It's about roster construction. It's a yearly game now.
Lincoln Riley Explained it Best- There is no more program building
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I guess you could call it Team infrastructure building, but to be totally honest if the players are shown the money it won’t mater how big the stadium is , they will come.
Our model is obsolete. Schiano is playing a game that has completely changed.
He's thinking analog in a digital world.
He's thinking analog in a digital world.
It's so clear Schiano isn't capable of this position by his results, his career history and his gameday logic.
With a $40 mil. yearly NIL budget behind him, Lincoln Riley is taking credit for a lot of things that have been handed to him. He's not constructing anything; he's pillaging others for their best players that others have developed.
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He coaches a system the players want to play in.
He also has as a big reason the funds that got raised did. And it’s a lot more than $40MM
He turned walk on Baker Mayfield into a Heisman finalist and NFL 1st round draft pick. He turned Jalen Hurts from an erratic game manager of a loaded Alabama team into a running and passing TD machine at Oklahoma. The man knows offense and QBs the way sugar knows ice cream. Judging from the QB coaching butchery we've seen at RU in the last several years, it's hard to believe him and the coaches RU has hired are in the same profession.
And what are you doing about it Caliknight? You run your mouth like you are the elite of the elite. Surely you can let a little go for NIL.
Would a ton of NIL money be worth it with Schiano? His teams had a tendency to play lower than their talent.
He had enough talent to beat West Virginia, Cincinnati, the Big East and never did it. He's just not a great coach.
No one thinks he’s great. Unfortunately, too many people think he’s average and he’s not even that. Not close.
Good thing he scheduled Wagner again next year to get a probable win.
Good thing he scheduled Wagner again next year to get a probable win.
His top two DB’s played for Colorado and Washington his top WR played for Pitt. His top RB came from Oregon. They came to USC for money not because he’s some QB guru.
You don’t get 26 transfers because they think he’s God playing football coach. You get them because you just spent a sh*t ton of money
Smart people make smart investments. Schiano is like investing in a questionable stock. How much are you donating Gekko?
Why are you always so triggered? Tough way to live man.
Good synopsis on why college football now sucks.
But you still need to recruit and build/rebuild the foundation. Rutgers will never out-NIL anyone so there has to be a program first.
Bill Snyder showed you can win by mining juco players but there needs to be some continuity/culture to build off of and his teams were boom or bust. Ash burned the house down (what was left after flood) thinking he could rebuild it. Tucker at MSU to me is a perfect example of what happens when you are bringing in free agents without the program culture. Hell he even copied the Chop lol. Desperate.
Riley walked into a perfect situation - oh and the program he left behind isn’t to shabby either.
Bill Snyder showed you can win by mining juco players but there needs to be some continuity/culture to build off of and his teams were boom or bust. Ash burned the house down (what was left after flood) thinking he could rebuild it. Tucker at MSU to me is a perfect example of what happens when you are bringing in free agents without the program culture. Hell he even copied the Chop lol. Desperate.
Riley walked into a perfect situation - oh and the program he left behind isn’t to shabby either.
Bill Synder never said on in this environment.
You can have your programs core values but with yearly free agency it’s far less important now. Create it every year. If you are doing this right teams will be very different every year. Program development means you are likely developing someone else’s players.
You can have your programs core values but with yearly free agency it’s far less important now. Create it every year. If you are doing this right teams will be very different every year. Program development means you are likely developing someone else’s players.
Riley can legit say he coached a bonafide NFL MVP candidate in Jalen Hurts with the Eagles right now.
You also get them because you have a track record of success and you're the head coach at a program that has a tradition of winning championships that goes back 5 decades.
USC has generally been recruiting top classes for a long time. Usually top 10ish and a good handful top 5. Only Helton’s shaky status year and Riley relying heavy on the portal last year were outliers.
I posted this tweet in the games thread. You’d think they have better results considering all this top classes dating back to 2008. The difference is the coach, at the very least Riley knows offense. Coaching matters at all levels from bigger status programs to the lower status. It can help you achieve your potential or above it or below it.
