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It is very perplexing . We are Rutgers last I checked , so not really understanding all the negativity after a historically good season by RU standards .
We just had our greatest season in our BIG history - 4 conference wins - our most ever. A big non conference win at va tech.
We exceeded the Vegas overs on win totals for total season and conference wins . We covered the spread easily last night . If you bet on RU this year, you are a winner $$

The non CFP playoff games don’t mean much . It’s basically an exhibition . Yeah we should have won, but it’s not the end of the world.

Next year will be tough. The goal and measuring stick will be to get back to the Pinstripe Bowl . We can watch as schiano tries to be the first football coach to go 4-0 in the “new” Yankee Staidium .
That is a reasonable expectation and setting ourselves up for another great season of Rutgers football.
Enjoy what was a great 2024 season and be excited about 2025
 
Plum that big win against Va tech who finished 8th in the ACC and was 500. Or that extremely difficult Big 10 schedule Greg had to navigate. I mean we did play 2 teams with winning records and beat one. (Minn). This year was set up to give Greg and all of the blind witnesses the amno they needed for Greg to retire here.

Thankfully, Greg did what he does best. Underperform underachieve and sell ppl all the excuses they wanted to hear.

“The non CFP bowls don’t matter much” I agree plum 100%. If we both agree why are we using or caring about trying to become the first 4-0 team in the pinstripe bowl? One of the lowest of those non CFP bowls that doesn’t matter?

Let’s start next year’s Greg’s excuses!
D coordinator
Kirk C
Nil
Developmental players
Transfer portal
Too many Graduates
Schedule
Field house lol

Greg can not be fired fast enough
 
Plum that big win against Va tech who finished 8th in the ACC and was 500. Or that extremely difficult Big 10 schedule Greg had to navigate. I mean we did play 2 teams with winning records and beat one. (Minn). This year was set up to give Greg and all of the blind witnesses the amno they needed for Greg to retire here.

Thankfully, Greg did what he does best. Underperform underachieve and sell ppl all the excuses they wanted to hear.

“The non CFP bowls don’t matter much” I agree plum 100%. If we both agree why are we using or caring about trying to become the first 4-0 team in the pinstripe bowl? One of the lowest of those non CFP bowls that doesn’t matter?

Let’s start next year’s Greg’s excuses!
D coordinator
Kirk C
Nil
Developmental players
Transfer portal
Too many Graduates
Schedule
Field house lol

Greg can not be fired fast enough
He’s not getting fired anytime soon .

It would be 3-0 in the pinstripe for Greg if he can win there next year , which I think he can. It would be 4-0 at the stadium. - he won a regular season game there in 2011 (the Gary Schiano game).
 
He’s not getting fired anytime soon .

It would be 3-0 in the pinstripe for Greg if he can win there next year , which I think he can. It would be 4-0 at the stadium. - he won a regular season game there in 2011 (the Gary Schiano game).
My apologies 3-0 in a non CFP bowl that no one cares about.
 
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This is probably the most depressing thread of them all. Basically, the OP's argument is that Rutgers is such a loser program and always will be that we should just be grateful and pleased to go 7-6 and lose a nothing bowl game to a very flawed Big 12 team. The OP must moonlight on Schiano's PR staff, because his post sounds like it comes directly from Schiano's talking points. Here is an alternative reality, how about as a fan base we start to demand more out of our football program, including its coaches and the administration and not fall back on the well it's Rutgers so just be happy with mediocrity mentality pushed by many within the university.
 
This is probably the most depressing thread of them all. Basically, the OP's argument is that Rutgers is such a loser program and always will be that we should just be grateful and pleased to go 7-6 and lose a nothing bowl game to a very flawed Big 12 team. The OP must moonlight on Schiano's PR staff, because his post sounds like it comes directly from Schiano's talking points. Here is an alternative reality, how about as a fan base we start to demand more out of our football program, including its coaches and the administration and not fall back on the well it's Rutgers so just be happy with mediocrity mentality pushed by many within the university.
I definitely get it, you want to demand more . We just had our greatest season in our BIG history. Let’s at least enjoy that. No reason to complain after what was a great season for us
 
I definitely get it, you want to demand more . We just had our greatest season in our BIG history. Let’s at least enjoy that. No reason to complain after what was a great season for us
Or we played no one all season and underachieved. Then finished that year giving up a 17 point lead late in a meaning less bowl game again while being thoroughly out coached in the second half.
 
