My first calls for a new coach would be...

[BaseballFan913]

1) Bob Shoop
2) Matt Rhule (though he may be getting paid by Maryland very shortly)
3) Luke Fickell (only making $600K and has coached under Tressel and Meyer)

Look, I've defending Flood until I'm blue in the face AND getting blown out by tOSU isn't the worst thing in the world. I truly believe he did the best job he did. But these are guys who I think can do better.

 

[VW Knight]

1) Bo Pelini

 

[MozRU]

 

[ScarletNYC]

I like Fickell. He can recruit his ass off and already has some experience under his belt.

 

[BaseballFan913]

Can Pelini recruit? And can he recruit New Jersey?

I know Fickell and Shoop can.

 

[cRURah]

Hello Greg? This is Julie Herman.

 

[BaseballFan913]

Hello Greg? This is Julie Herman.

Never in a million years do I want to go back to the Schiano days.

Yes, he built the program through micromanagement. But he never got over the hump. 2007-2012 were 6 straight years of underachieving. He couldn't stop WVU's spread. What makes you think he can stop tOSU?

And then in TB, his team absolutely imploded. It's time for new blood. Let's invest in someone with promise rather than the same re-treads.

 

[rutgers4life11]

any logical list starts with schiano.

1. Schiano
2. DJ durkin
3. Matt Rhule
4. Tom Hermann
5. Justin Fuente
6. Luke Fickell
7. Scottie Montgomery

 

[Masajoje]

Schiano would be a huge mistake - very good recruiter but a mediocre at best game day coach.

 

[MoobyCow]

Schiano would be a huge mistake - very good recruiter but a mediocre at best game day coach.

I tend to agree, but if we're going to make a mistake I'd rather make a mistake with a guy who can recruit. If they ultimately fail at least you have some talent in the pipeline.

 

[VW Knight]

any logical list starts with schiano.

1. Schiano
2. DJ durkin
3. Matt Rhule
4. Tom Hermann
5. Justin Fuente
6. Luke Fickell
7. Scottie Montgomery

No. Any logical list DOES NOT start, or have to start with Schiano. For God's sake, let him go. You all act like scorned lovers, who will wait for that one person who you thought was the one, but dumped you right before prom. "Oh he loves me. He'll be back." Yet, he's moved on. Had other relationships. But in the back of your head, you're still swearing he'll be back. But it's time you MOVED ON. You had a great time together. It ended. But you've both grown and are in different places. Try someone new.

Do I appreciate what he did while he was here? Hell yes I do. But he's not some god of the gridiron. He wasn't a great game day coach. And all of you calling for him back, were probably the ones to bitch and moan about that all the time too.

TLDR: Give it up, move on, find someone new

 

[Roy_Faulker]

No on Fickell - he is constantly attacked here in Columbus.

I like Herman and think the list starts with him.

 

[rutgers4life11]

i disagree. schiano was handed a dumpster fire and made it respectable. it was going to take time and there were going to be shortcomings. I'd rather have some of heights we reached, then literally have no high expectations. think 2012 would have been the run we were all waiting for, but never came to fruition.

but you all have to keep history in perspective... right when he finally got the team over the cusp, the big east collapsed and respectability went out the window. recruiting suffered big time. under that circumstance you can't reload EVERY year... you have to build every 2-3 yrs to a great team.

one thing's for certain though, Greg put up great defenses. and he seems to have matured enough to be more open on offense. if that happens, it could be something special.

but you're not going to find many coaches that could go toe to toe with meyer, dantonio and harbaugh in one phase of the game, and schiano could in defense. I'd take that any day over an unproven coach who hasn't mastered one side of the ball.

 

[rutgers4life11]

hahaha VW knight, i offer 7 choices, and you attack as if i gave one. I'd love a new start, but unless there's another david cutcliffe waiting to be found, I just rationally do not believe we can find aomeone better than Schiano, and I am not alone by any stretch in thinking that.

 

[BaseballFan913]

any logical list starts with schiano.

