Major changes in the works for college Avenue, several buildings to be demolished and a state of the art large student center to be built

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brand new quad, student center, dining hall and academic buildings on the site of Brower and records hall … can’t wait for this project to get moving

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This center lawn with a walkway over the river would be absolutely incredible. I imagine all the buildings on the outside will be renovated or new buildings completely. We seem to be many years off from this still though. Anyone know the status and/or proposed timeline ?
 

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Anyone know which building will be built first and when construction will start? Guessing dining hall and student center so they can then tear down the existing ones?
 

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Instead of a cultural center shouldn’t that be a dorm being the river dorms would need to be knocked down for a view of the river?
 
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Anyone know which building will be built first and when construction will start? Guessing dining hall and student center so they can then tear down the existing ones?
I think the overall plan may have changed. There was talk of not demolishing the current student center, so whether they build a new one or not is up in the air. I would take that plan with a grain of salt... look at the livi or douglass section for how it has evolved as needs shifted.
 
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I think the overall plan may have changed. There was talk of not demolishing the current student center, so whether they build a new one or not is up in the air. I would take that plan with a grain of salt... look at the livi or douglass section for how it has evolved as needs shifted.
Hmmm, interesting. We need a new student center and lounge, dining hall, academic building and dorm in that quad area. Those are the 4 buildings I'd build. Any idea what will get built and when? What was done and changed at Livingston and Douglas as I don't recall? Thanks
 

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Realistically that bridge is just not going to happen. I'd rather have them build a big beautiful student union across the quad from the college Ave gym. It would be right where the river dorm is now overlooking the Raritan on the opposite side.
 
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Original 2030 plan has new dorms built where the river dorm is now.
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Realistically that bridge is just not going to happen. I'd rather have them build a big beautiful student union across the quad from the college Ave gym. It would be right where the river dorm is now overlooking the Raritan on the opposite side.
I have to believe the bridge is just artistic license and for show. It's a high cost frill that gets cut from the budget well before value engineering is my guess. It wouldn't get people to a particularly useful spot on the north side of the river.

As far as what replaces Hardenbergh, I hope they don't overdo the transit hub but still design a functional facility in that spot for the ground level while developing a new student union (as you noted) above it. Would be a strong way to anchor that end of the proposed quad.
 
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Hmmm, interesting. We need a new student center and lounge, dining hall, academic building and dorm in that quad area. Those are the 4 buildings I'd build. Any idea what will get built and when? What was done and changed at Livingston and Douglas as I don't recall? Thanks

Well, for example, the spot with the APC has included a new inn and conference center, or a research and development park.

Douglass had a planned new theater before they built NBPAC.
 

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Well, for example, the spot with the APC has included a new inn and conference center, or a research and development park.

Douglass had a planned new theater before they built NBPAC.
Indeed, master plans are about creating a vision for what could be realized but not what will necessarily happen once budgets are established, site constraints are identified, and other realities are factored in. Always have to be taken with a grain of salt.
 
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Well, for example, the spot with the APC has included a new inn and conference center, or a research and development park.

Douglass had a planned new theater before they built NBPAC.
I get that, but a hotel, conference center, and theater weren't really necessary, whereas the quad project has several buildings that are. Forget the bridge and transit hub, which should be scrapped, I'm focused on the 4 new buildings that we need in that quad--a new student center, dining hall, academic building, and dorm. I'm sure the proposed cultural center could be incorporated into the student center. Anyone know what will be built and when?
 
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I get that, but a hotel, conference center, and theater weren't really necessary, whereas the quad project has several buildings that are. Forget the bridge and transit hub, which should be scrapped, I'm focused on the 4 new buildings that we need in that quad--a new student center, dining hall, academic building, and dorm. I'm sure the proposed cultural center could be incorporated into the student center. Anyone know what will be built and when?

I just brought those up as examples of how the plan has changed over time; I do think a Hotel\Conference Center on campus would be huge for us; the university has no real space for large formal events on campus which is a consistent weakness, and the current inn and conference center on douglass is painfully small\out of date. Rutgers should absolutely have something like Ohio State's Blackwell on campus, especially as we try to compete for more conferences and concerts to take place at the RAC.

RE: college ave, as I mentioned, the new student center is up in the air because there was a movement in admin to renovate the current student center instead. Not sure where that ended up. The bridge was always a moonshot, and not sure about the transit hub, since college ave's transit is going to be a nightmare for the foreseeable future. Cultural center would be combining four separate cultural centers, some of which desperately need the upgrade, and would be opening up other spaces on campus for re-use. My guess would be that that would be the smallest of the buildings.

Dining hall will probably come first, since once it's up you can get rid of Brower. River Dorm may not even be removed, but if it is, it may not be replaced with a new large dorm in that area for two reasons; one is that you simply won't be able to replicate that amount of housing on the new quad, and other is that the plan calls for significant increases\renovations to housing on Cook and Douglass, areas with more available space and older housing. Comparably, Livingston will hopefully be getting more academic buildings, right now it is very housing heavy, which leads to the LX being a very over-utilized bus route.

As for when; it's unknown. Knocking down Records Hall was a big step, and I know they're in the process of preparing to look for formal plans for the upcoming buildings.
 
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I just brought those up as examples of how the plan has changed over time; I do think a Hotel\Conference Center on campus would be huge for us; the university has no real space for large formal events on campus which is a consistent weakness, and the current inn and conference center on douglass is painfully small\out of date. Rutgers should absolutely have something like Ohio State's Blackwell on campus, especially as we try to compete for more conferences and concerts to take place at the RAC.

RE: college ave, as I mentioned, the new student center is up in the air because there was a movement in admin to renovate the current student center instead. Not sure where that ended up. The bridge was always a moonshot, and not sure about the transit hub, since college ave's transit is going to be a nightmare for the foreseeable future. Cultural center would be combining four separate cultural centers, some of which desperately need the upgrade, and would be opening up other spaces on campus for re-use. My guess would be that that would be the smallest of the buildings.

Dining hall will probably come first, since once it's up you can get rid of Brower. River Dorm may not even be removed, but if it is, it may not be replaced with a new large dorm in that area for two reasons; one is that you simply won't be able to replicate that amount of housing on the new quad, and other is that the plan calls for significant increases\renovations to housing on Cook and Douglass, areas with more available space and older housing. Comparably, Livingston will hopefully be getting more academic buildings, right now it is very housing heavy, which leads to the LX being a very over-utilized bus route.

As for when; it's unknown. Knocking down Records Hall was a big step, and I know they're in the process of preparing to look for formal plans for the upcoming buildings.
Good point on the hotel and conference center. There's space on Livingston for that. Maybe a Devco project? @Cofifa?

Your College Ave info is pretty disappointing, if the entire quad falls apart. A new dining hall and student center should anchor that and are badly needed. The cultural center could be in 1 or both of those buildings, if needed over there. I don't see how they can knock down Hardenberg, with the enrollment increases and high demand to live on College Ave, without building another dorm tower there and adding a dorm to this quad.

Has Ford Hall been renovated or will it be asI found these designs?


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