It is very perplexing . We are Rutgers last I checked , so not really understanding all the negativity after a historically good season by RU standards .
We just had our greatest season in our BIG history - 4 conference wins - our most ever. A big non conference win at va tech.
We exceeded the Vegas overs on win totals for total season and conference wins . We covered the spread easily last night . If you bet on RU this year, you are a winner $$

The non CFP playoff games don’t mean much . It’s basically an exhibition . Yeah we should have won, but it’s not the end of the world.

Next year will be tough. The goal and measuring stick will be to get back to the Pinstripe Bowl . We can watch as schiano tries to be the first football coach to go 4-0 in the “new” Yankee Staidium .
That is a reasonable expectation and setting ourselves up for another great season of Rutgers football.
Enjoy what was a great 2024 season and be excited about 2025
I thought this was a post from The Onion.
 
It is very perplexing . We are Rutgers last I checked , so not really understanding all the negativity after a historically good season by RU standards .
We just had our greatest season in our BIG history - 4 conference wins - our most ever. A big non conference win at va tech.
We exceeded the Vegas overs on win totals for total season and conference wins . We covered the spread easily last night . If you bet on RU this year, you are a winner $$

The non CFP playoff games don’t mean much . It’s basically an exhibition . Yeah we should have won, but it’s not the end of the world.

Next year will be tough. The goal and measuring stick will be to get back to the Pinstripe Bowl . We can watch as schiano tries to be the first football coach to go 4-0 in the “new” Yankee Staidium .
That is a reasonable expectation and setting ourselves up for another great season of Rutgers football.
Enjoy what was a great 2024 season and be excited about 2025
Indiana had the season we were supposed to have. Run the table on a mediocre schedule and do something special. We started 4-0 and then royally s the bed due to awful coaching and injuries.

This was not a “great” season in anyway.
 
It is very perplexing . We are Rutgers last I checked , so not really understanding all the negativity after a historically good season by RU standards .
We just had our greatest season in our BIG history - 4 conference wins - our most ever. A big non conference win at va tech.
We exceeded the Vegas overs on win totals for total season and conference wins . We covered the spread easily last night . If you bet on RU this year, you are a winner $$

The non CFP playoff games don’t mean much . It’s basically an exhibition . Yeah we should have won, but it’s not the end of the world.

Next year will be tough. The goal and measuring stick will be to get back to the Pinstripe Bowl . We can watch as schiano tries to be the first football coach to go 4-0 in the “new” Yankee Staidium .
That is a reasonable expectation and setting ourselves up for another great season of Rutgers football.
Enjoy what was a great 2024 season and be excited about 2025
Agree with most of your post except the last paragraph. When does the bar get raised for Greg and Rutgers? How long is his excuse train? Let's see:

1. Easy schedule, but we had a lot of injuries. It's OK.

2. We are a developmental program. Don't expect too much.

3. We are young. Don't expect too much.

4. We don't have enough NIL. Don't expect too much.

5. We have a lot of talent returning. The schedule is hard. Don't expect too much.

6. The caboose. Until we get a fieldhouse, don't expect too much.

Greg has mastered the art of keeping fan expectations low and satisfied.

Maybe someday our developmental program's best will be good enough when the planets align, we have a lot of NIL, experience, an easy schedule and no injuries. Until then, continue to suck up the mediocrity, because it was real bad under the last 2 coaches.

Any more cars on that train of low expectations?
 
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The reality is i have expected this school will not compete in championships for almost all sports.

Football is the epitome of mediocre where 5-7 through 7-5 seasons are the expectations and are celebrated. Sure its not Ash or Shea and that's enough for most. There may be a one in ten foray into 8-4 but 4-8 too but dont get too ruffled by either. To me its a waste to throw NIL money at something that will always have a cap.

Learned not to get too upset by the losses and no longer get giddy over the wins. After 45 years of going to games maybe I have become harden to it all.

As for hoops. Well womens hoops is completely dead. A laughingstock bottom feeder. CVS set that in motion Her last 8 years or so the program became irrelevant in the national scene. Coquese was the wrong hire on so many levels. Oh there is no President and no AD yeah she will get another year to sink the program lower. It would take a miracke worker to resuscitate this program especially in the world of NIL.