1. Schiano Absolutely not. We've seen how this goes.
2. DJ durkin Possible, but there are guys ahead of him
3. Matt Rhule I'd love it, but with every win he becomes less attainable
4. Tom Hermann We cannot afford him
5. Justin Fuente He's going to So. Car. or The U so give up hope
6. Luke Fickell I'd like it
7. Scottie Montgomery I don't know anything about him so no opinion

Why isn't anyone else looking to hire Bob Shoop. Guy can recruit and he shuts offenses down.

 

[MikeR0102]

I want a guy with a background on the offensive side of things. A guy who's called plays for a high powered offense.

 

[RU MAN]

No more pro-style coaches. It's time to get rid of that. We can still be known for an aggressive defense and good special teams, but it's time to break free from the Flood/Schiano way of offensive philosophy which personally I find offensive.

Tom Herman would be an incredible get, and yes we can get him for $3 million per year.

No Matt Ruhle. What are we with that hire? Penn State part deux? No thanks.

No Bo Pelini. And god NO, no Golden. Whoever suggests Golden is clueless beyond belief.

Finally, no more defense first coaches. It's time we bring in an offensive-minded coach.

 

[Geoduck12]

Look to the MAC Babers, Campbell, Fleck,

 

[JHG722]

No more pro-style coaches. It's time to get rid of that. We can still be known for an aggressive defense and good special teams, but it's time to break free from the Flood/Schiano way of offensive philosophy which personally I find offensive.

Tom Herman would be an incredible get, and yes we can get him for $3 million per year.

No Matt Ruhle. What are we with that hire? Penn State part deux? No thanks.

No Bo Pelini. And god NO, no Golden. Whoever suggests Golden is clueless beyond belief.

Finally, no more defense first coaches. It's time we bring in an offensive-minded coach.

I don't think you realize how much Herman's buyout is. Also, it's Rhule.

 

[rutgersguy1]

I don't think you realize how much Herman's buyout is. Also, it's Rhule.

I've said Herman's buyout can be an impediment for most schools trying to hire him but it's not like you can't be creative to get around that. There's always room for negotiating around it.

McElwain had even a bigger buyout of 7M at Colorado State and Florida worked around it. They gave CSU a game in Florida which would pay them 2M. McElwain had to pay 2M and Florida paid 3M in 500K installments over 6 years.

So there are creative ways to work around it if this is the guy an AD really wants.

 

[RUinPAC10land]

I brought up his name up earlier and I am going to do it again after seeing Jim Mora's success here in southern CA. Brian Schottenheimer! He is young and coaching is in his blood! He also lived in this area before as a OC for the Jets! He should be on Julie's short list when the time comes to fire Flood! His name would definitely get attention of recruits.

 

[BuggsyRU]

1) Bob Shoop
2) Matt Rhule (though he may be getting paid by Maryland very shortly)
3) Luke Fickell (only making $600K and has coached under Tressel and Meyer)

Look, I've defending Flood until I'm blue in the face AND getting blown out by tOSU isn't the worst thing in the world. I truly believe he did the best job he did. But these are guys who I think can do better.

Bo Pelini PLEASE! PRETTY PLEASE?

 

[RU MAN]

I don't think you realize how much Herman's buyout is. Also, it's Rhule.

I do know how much his buyout is. Rutgers1 is right with regards to being creative with the buyout. If we really want him and we're willing to do what it takes, we could be in the running because of Hermann's relationships. Mullen could be another one.

 

[Roy_Faulker]

What if - and I think it's likely he will be available - Bill O'Brian is on the market??

 

[KnightHound]

Listen guys, I'm sure that several names on this list could do a good job here and get things turned around. But there are 2 things that are working against RU here.
First, the number of jobs that are avaliable this year will drive up the average salaries of theses candidates.
Second, the administration has absolutely no interest in increasing spending at any level on athletics. So unless Julie finds a few new mega donors who will finance as new coach and his staff, Flood is here for the foreseeable future.

 

[JHG722]

I do know how much his buyout is. Rutgers1 is right with regards to being creative with the buyout. If we really want him and we're willing to do what it takes, we could be in the running because of Hermann's relationships. Mullen could be another one.