It’s not so easy to just say well they’re loaded with stars so of course they win. A number of teams are loaded with stars and don’t come close to any sort of achievement. See A&M or past USC teams as examples.
PAC12 title game is in hand and we’ll see if they can win it and get a CFP playoff berth. ND and one of Oregon, Utah, UCLA
USC is like LSU. Talent has never been the issue in either program. When they hire the right coach, they win. When they don't, the results are disappointing.
Come on. They bought and paid for 9 new starters, I'll give you the QB who followed him from Oklahoma. This isn't recruiting, this is simply outbidding everyone else to buy a winner. This isn't even the same team as a year ago.
I agree it was like 20 transfers iirc but that’s not the point I’m making. Some teams get high star recruits or a bunch of transfers but it doesn’t mean they win at a high level.
Talent acquisition alone without coaching usually doesn’t lead to fulfilling potential or better. That’s what I’m saying. It’s not a given that just because you have all that talent that you win at a high level.
Greg Schiano is a character right out of central casting as to what a college football coach should look like, talk, and act to white men over 50. And he knows it, and he plays it up for his fans, he is not a stupid and unaware man. In fact, he is very smart, he knows exactly how to sell himself to a very important segment of our fanbase and administration. He is also a dinosaur in today's college football world and every year he stays is a year wasted, but fortunately, as stated by previous posters, the nature of the game has changed so that his failures should not have an affect on the next coach's ability to attract the necessary talent for us to be competitive in the B1G.
All these people calling for a new coach I'd love to know where all the money is coming from? We don't get a full share from the B1G until 2027 as we are still paying back loans. Last year they got almost $40 mil. while others were making well into the 60's. UCLA/USC will get their full share $100 mil. in 2025, Rutgers won't get that full piece of the new contract pie.
yep, money is the digital way.
Rutgers runs on analog funding.
It's been that way for a long time, but now the NIL has exposed
the real way top programs are built.
Until Rutgers enters the digital age Schiano or anyone who replaces him will have to build the program the old fashion way and that's not even an a analog way completely, plenty of dial up programing is thrown in because full analog isn't affordable with the money the fan base gives compared to the top programs.
Hopefully those who are complaining about Greg as a HC can contribute to bringing in a quality replacement giving the new guy the funds needed to succeed.
Not put what looks like good money to some, but not good enough when you see what the top programs get from their boosers to bring in the talent and have an all around winning enviorment .
The programs dedicated to winning do not make coaching decisions based on buyouts.
Broke one's do. You seem to thing that just being in the B1G magically made that all go away. Sure when Rutgers is done paying back loans in 2027 and getting the full piece of the pie that won't be the case. But until then, they're broke.
you're right about that.
But those programs boosters aren't shy about making sure those programs have the funds not to worry.
Unless the boosters dedication includes the funds to run a winner, the AD has to worry about the funds to pay.
Our partial share would be a full share or more in the ACC, Big 12 and PAC. You make coaching decisions based on results on the field, not buyout $s. The continued losing will also affect the bottom line as far as game attendance $s, so let's not forget that fact.
Again, money bucks, where's this magical money coming from? YOU? Everyone on this board who bitches about getting a new coach sure as sh*t aren't going to pay for it.
Anyone thinking that RU can construct a roster the same way a USC or any other established power can is simply living in a fantasy world. Could RU attract one of the top QBs, WRs etc to transfer? That isn’t happening. As much as the game has changed, it still starts up front at the LOS. I watched most of the USC/UCLA game, some may think that is exciting great football. I do not. The defense by both teams was awful in the 2nd half. While these are good teams , I don’t think either is a playoff caliber team. They could not stop a legit top 5 team.
This is modern day recruiting. You either play the game or don’t win.
He came with Riley for money, and to play for Riley. Who is developing better QBs than him in the country?
SC focused on the offense. This off-season will be the defense. Even so, 10-1 with a top five ranking in year one. That’s winning.
He’s doing what most BIG coaches not named Franklin, Day or Harbaugh are doing. Even Franklin and Harbaugh took time to get to where they are they just didn’t start at the bottom. Same can be said for Lincoln.
This is the real world. If we can raise money like ATM maybe we can reconstruct like they did……
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