Kudos to Jon Stewart for Ripping Congress on Bailing on 9/11 Survivors

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  1. Knight Shift

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    The should be ashamed of themselves. Losers and a bunch of pussies. Vote every single last one of them out- Republicans, Democrats and Independents.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jon-stewart-congress-9-11-surviors-846859/
    Jon Stewart has largely stayed out of the public eye since stepping down from The Daily Show in 2015. But he hasn’t been shy about advocating for 9/11 survivors and first responders, many of whom are still stick and injured nearly 20 years after the terror attack. On Tuesday, Stewart testified before the House Judiciary Committee during a hearing on reauthorizing the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund.

    He tore Congress a new one.

    “As I sit here today, I can’t help but think what an incredible metaphor this room is for the entire process of getting health care and benefits for 9/11 first responders has come to,” he began. “Behind me, a filled room of 9/11 first responders, and in front of me, a nearly empty Congress. Sick and dying, they brought themselves down here to speak — to no one. Shameful. It’s an embarrassment to the country and it’s a shame on this institution.”

    Battling back tears, Stewart spoke for nearly 10 minutes. “It would be one thing if their callous indifference and rank hypocrisy were benign, but it’s not,” Stewart said. “Your indifference costs these men and women their most valuable commodity: time. It’s the one thing they’re running out of.”

    “They responded in five seconds,” Stewart concluded. “They did their jobs, with courage, grace, tenacity, humility. Eighteen years later — do yours! Thank you.”

    He received a standing ovation.

     
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    Not impressed. We'll have another 9-11 clean-up if Dems dont stop giving unknown criminals unrestricted access and "sanctuary."

    I'll never forget Bloomberg advising illegals to avoid border crossings and just overstay visas. Of course 9-11 hijackers had visa violators
     
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    for once I agree with Stewart. Its terrible their treatment and when you juxtapose it with how they want to aid illegals it just makes your head explode
     
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    Jon Stewart is the Man.
    He showed his character on the Daily Show nightly. I still miss him.
     
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    Will need to come back to this post when Cocaine Mitch refuses to let this bill on the Senate floor after it passes the House with a handful of GOP votes, mostly all from NY and Chris Smith.
     
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    I also understand it's McConnell who has consistently refused to bring it before the senate but this should be above politics.

    If there's any humanity left in DC they need to get this done
     
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    There won’t be humanity in DC until this crop of Republicans is gone.
     
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    but at least we have Kavanaugh
     
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    Wow, you are all over the place. I guess somehow he has something to do with long overdue benefits to 9/11 responders but I can't see it.
     
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    Be careful what you wish for.

    Dems should have taken Kav out. He's not who a lot of conservatives think he is
     
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    no its a response to sad Diddy and his continuous putdowns of the Republican party

    and yes Turtle is an idiot for not getting this done

    I love that Stewart praises the Trump administration specifically
     
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    So true
     
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    It’s a check I hope I never need to cash.
     
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    Don't you mean ALL Republicans? That's truly what the left wants because they're intolerant to all viewpoints that differ from their own, it's the Socialist plan after all because they know Socialism is not built to co-exist with anything but itself.

    We should be scared to death if this country is ever all liberal or conservative, not embrace it.
     
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    Ronnie, take care of yourself and turn off the TV. You just responded to my post, misrepresented it, argued against it, incoherently, fired off Fox talking points and unmiraculousy, drew the praise or VK for that incoherent stream of consciousness.

    Now. I don’t think you or anyone who drops “socialism” so cavalierly knows the distinction between “socialism”, “communism”, “authoritarianism” and “totalitarianism” - though I have no doubt the more ambitious of you will look it up.

    To be honest, most of you folks who cry about it can’t handle capitalism either. “Let’s be capitalist - but let’s also block immigrants, because they’ll outwork us and let’s also order companies how to operate, because else they’ll find harder working people who will work for less pay, oh and free trade, no way. And let’s also vote for a talentless, overweight grifter, someone who talks a big game but will fold like tent in a breeze, he’s one of us”.

    You guys want markets without competition. Borrowing without debt. You’re a bunch of mallomars. Squishy in the middle.
     