I don't think the interest would be reciprocated even if you could afford the buyout. You damn well know that there are programs with openings or that are likely to have openings who can pay more, and are considered more prestigious programs.

 

[NotInRHouse]

We will not pay for Herman or Rhule. The likely candidates would likely look something like Schiano, MAC guys, and some B1Gor NFL assistants.

 

[Knight Shift]

I have never seen a thread like this before.

 

[Block R]

What if - and I think it's likely he will be available - Bill O'Brian is on the market??

I wonder how enthusiastic he would be about returning to the college ranks. And rumors are he had issues with PSU admin; would he also have issues with our dysfunctional admin?

If he had interest, it would be a great hire but I just don't see it happening.

 

[Plum Street]

I must say the Luke fickell idea is a good one . I usually have good ideas and didn't think of him . I like it

 

[BuggsyRU]

No more pro-style coaches. It's time to get rid of that. We can still be known for an aggressive defense and good special teams, but it's time to break free from the Flood/Schiano way of offensive philosophy which personally I find offensive.

Tom Herman would be an incredible get, and yes we can get him for $3 million per year.

No Matt Ruhle. What are we with that hire? Penn State part deux? No thanks.

No Bo Pelini. And god NO, no Golden. Whoever suggests Golden is clueless beyond belief.

Finally, no more defense first coaches. It's time we bring in an offensive-minded coach.

Well then, suggest some coaches already and stop attacking names if you aren't going to.

 

[brookdale-soda]

Fickle struggled as head coach and was neutered by urban Meyer when he appointed another def. coord and demoted fickel to co-def coord.

I'm not sure fickel is a slam dunk. He'd certainly be motivated to succeed though given his recent history

 

[ArminRU]

No more pro-style coaches. It's time to get rid of that. We can still be known for an aggressive defense and good special teams, but it's time to break free from the Flood/Schiano way of offensive philosophy which personally I find offensive.

Tom Herman would be an incredible get, and yes we can get him for $3 million per year.

No Matt Ruhle. What are we with that hire? Penn State part deux? No thanks.

No Bo Pelini. And god NO, no Golden. Whoever suggests Golden is clueless beyond belief.

Finally, no more defense first coaches. It's time we bring in an offensive-minded coach.

No Rhule? You're nuts

 

[GSGS]

Steve Belichick (OK, he needs about 12 more years of seasoning).

 

[BoogieKnight]

i disagree. schiano was handed a dumpster fire and made it respectable. it was going to take time and there were going to be shortcomings. I'd rather have some of heights we reached, then literally have no high expectations. think 2012 would have been the run we were all waiting for, but never came to fruition.

but you all have to keep history in perspective... right when he finally got the team over the cusp, the big east collapsed and respectability went out the window. recruiting suffered big time. under that circumstance you can't reload EVERY year... you have to build every 2-3 yrs to a great team.

one thing's for certain though, Greg put up great defenses. and he seems to have matured enough to be more open on offense. if that happens, it could be something special.

but you're not going to find many coaches that could go toe to toe with meyer, dantonio and harbaugh in one phase of the game, and schiano could in defense. I'd take that any day over an unproven coach who hasn't mastered one side of the ball.

Schiano mastered the defensive side of the ball? I'm willing to bet Rich Rodriguez and Brian Kelly would have a huge chuckle over that comment. Absolutely ludicrous.

 

[kjb32812]

I'm not sure why you guys would want Fickell.

 

[scarletKNIGHT07]

Dino Babers and the Baylor offense.

 

[BaseballFan913]

How patient would you guys be switching to a spread?

To get the players in for it, to get the system fully in place will take at least 2 years. 4/5 of this board flies off the rails after 1 loss.

 

[drewbagel423]

Schiano mastered the defensive side of the ball? I'm willing to bet Rich Rodriguez and Brian Kelly would have a huge chuckle over that comment. Absolutely ludicrous.

This. He was a good defensive coach. But against quality spread teams he was always lost.

 

[biazza38]

What if - and I think it's likely he will be available - Bill O'Brian is on the market??

I would take him in a heart beat. What is did with PSU was impressive.