donors...I mean BIG donors. I really think that's why we aren't hearing the plan for public consumption until Julie feels the money is there to start with the projects. People keep saying that they will donate if they just hear a plan are missing the point. As Rutgersnyc just said that's nickel and dime stuff. The little guys can do their donating after the fact, every little bit will help but in the planning stages Julie needs BIG BIG money so it makes sense she is keeping plans away from the public for now

It makes perfect sense that Julie is keeping this under wraps...the last project not only didn't have the money but it didn't have any start dates. Julie can work with the donors to make a plan that works for them
 
Sadly, much of the issues regarding our limited donor base are, as I've noted before, demographically related. We have a large percentage of commuters (NJ is so small, you can get to RU from most of the state within an hour or so - not so for PSU where most students are not commuters since it's in the middle of nowhere) and first generation college attendees (both indicators of less than upper middle class status - as of a few years ago, RU was the only flagship State U where the average income o a student's family was lower than the average income for the state). That means (i) many students do not get the full buccholic 4 year college experience that in later years inspires giving (even students who live on campus or near campus often remember the "RU Screw" as much as anything pleasant thus inhibiting the desire to give), (ii) many students do not come from backgrounds where charitable giving is part of life, (iii) many students lack the familial and other connections that lead to high-paying jobs soon after school and eventual higher incomes that make charitable giving easier. Bottom line is that until we get kids from the Summits, Milburns, Rumson's, Bernardsvilles, Old Tappans, Chathams, etc., in greater numbers than we are getting them now, fundraising will remain a challenge.
 
Originally posted by CuredbywinningRU:
Sadly, much of the issues regarding our limited donor base are, as I've noted before, demographically related. We have a large percentage of commuters (NJ is so small, you can get to RU from most of the state within an hour or so - not so for PSU where most students are not commuters since it's in the middle of nowhere) and first generation college attendees (both indicators of less than upper middle class status - as of a few years ago, RU was the only flagship State U where the average income o a student's family was lower than the average income for the state). That means (i) many students do not get the full buccholic 4 year college experience that in later years inspires giving (even students who live on campus or near campus often remember the "RU Screw" as much as anything pleasant thus inhibiting the desire to give), (ii) many students do not come from backgrounds where charitable giving is part of life, (iii) many students lack the familial and other connections that lead to high-paying jobs soon after school and eventual higher incomes that make charitable giving easier. Bottom line is that until we get kids from the Summits, Milburns, Rumson's, Bernardsvilles, Old Tappans, Chathams, etc., in greater numbers than we are getting them now, fundraising will remain a challenge.
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Well said.
 
Originally posted by CuredbywinningRU:
Sadly, much of the issues regarding our limited donor base are, as I've noted before, demographically related. We have a large percentage of commuters (NJ is so small, you can get to RU from most of the state within an hour or so - not so for PSU where most students are not commuters since it's in the middle of nowhere) and first generation college attendees (both indicators of less than upper middle class status - as of a few years ago, RU was the only flagship State U where the average income o a student's family was lower than the average income for the state). That means (i) many students do not get the full buccholic 4 year college experience that in later years inspires giving (even students who live on campus or near campus often remember the "RU Screw" as much as anything pleasant thus inhibiting the desire to give), (ii) many students do not come from backgrounds where charitable giving is part of life, (iii) many students lack the familial and other connections that lead to high-paying jobs soon after school and eventual higher incomes that make charitable giving easier. Bottom line is that until we get kids from the Summits, Milburns, Rumson's, Bernardsvilles, Old Tappans, Chathams, etc., in greater numbers than we are getting them now, fundraising will remain a challenge.
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This is not grounded in reality anymore.

You can go and read on the Issues board, RU is getting more and more applications.

I graduated in 2007. My freshman year roommate was from Chatham as were at least two other people in my dorm. I'm friends with another alum from Millburn, and I think the "poorest" town I knew someone from was either South Plainfield or Brooklyn/Queens.

The RU Screw is mostly made up.

If the implication is only that country club types are charitable, please.

And I'm a lawyer now, I donate to RU, and I'm the first in my family to go to college, and I'm hardly the only person to whom that applies.
 
Originally posted by TonyLieske:
I am no expert in fundraising but I would guess the answer isn't to dry and get more from the existing donor base, but rather to find ways to expand the donor (and fan)base.
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+1. But we currently have two problems. A small and unwilling RU donor base and an AD that is inexperienced at fund raising on this level. It adds up to a challenging scenario to get a BB practice facility off the ground.

Gun to my head I say that the BB practice facility doesn't see the light of day for years to come. When JH told the Court Club that they should expect to wait ten years before seeing competitive facilities you can be sure she had already assessed her ability to raise private donations among the RU faithful. And it wasn't an optimistic forecast.
 