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    No one wants to get rid of conservatives.

    The Republican Party has as much to do with conservatism as Kyle Flood does with winning the Big 10.

    The Republican Party is amalgam of
    1) 1%ers who want to pay no taxes and abuse the environment
    2) NRA and its small group of deranged followers who want no gun restrictions
    3) Advocates for the Christian iteration of Sharia Law
    4) People who want to wage war to generate profits or gin up #3

    That's a very small minority of the country, no more than 1/3. What Deranged Don did was bring in #5. The bigots. Always aligned with the GOP since the Civil Rights Act, but now have a megaphone to blame everyone but themselves for their life station.

    And then you have the small minority of Americans, who through propaganda on Fox or their "religious leaders", believe 1-5 helps them, when it fact, destroys their jobs, health and can literally kill them.

    Do I want to be rid of that? Most Americans do.
     
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    Dude, tell me one more time I watch Fox News or that I'm firing off talking points and I'm going to put you on ****ing ignore, I don't insult your intelligence, stop insulting mine, you ****ing prick.
     
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    Nice tirade but that's not what he said.

    This crop of Republicans are not conservatives. We would all do good with a mix of conservative and progressive leaders in congress that are more interested in their ideals and not their political party.
     
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    Honestly, as a guy who always thought all Republicans were douche bags, I gotta admit that I've found a number of them surprisingly human and possessing something called integrity. Steve Schmidt, David Frum. David Jolly, Nicole Wallace, Michael Steele, William Kristol, Rick Wilson, Charlie Sykes, Jennifer Rubin and a few others have spoken out in opposition to the Liar-In-Chief in ways that have shown surprising character. Who knew ?
     
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    Exactly- I may not agree with them. But at least they have values.

    I always say, I'm cool with conservatives. It's Republicans- who aren't big government non-conservatives- who are the problem.
     
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    And I answered him correctly, my point (and not a tirade) is to liberals (not all and maybe I should have said liberal-socialists) there are no good Republicans, no matter who is in office for the GOP they will be vilified for just having the "R" after their name and would rather have none in DC and I have good reason to believe in that, if these libs are pushing for a Socialist America, for that to happen you would have to kill Capitalist America, Socialism doesn't play well with others, its one or the other, you can't have both.

    Here is an example:

    Socialists believe that if you work somewhere, you should have a say it in how it’s run. Through unions, worker councils and elected boards, this is possible at the company level today. Furthermore, if your labor generates profit, under socialism you would have an ownership stake and a democratic say in how your workplace is run.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/03/what-would-a-socialist-america-look-like-219626

    They want companies to bear all the risks, all the loses if a company fails, but if it succeeds then they need to give up control and profits. That's not capitalism and I can't fathom how it and socialism can exist so one would have to go and if its capitalism and you know that will never happen as long as their is GOP in the House and Senate. So they all gotta go too.
     
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    You can find extremism anywhere. Wake up because most liberals do not want socialism. However, there are many great socialist programs that make the USA great. Things like Social Security and Medicare to start.
     
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    No one is advocating for all out socialism. But, since that's been a Republican talking point for years, you've become a parrot.
    To their credit, that's what Republicans are good at. Come up with a lie. Have ALL members of the party repeat the lie.
    Democrats need to start doing this, except for the lying part.
     
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    Not for having the R after their name, but for what that R stands for
     
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    It's always been a question of how much socialism in this country...not EITHER Capitalism or Socialism.
    But Republicans like to use the word to scare the easily-scared and poorly-educated.
    Sad.
     
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    What do you think of Social Security and Medicare?
     
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    LOL yeah.

    Socialism kills capitalism.

    This was posted on the board of a state university.

    Just look at how Sweden has no capitalism. I mean, Ikea, Absolut, H&M, Volvo...from a country with less people than many states.
     
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    If you’re looking to McConnell and the shameless, ball-less, morally bankrupt Republican Party for humanity, you couldn’t have been paying attention for the past 3 years, at least.
     
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    RINO’s!! Never Trumpers! TDS! The brain dead sycophants rationalization for people who put the rule of law, the Constitution, and common decency above the leader of the cult.
     