Last but not least mens hoops where we did the unbelievable by going almost 30 years without a NCAA bid only to be thwarted by covid the first time which didnt count...the 2nd time a season with no fans...well we did get another year but wound in exiting in Dayton in the last 4 in games. Unfortunately that may be the high point ceiling for the program which looks headed for its 3rd straight NCAA tourney miss even with 2 top NBA draft picks. When you try to absorb that in your brain you will realize at Rutgers success has a cap and decades of losing have made mediocrity an acheivement
 
The reality is i have expected this school will not compete in championships for almost all sports.

Football is the epitome of mediocre where 5-7 through 7-5 seasons are the expectations and are celebrated. Sure its not Ash or Shea and that's enough for most. There may be a one in ten foray into 8-4 but 4-8 too but dont get too ruffled by either. To me its a waste to throw NIL money at something that will always have a cap.

Learned not to get too upset by the losses and no longer get giddy over the wins. After 45 years of going to games maybe I have become harden to it all.

As for hoops. Well womens hoops is completely dead. A laughingstock bottom feeder. CVS set that in motion Her last 8 years or so the program became irrelevant in the national scene. Coquese was the wrong hire on so many levels. Oh there is no President and no AD yeah she will get another year to sink the program lower. It would take a miracke worker to resuscitate this program especially in the world of NIL.

Last but not least mens hoops where we did the unbelievable by going almost 30 years without a NCAA bid only to be thwarted by covid the first time which didnt count...the 2nd time a season with no fans...well we did get another year but wound in exiting in Dayton in the last 4 in games. Unfortunately that may be the high point ceiling for the program which looks headed for its 3rd straight NCAA tourney miss even with 2 top NBA draft picks. When you try to absorb that in your brain you will realize at Rutgers success has a cap and decades of losing have made mediocrity an acheivement
CVS really destroyed her once great program. Sad to see what her legacy is.
 
This is probably the most depressing thread of them all. Basically, the OP's argument is that Rutgers is such a loser program and always will be that we should just be grateful and pleased to go 7-6 and lose a nothing bowl game to a very flawed Big 12 team. The OP must moonlight on Schiano's PR staff, because his post sounds like it comes directly from Schiano's talking points. Here is an alternative reality, how about as a fan base we start to demand more out of our football program, including its coaches and the administration and not fall back on the well it's Rutgers so just be happy with mediocrity mentality pushed by many within the university.
How about we demand more from the "fans" that complain about everything from parking pricing to it took me 10 minutes to get in the stadium. They complain we need more speed, we need better D lineman, we need ...... I would love to see the total donations from posters on this forum to NIL. But it is always easier to complain then to adjust to reality where RU stands in the $$ race of college athletics.
 
Not surprising after a disappointing loss but reading this thread there seems to be a dichotomy with one side saying:

"It was a disappointing end to a solid season"

and the other saying:

"The team sucks and Schiano will never be a winner"

Well as I see it the reality is somewhere in between. A winning season that could have been a great season but for a rash of injuries and a disappointing bowl loss. Win 1 or 2 games in the 4 game disastrous stretch and we're talking 8-4 or 9-3 season. Unless you see this a future Ohio St. or Penn St. team that's a good year. And recruiting indicates that it won't be 10 years before you see that again. If that's not good enough who are you going to get to replace Schiano that will come to Rutgers?
 
For the regular season taking into account the number of injuries which was way more than typical for any team, thought Rutgers met expectations. At one point, Team was 4-4 and season was spiraling out of control. Rutgers was able to have a successful November and right the ship. If the team was fully healthy throughout the season 7-5 with the relatively easy schedule would have been a minor underachievement.

Yesterday was disappointing albeit for an exhibition game. Have no issues with the offense. Scored 41 points approximately 13 points more than the season average even with the more conservative and predictable playcalling in the second half. The defensive performance was dismal in every aspect and really difficult to watch. It's demoralizing to watch Rutgers give up 347 yards on the ground and incapable of stopping the run. Kansas State playmakers were light years faster than the Rutgers LBers and secondary personnel. 2 years ago Rutgers was a top 25 defense and hung its hat on playing the run and limiting explosive plays. During the game it occurred to me that Rutgers needs a complete revamp of the Defense which starts by bringing in a DC and recruiting/developing better athletes.
 
The reality is i have expected this school will not compete in championships for almost all sports.

Football is the epitome of mediocre where 5-7 through 7-5 seasons are the expectations and are celebrated. Sure its not Ash or Shea and that's enough for most. There may be a one in ten foray into 8-4 but 4-8 too but dont get too ruffled by either. To me its a waste to throw NIL money at something that will always have a cap.

