Lavin out at St Johns
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interesting..what is Fatso saying about this. This one could have gone either way. While he took them to the NCAA tourney a couple of times, SJU certainly didn't wow the world under his tenure and a lot of disappoint. I still think that St Johns is not realisitic about their place in college basketball. This isn't the 80s and the old Big East is gone. I assume someone like Mullin or Jackson may be in line or another ex SJU player.
This post was edited on 3/27 2:50 PM by bac2therac
This post was edited on 3/27 2:50 PM by bac2therac
I do not think Bobby is ready for such a high pressure job like st johns....this is not De Paul or Rutgers. .Bobby would be expected to win right away
This may seem crazy, but if I am Julie I am on the phone with his agent to see if he (Lavin) has any interest in a highly compensated (500k+) assistant position. My guess he would likely want to take the normal route (take a couple years off before taking a lower profile HC position somewhere else)...but its worth a shot.
Marc Jackson would be a good candidate...
But St John's is not a top program anymore...even after reaching the tourney they fire it appears...they need to know their place...
But St John's is not a top program anymore...even after reaching the tourney they fire it appears...they need to know their place...
Maybe Keady could come in here as an assistant coach?.....kind of like the Fridge hire was for football.
Is it just me or does St John's delusional?????
I mean shit man. Would you go play some huge state school with a great campus and student life or for a commuter school in a decaying conference?
Give it time, the SEC is making a push to be finally relevant in BBall.
I mean shit man. Would you go play some huge state school with a great campus and student life or for a commuter school in a decaying conference?
Give it time, the SEC is making a push to be finally relevant in BBall.
The expectations might be unrealistic but St.Johns just fired a head coach that got the team to a NCAA bid.What the decision makers have said is that the program should be better with the talent that has been recruited under Lavin's tenure.
In contrast the expectations at Rutgers are very low and losing is a acceptable state as seen the last two decades.Who would want to coach at Rutgers where there is no sense of urgency to change the status quo?
In contrast the expectations at Rutgers are very low and losing is a acceptable state as seen the last two decades.Who would want to coach at Rutgers where there is no sense of urgency to change the status quo?
Somebody asked Fatso yesterday about Lavin and he indicated he wasn't nearly as plugged in to SJU as he used to be. Apparently, he doesn't know the new President like he knew the old one.
He was responding to a question about the report that Lavin was extended.
Fast forward to this morning and Kim Jones was sitting in for Joe and Evan. She had on Jon Rothstein. He said that the Lavin reports of an extension were premature. Low and behold, he was let go.
He was responding to a question about the report that Lavin was extended.
Fast forward to this morning and Kim Jones was sitting in for Joe and Evan. She had on Jon Rothstein. He said that the Lavin reports of an extension were premature. Low and behold, he was let go.
lol...I don't think so, he struggled with his own players getting to the dance. They underachieved with the talent he brought including some poor character kids. Maybe if he was hired after Waters but the whole is way too deep now for someone like Lavin whose best days are behind him
I wonder if he had any assistants on his staff worth a look? I know his recruiting for next year absent one kid was not as good as prior years but they were in it for Briscoe more than we were. Wasn't Mo Hicks on that staff at one point? Never liked how some of his kids carried themselves on the court but things are getting desperate around here.
Looks like St Johns is going after their alum, Mullin first.
St Johns alums (and some of their non-alumni downtown fan base) seemed to give up on the team lately...as St Johns was 2nd to last in Big East Attendance this year, even after playing 10 games at MSG.
Plus, seeing how they also went 0-4 on their MSG "home court" in the last 4 Big East Conf Tourn...time was right for a change...and Lavin can go back to being a highly paid analyst/color guy working 4 months at ESPN (or now FOX Sports/CBS Sports) like he did for almost 7 years before he was hired by St Johns.
Fair point...but remember, Lavin had a chance to coach/recruit in Westwood...then he had a chance to coach/recruit to MSG in Manhattan (they still play majority of their home games there, et alone conf tourn there)....not sure he would be able to do as well (or even close to it) if he had to coach/recruit to Piscataway/RAC.
No doubt his former locations did help him to attract some top talent (some blame his coaching for not maxing out to his talent level)...but one has no clue how he can recruit if he didn't have rich carrots like that to entice the young guns to go somewhere else.
Every program has its selling points and yes, if i was recruiting to St Johns, the garden would be my big selling point. yes, the facilities at RU are substandard, but there is a lot to sell about RU. It's location, what a degree from RU means, downtown NB, an on campus arena that was once a house of horrors for opponents and could be again. The Hale Center which all athletes can utilize. Hell, even the golf course is a selling point. Stuff Yer Face, the grease trucks. jersey girls. the jersey shore,, AC boardwalk. an hour to philly, an hour to NYC. Games against Michiga, Ohio State, Penn State et al. The Big Ten network. it's not a catholic school. Chicago for Big Ten tourney. imstead of harping on what we dont have, sell what you do. Lavin is a hell of a salesman and thats what we need.
Lavin might be thinking ASU
Here's an article about that and in it, this:
>"Does Lavin fit at ASU?In some ways, yes. He has the
personality to sell the program. He has had recruiting success, signing
the nation's No. 3 class (according to Rivals) in 2011. Having coached
at UCLA from 1996-2003, he also has strong ties to the West,
particularly within the California AAU scene. In seven years with the
Bruins, Lavin went to five Sweet 16s, including the 1997 Elite Eight."<
Source: Steve Lavin has strong interest in ASU job
Interesting. -Knew there were rumors of Lavin being on shaky ground; clearly they were on the money.
Mullin is probably their absolute #1 candidate, but Danny Hurley sure wouldn't be a bad choice either.
This post was edited on 3/28 8:11 PM by devoted2ru
Mullin is probably their absolute #1 candidate, but Danny Hurley sure wouldn't be a bad choice either.
This post was edited on 3/28 8:11 PM by devoted2ru
It's Chris' job right now if he wants it. I think it will be him. I think they just want to finalize staff as well. At least one key staff member is in the NCAA's still.
If for any reason Chris says no or something fall thru Danny Hurley gets the call and he will say yes. It won't get past him.
This should be done by Monday either way.
If for any reason Chris says no or something fall thru Danny Hurley gets the call and he will say yes. It won't get past him.
This should be done by Monday either way.
I don't know that that means. "If he doesn't get what he wants" or "If he doesn't think this."
He will take the job. Period. They have already done their homework. They have talked to him and his father and if Chris Mullin says no he has 1 bag packed already/
That is all I am going to say. Not sure why you are so interested in what it will take for SJU to sign him as if you know if SJU wouldn't do enough.
He will take the job. Period. They have already done their homework. They have talked to him and his father and if Chris Mullin says no he has 1 bag packed already/
That is all I am going to say. Not sure why you are so interested in what it will take for SJU to sign him as if you know if SJU wouldn't do enough.
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