Wrong...how she is Inexperienced as if the two previous ADs were. Do you just throw things at the wall like Politi does...Sarah also raised oodles of money at Missouri so your theory falls flat
 
Originally posted by bac2therac:
Wrong...how she is Inexperienced as if the two previous ADs were. Do you just throw things at the wall like Politi does...Sarah also raised oodles of money at Missouri so your theory falls flat
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OK, so are you telling us that Julie and Sarah have the ability to raise private funds to build a practice facility ? I'm sure that you won't answer that question for obvious reasons.

if JH has the ability to generate private funding for a practice facility then why did she set expectations with the Court Club that they should expect to wait ten years to see B1G type facilities ? More crickets from you again.
 
NotinourHouse - I hear your anecdotal evidence but the fact remains that RU is heavily a commuter school filled with first generation college kids. A high percentage of RU kids go there for economic reasons. The school's underfunding means it lacks the creature comforts that attract upper middle class kids so most go elsewhere and it becomes a vicious cycle. For example, most kids in NJ where money is no object pick PSU over RU (my cousin who lived in Summit told me about this recently) and very few prep school kids who have money to make a choice go to RU. Those are the facts irrespective of individuals that you may have known. I live in FL where not only do upper middle class folks really want to go to UF - now an excellent school with great students and great funding, but many upper middle class kids also go to FSU including my company's CEO's daughter who had gone to a private prep school. It is very common to see very expensive cars where I live with UF and FSU adornments - it is not very common to see that in NJ with RU adormments and that is symptomatic of the problem. If you don't believe me, I invite you to start a thread asking people from the types of towns I mentioned as to what the current stats are of kids with economic choices who pick RU from those towns. I think that would bear me out. But even more simply, look at the cars in even the red lot at RU during a football game and compare it what the cars look like even at similar lots at places like FSU (let alone, UF, Michigan, PSU, Indiana) - there are just aren't enough upper middle class folks who are tied to RU or RU athletics at this point and that's why the funding is so poor and it's not going to change until we get that crowd to care. My area of particular expertise is tennis (my daughter's sport) and I can't tell you how many small schools (let alone big ones) have very nice tennis venues named for donors who made a big gift to create a nice facility. We don't even have lights on our courts - absurd. And this is all over the RU map.

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Originally posted by derleider:
Its very easy to raise that kind of money when the state is paying for so much else.

On top of that - its relatively easy to fund raise when you are winning.

Which of course is why Ive been of the opinion for the better part of a decade now that instead of worrying about facilities, we splurge on a great coach, THEN worry about trying to raise funds.
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Again Al spewing out fantasy tidbits with no factual backup.
The Carrier Dome was not built with Donations from Syracuse Fans. New York State paid over 70% of the Construction costs with the Carrier paying the balance via Naming Rights .
 
Originally posted by CuredbywinningRU:
NotinourHouse - I hear your anecdotal evidence but the fact remains that RU is heavily a commuter school filled with first generation college kids. A high percentage of RU kids go there for economic reasons. The school's underfunding means it lacks the creature comforts that attract upper middle class kids so most go elsewhere and it becomes a vicious cycle. For example, most kids in NJ where money is no object pick PSU over RU (my cousin who lived in Summit told me about this recently) and very few prep school kids who have money to make a choice go to RU. Those are the facts irrespective of individuals that you may have known. I live in FL where not only do upper middle class folks really want to go to UF - now an excellent school with great students and great funding, but many upper middle class kids also go to FSU including my company's CEO's daughter who had gone to a private prep school. It is very common to see very expensive cars where I live with UF and FSU adornments - it is not very common to see that in NJ with RU adormments and that is symptomatic of the problem. If you don't believe me, I invite you to start a thread asking people from the types of towns I mentioned as to what th current stats are of kids with economic choices who pick RU from those towns. I think that would beat me out.
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Well said again. I don't know why people try to deny it. It isn't a negative comment. It is what it is.
 
Originally posted by Knightmoves:


Originally posted by bac2therac:
Wrong...how she is Inexperienced as if the two previous ADs were. Do you just throw things at the wall like Politi does...Sarah also raised oodles of money at Missouri so your theory falls flat
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OK, so are you telling us that Julie and Sarah have the ability to raise private funds to build a practice facility ? I'm sure that you won't answer that question for obvious reasons.

if JH has the ability to generate private funding for a practice facility then why did she set expectations with the Court Club that they should expect to wait ten years to see B1G type facilities ? More crickets from you again.
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the fact is they are going to try which is more than Uncle Bob when it came to actually both sports. They are just about as qualified as any and certainly better than those that preceded them.
 