Learned not to get too upset by the losses and no longer get giddy over the wins. After 45 years of going to games maybe I have become harden to it all.

As for hoops. Well womens hoops is completely dead. A laughingstock bottom feeder. CVS set that in motion Her last 8 years or so the program became irrelevant in the national scene. Coquese was the wrong hire on so many levels. Oh there is no President and no AD yeah she will get another year to sink the program lower. It would take a miracke worker to resuscitate this program especially in the world of NIL.

Last but not least mens hoops where we did the unbelievable by going almost 30 years without a NCAA bid only to be thwarted by covid the first time which didnt count...the 2nd time a season with no fans...well we did get another year but wound in exiting in Dayton in the last 4 in games. Unfortunately that may be the high point ceiling for the program which looks headed for its 3rd straight NCAA tourney miss even with 2 top NBA draft picks. When you try to absorb that in your brain you will realize at Rutgers success has a cap and decades of losing have made mediocrity an acheivement
Completely fair and measured response. After 45 years I applaud and thank you for the dedication and obviously heart ache you have had to endure over that time..

If you have gotten to the point where you feel we can not compete for a championship in all sports then it’s time to move on to pro sports or at least stop routing for your school.

The fan base is a huge part of our problem. We impact change and our fans continuing to create excuses, except mediocre and bad performances is infuriating.

After a disappointing season and a horrific lost you felt the need to come on here and applaud Greg for being bad at his job.

If you except all of this after 45 years then I understand but don’t agree. If you except mediocre to bad then you will get mediocre.to bad. Greg is a problem the fam base excepting his BS excuses are the bigger problem.

I hope you get to see and enjoy true RU success
 
Not surprising after a disappointing loss but reading this thread there seems to be a dichotomy with one side saying:

"It was a disappointing end to a solid season"

and the other saying:

"The team sucks and Schiano will never be a winner"

Well as I see it the reality is somewhere in between. A winning season that could have been a great season but for a rash of injuries and a disappointing bowl loss. Win 1 or 2 games in the 4 game disastrous stretch and we're talking 8-4 or 9-3 season. Unless you see this a future Ohio St. or Penn St. team that's a good year. And recruiting indicates that it won't be 10 years before you see that again. If that's not good enough who are you going to get to replace Schiano that will come to Rutgers?
Very fair and I think the right middle ground.

If we didn’t extend Greg after beating Miami with half of their team sitting out we could have had Cignetti this year and cheaper than what we paid Greg.

We could have options but Greg’s blackmail of Hobbs got him an extension he did not earn or deserve. NO one was coming for Greg. Hell, the last team that came for him fired him before he started. Why? The fan base said NO! Seems like their fans made the right decision.
 
The reality is i have expected this school will not compete in championships for almost all sports.

Football is the epitome of mediocre where 5-7 through 7-5 seasons are the expectations and are celebrated. Sure its not Ash or Shea and that's enough for most. There may be a one in ten foray into 8-4 but 4-8 too but dont get too ruffled by either. To me its a waste to throw NIL money at something that will always have a cap.

Learned not to get too upset by the losses and no longer get giddy over the wins. After 45 years of going to games maybe I have become harden to it all.

As for hoops. Well womens hoops is completely dead. A laughingstock bottom feeder. CVS set that in motion Her last 8 years or so the program became irrelevant in the national scene. Coquese was the wrong hire on so many levels. Oh there is no President and no AD yeah she will get another year to sink the program lower. It would take a miracke worker to resuscitate this program especially in the world of NIL.

Last but not least mens hoops where we did the unbelievable by going almost 30 years without a NCAA bid only to be thwarted by covid the first time which didnt count...the 2nd time a season with no fans...well we did get another year but wound in exiting in Dayton in the last 4 in games. Unfortunately that may be the high point ceiling for the program which looks headed for its 3rd straight NCAA tourney miss even with 2 top NBA draft picks. When you try to absorb that in your brain you will realize at Rutgers success has a cap and decades of losing have made mediocrity an acheivement
But CVS name is on the JMA court.
 
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Completely fair and measured response. After 45 years I applaud and thank you for the dedication and obviously heart ache you have had to endure over that time..

If you have gotten to the point where you feel we can not compete for a championship in all sports then it’s time to move on to pro sports or at least stop routing for your school.