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    Lol, like I'm going to listen to you, an intolerant nobody who has never shared a unbiased opinion in his life, keep moving.
     
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    I believe the issue has to do with who should be included in the fund. Apparently there are many that were not first responders looking for $$. I heard there are college/university students attempting to collect. Like everything else, it is not as clear cut as Stewart would have you believe
     
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    I couldn't tell you since I have had neither and I doubt I will see the first one, but that's not what the liberal-socialists want, they want across the board Socialist programs and having small elements of Socialist programs doesn't make us a Socialist country just like TGIFs serving pasta make them an Italian restaurant.

    And if programs work and better this country, I don't care what that are or where they come from, as they as they work.

    But Socialism won't work for us and quite frankly I don't know if us going Socialist is a good thing for the World community. I mean the left says diverse this, diverse that but when it comes to politics that's where the diversity ends with them, all of a sudden it's not important that this planet have diverse political ideologies, it needs to be all one color - Left.
     
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    I mean think about it, if we go full tilt left, what percentage of the countries that are left that aren't full tilt left?
     
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    That’s an easily fixable administrative issue. Fix it, don’t use the all Muslims are terrorist approach so ban them all.
     
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    Lol, this assclown calling me a parrot, do you realize YOU just parroted what the left says about left?

    Look, you have two roads you can go down here 1) be a typical liberal who resorts to insults and cheapshots like kbee3 or 2) be an adult and have a genuine conversation like I've been having with oncampus, because frankly there are too many 1's in here.
     
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    I'd like to have a genuine conversation. Let me know when you learn the difference between democratic socialism and soviet era communism. I'll give you a hint.....they're not the same.
     
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    Where did I mention soviet era communism? Or communism? I'll give you a hint - I didn't.
     
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    You clearly didn’t read the sentence correctly as the word “current” should have made it clear who/what I was referring to.

    Now to address your stream of consciousness...

    Was it intolerant left that drove the actual conservatives (hud, 4real, Frida, etc) out of here, or was it the tolerant right?

    Frankly, most of us “lefties” enjoyed reading what they had to say - and with them the dialogue was a lot smarter. I’d be happy to debate the role of government with principled conservatives, and I think most of us who have IQs miss their intelligence and grammar (I’ve read 4Reals post on mitigating gun violence at least 10x).

    I usually assume anyone who pedantically uses the phrase “intolerant left” to be a Fox News viewer, mostly because it’s inaccurate, overly simple and dumb. The fact is, I’m probably somewhere on the political spectrum between the aforementioned conservatives and the most liberal on here (Not, 100 and Kbee) and those 3 almost certainly have differences. Like mild, I tend to focus on issues and challenges, prioritize them and then determine which solution I believe is best, based upon life experience, education, current events, morals, empathy and an awareness of where my needs rank relative to those of society and where I stand relative to others (I’m on the very fortunate side).

    For example, I don’t love paying the ACA income tax...but I’m incredibly fortunate enough to be at an income level where I have to pay it. I’d rather be in my current position than in the position of needing Medicaid to keep my kids healthy. That position is based upon life experience (having grown up low middle class or poor or sleeping on couches), recalling my parents asking me not to play hockey with my friends because an injury would have been catastrophic) and morality (unless you think greed is moral) and empathy. I dropped a grand on brakes and shocks for my audi this week and my only concern was how many Amex points Id get from the transaction. I didn’t have to stress or decide which kid would have to wait for braces, or which activity they’d have to give up, or how many hours of OT it would take to make it work, like millions of other American parents would. When my parents died, I cut a check for the services. I didn’t have to start a go fund me to help with burial expenses like thousands of other families do.

    So yeah, I’m one of the incredibly fortunate ones. Sure, there’s plenty of people doing better than me, but way way way more who aren’t. If I need to chip in a few more percentage points in taxes to keep them off the street when they get old, I think that’s my responsibility as an American. When i finally get around to getting married, I won’t have to worry about some ambitious clerk deciding I shouldn’t (though she’s probably right...at least about me).

    The difference between me and the rest of the “intolerant left” and the current crop of Republicans is that I care about the wellbeing of people that I know and of those that I don’t know. They don’t.
     
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