Originally posted by bac2therac:
Originally posted by Knightmoves:


Originally posted by bac2therac:
Wrong...how she is Inexperienced as if the two previous ADs were. Do you just throw things at the wall like Politi does...Sarah also raised oodles of money at Missouri so your theory falls flat
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OK, so are you telling us that Julie and Sarah have the ability to raise private funds to build a practice facility ? I'm sure that you won't answer that question for obvious reasons.

if JH has the ability to generate private funding for a practice facility then why did she set expectations with the Court Club that they should expect to wait ten years to see B1G type facilities ? More crickets from you again.
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the fact is they are going to try which is more than Uncle Bob when it came to actually both sports. They are just about as qualified as any and certainly better than those that preceded them.
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Without uncle Bob this board would barely exist the way it does today. Hate him all you want but the only reason the basketball program has a remote chance at becoming a legit program is because what he did helped Rutgers get into the B1G. $$$ you want was never ever going to basketball the way you imagined it and only because of Football will it be properly funded down the line. You've waited over 20 yrs, sit back and wait 5 more and count your blessings enough is enough with you.

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No AD to date has been successful at getting more than a tiny handful of semi-major donors to give to RU sports, so it's hard to criticize any of them in that regard. It is a very tall order and anyone who can succeed in that realm becomes, in my mind, a member of that rarefied pantheon of difference-makers in the world at RU sports which pantheon, to my mind, includes Greg Schiano for what he did from scratch and I'm not sure who else.
 
Originally posted by RU#1fan:

Originally posted by derleider:
Its very easy to raise that kind of money when the state is paying for so much else.

On top of that - its relatively easy to fund raise when you are winning.

Which of course is why Ive been of the opinion for the better part of a decade now that instead of worrying about facilities, we splurge on a great coach, THEN worry about trying to raise funds.
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Again Al spewing out fantasy tidbits with no factual backup.
The Carrier Dome was not built with Donations from Syracuse Fans. New York State paid over 70% of the Construction costs with the Carrier paying the balance via Naming Rights .
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Al never mentioned the Carrier Dome.
 
Originally posted by CuredbywinningRU:
No AD to date has been successful at getting more than a tiny handful of semi-major donors to give to RU sports, so it's hard to criticize any of them in that regard. It is a very tall order and anyone who can succeed in that realm becomes, in my mind, a member of that rarefied pantheon of difference-makers in the world at RU sports which pantheon, to my mind, includes Greg Schiano for what he did from scratch and I'm not sure who else.
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I think you are substantially over-estimating the number of New Brunswick/Piscataway students who are commuters, and the number with low socio-economic status. We do have a lot of first-generation college graduates,but I think that hardly makes us unique among state universities. I agree with you that RU does not seem to have a sports-rabid student body, but I'd caution you that the factors you raise are probably not those the most responsible. NJ simply does not have a tradition of caring about non-professonal teams, and that produces undergrads who are not excited about such teams either.
 
Camdenlawprof - thanks for your thoughts but I disagree in this regard - NJ's lack of interest in college sports is a much smaller issue than the lack of upper middle class kids who go to RU - Penn is a huge pro sports state but PSU still gets a lot of funding. The issue is that NJs movers and shakers just don't send their kids to RU in significant numbers. As for multiple State Us having first generation college kids, RU is much more amenable to that demographic since it has a huge population in commuting distance unlike many other flagship state universities.
 
Cured sorry but you are being ridiuclous.

Most state schools are attractive because of cost. Even OOS wise, because usually the cost is less than a private school.

Do you really think that people from Greenwich are dying to go to UConn or that students at a prep school in any of the 50 states, a minority in all of them, are pushing to go to a state school? If the parents can afford that they can afford private college.

Just because someone is a first generation American does not mean they are poor. A majority of my friends growing up had at least one parent born abroad, and the town I'm from has average family income well in excess of 100k.

If you think a Summit parent aspires for their kid to go to TTFP you are insanely mistaken.

RU has the second largest on campus population of any school in America but we are a commuter school?

Our donors are bad, as a lot, but they are basically in line with most NE publics versus in most of the rest of the country where there are no Ivy League, Seven Sisters, lots of Catholic schools, etc. That, and NJ itself is a horrible funder of higher ed.

If you really think that RU will suffer until we are full of Stepford children, stop rooting now, because most of our students will come from NJ, and being the great state we are, that will always mean lots of first time college students and immigrants- who I would take any day over rich kids.
 
OK, so are you telling us that Julie and Sarah have the ability to raise private funds to build a practice facility ? I'm sure that you won't answer that question for obvious reasons.

if JH has the ability to generate private funding for a practice facility then why did she set expectations with the Court Club that they should expect to wait ten years to see B1G type facilities ? More crickets from you again.
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the fact is they are going to try which is more than Uncle Bob when it came to actually both sports. They are just about as qualified as any and certainly better than those that preceded them.
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Didn't answer either question. Check.

interesting that you think that JH is as qualified as any AD out there and is better than Bob Mulcahy was as RU AD.

OK, so other than reworking FB parking on the Busch campus what has she accomplished as RU AD ?
 
fundraising is a different beast, you don't need someone with an athletic department background, you need to be already connected to your possible donor pool, you are not going to "learn to be connected"
 
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