The fan base is a huge part of our problem. We impact change and our fans continuing to create excuses, except mediocre and bad performances is infuriating.

After a disappointing season and a horrific lost you felt the need to come on here and applaud Greg for being bad at his job.

If you except all of this after 45 years then I understand but don’t agree. If you except mediocre to bad then you will get mediocre.to bad. Greg is a problem the fam base excepting his BS excuses are the bigger problem.

I hope you get to see and enjoy true RU success

Oh im not applauding anything but just pointing out because the programs were so bad mediocrity is accepted. Thats reality. Last night was a loss we hav seen before by Schiano. The inability to try to adjust to a game that shifted. Rutgers thoroughly in the drivers seat with only 21 and half minutes of game time left only to see them violently tossed lije a rag doll on both sides of the ball. All because Greg took the foot off the gas up 34-17..just a little but it was enough to give KSU life and then no on the fly adjustment to try and get his team the win on 2 possible drives to salvage the game

Incredulously i see people praising him and talking about our great offense and youth on premium. You mean the offense that looked like a Shea team for 20 minutes with a QB moving like his 2 feet were tied together and an OL who looked more interested in hitting greasy tonys up by the 4th

Now some say its meaningless which is another cope
 
Or he’s right! Schiano has reached his ceiling while playing the easiest Big ten schedule you could have.
Insert excuse here
He could be right...but I think our ceiling is more of an Iowa type program. 8-4 seasons with the occasional ranked finish.

We will never be Ohio State, Penn State or UM. But we could be Iowa or Wisconsin.
 
Agree with most of your post except the last paragraph. When does the bar get raised for Greg and Rutgers? How long is his excuse train? Let's see:

1. Easy schedule, but we had a lot of injuries. It's OK.

2. We are a developmental program. Don't expect too much.

3. We are young. Don't expect too much.

4. We don't have enough NIL. Don't expect too much.

5. We have a lot of talent returning. The schedule is hard. Don't expect too much.

6. The caboose. Until we get a fieldhouse, don't expect too much.

Greg has mastered the art of keeping fan expectations low and satisfied.

Maybe someday our developmental program's best will be good enough when the planets align, we have a lot of NIL, experience, an easy schedule and no injuries. Until then, continue to suck up the mediocrity, because it was real bad under the last 2 coaches.

Any more cars on that train of low expectations?
It’s just the reality.
 
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Greg is what he is.
I put this particular loss on the OC more then Greg. They adjusted and brought pressure and we kept doing the same things .
No wide quick throws or screens which to me seems like a obvious answer to their pressure.
I don't think Greg will ever be a great game manager, but no other coach (that we can afford ) in the world would do a better job with this program.
We just went toe to toe with a very talented team and came up a play or two short .
We have lots of young talent on offense and Greg seems to have enough loyalty built into the culture to maintain some continuity in the roster
This off season will tell us a lot
Add a tackle and some more speed on Defense and we could have something
 
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I heard GS talk abut the game and it was basically a philosophical treatise about how you work and plan and then life happens to you. A "man plans and God laughs" sort of thing..

But when you see the same problems repeating the "blame the universe" thing is thin. Kansas St knew RU was slow on the corners (KSU coach said so) and they focused attack there, It looked like Washington game where they kept making big gains on outside. Once guys got around the edge nobody was really in place.

I also dont think its 'bad luck" when teams have many injuries'. A few weeks ago Bart Scott was talking about reasons for a lot of injuries and he blamed lack of playing before season begins. Football is heavy on walkthroughs and touch. Then the contact comes and guys aren't ready for stresses of actual play. NFL camps are soft and guys dont play preseason. Then after a few games the injured lists have a dozen guys on them.

Personally I also dont like the average "meathead" S&C routines where guys lift heavy with a lot of max lifts. Flexibility needs more emphasis. Stanford reduced injuries over 70% in a few years by getting away from very heavy weights and doing more flexibility . When I see a guy maxing out with teammates cheering a boss lift I see a problem
 
The reality is i have expected this school will not compete in championships for almost all sports.

Football is the epitome of mediocre where 5-7 through 7-5 seasons are the expectations and are celebrated. Sure its not Ash or Shea and that's enough for most. There may be a one in ten foray into 8-4 but 4-8 too but dont get too ruffled by either. To me its a waste to throw NIL money at something that will always have a cap.

Learned not to get too upset by the losses and no longer get giddy over the wins. After 45 years of going to games maybe I have become harden to it all.

As for hoops. Well womens hoops is completely dead. A laughingstock bottom feeder. CVS set that in motion Her last 8 years or so the program became irrelevant in the national scene. Coquese was the wrong hire on so many levels. Oh there is no President and no AD yeah she will get another year to sink the program lower. It would take a miracke worker to resuscitate this program especially in the world of NIL.

Last but not least mens hoops where we did the unbelievable by going almost 30 years without a NCAA bid only to be thwarted by covid the first time which didnt count...the 2nd time a season with no fans...well we did get another year but wound in exiting in Dayton in the last 4 in games. Unfortunately that may be the high point ceiling for the program which looks headed for its 3rd straight NCAA tourney miss even with 2 top NBA draft picks. When you try to absorb that in your brain you will realize at Rutgers success has a cap and decades of losing have made mediocrity an acheivement
The celebration of mediocrity is maddening. Football basically did exactly what was expected of them this year. There was no huge, signature win, they did not win 8-10 games and greatly exceed expectations (while let’s remember the schedule was an easy one this year). There was nothing standout or unique to the season as they played to expectations with a 7-6 record. If they were 8-4 or 9-3 going into the bowl and then beat KSU in the bowl, then I think you would have a more positive spin towards a really good year. But this season was not that, it was ok, it was meh, it was mediocre. Were there flashes at times? Yes, absolutely, but there were too many lowlights as well (the bad 4 game losing streak, the nonexistent defense, losing games we should have won Nebraska and Illinois and KSU). We are now celebrating Greg’s career record in the Pinstripe at Yankee stadium and to make it worse, hoping we make that bowl AGAIN next season? Am I missing something or has this suddenly become a prestigious bowl?

Rutgers sports has a ceiling, no doubt, but I will never understand why many in the fanbase are content with living in a house with 6 foot ceilings. We can’t realistically aspire or expect to have 9 foot ceilings or heaven forbid a 10 or 12 foot ceiling? We settle for the 6 foot and actually celebrate it and make excuses for it while we bang our heads into the ludicrously low ceiling.
 
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The celebration of mediocrity is maddening. Football basically did exactly what was expected of them this year. There was no huge, signature win, they did not win 8-10 games and greatly exceed expectations (while let’s remember the schedule was an easy one this year). There was nothing standout or unique to the season as they played to expectations with a 7-6 record. If they were 8-4 or 9-3 going into the bowl and then beat KSU in the bowl, then I think you would have a more positive spin towards a really good year. But this season was not that, it was ok, it was meh, it was mediocre. Were there flashes at times? Yes, absolutely, but there were too many lowlights as well (the bad 4 game losing streak, the nonexistent defense, losing games we should have won Nebraska and Illinois and KSU). We are now celebrating Greg’s career record in the Pinstripe at Yankee stadium and to make it worse, hoping we make that bowl AGAIN next season? Am I missing something or has this suddenly become a prestigious bowl?

Rutgers sports has a ceiling, no doubt, but I will never understand why many in the fanbase are content with living in a house with 6 foot ceilings. We can’t realistically aspire or expect to have 9 foot ceilings or heaven forbid a 10 or 12 foot ceiling? We settle for the 6 foot and actually celebrate it and make excuses for it while we bang our heads into the ludicrously low ceiling.

Greg got effusive praise because a team on the verge of tanking its season at 4-4 won 3 out of its last 5 with the high point a win over Minnesota. You are right. There was nothing special about this season or last or any other Greg year besides 2005 and 2006 which is neari g 20 years ago
 
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How about we demand more from the "fans" that complain about everything from parking pricing to it took me 10 minutes to get in the stadium. They complain we need more speed, we need better D lineman, we need ...... I would love to see the total donations from posters on this forum to NIL. But it is always easier to complain then to adjust to reality where RU stands in the $$ race of college athletics.
You are so right!! Some posters believe they are more important than the program. They can careless if we win or lose as long as they get to post day in and day out. They will ask for change within the teams but will never open up the wallet to contribute anything. Complaining and bashing players and coaches and some do it non stop every day. What a sad sorry life to live.
 
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It’s just the reality.
Funny thing I was coming onto post a similar response. But I am coming from the opposite angle. It's not negativity. It's reality. He should not be applauded. The team played well with what they had. There were 3 in season games ( Nebraska, UCLA, Illinois) pissed away because of abysmal coaching. Now add the bowl game.

It's not negativity it's reality.
 
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